NEED HELP! Pledge Smart!
 

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Yes. Its easy - report the organization for hazing and you got it.

I'd rather not tho, i care very much about the organization and we will be crossing in the next week or so. my pledge brothers and i assume its part of hell week but if we can think of a solution it will eliminate this part of the process.

Hmm.... well... just because its part of hell week doesn't make it a good thing. I'd really suggest asking why its important for you to text your pledge brothers every hour on the hour. To top it off, I'm sure no matter which organization you're joining, this kind of task carries little purpose/value - think about what you're doing and how that reflects the organization.

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Why am I sitting here trying to figure this out?

Shame on me.

Exactly. Have you spoken to your big brother or pledge class about your concerns?

I know it may seem intimidating to approach the chapter with your concerns, but if its something you don't feel good about doing, carries no purpose, costs money and makes you lose sleep, its not a good fit and really should be handled sooner than later. Trust me, I speak from experience on this part: people who experience any level of hazing who disagree with it, but continue to cross have a tendency to forget their dislike for the activity/task and end up enforcing it themselves during the next pledge process. Better to nip it in the butt now.

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k_s.. I also tried to figure it out for about 10 seconds before I came up with the solution:

Don't text them.

If they "make" you do it every 30 minutes... don't do it.

If they haze you harder or kick you out over something so incredibly stupid, they were never your brothers to begin with.

The end. Problem solved.

I am only sharing bc it took me a while to figure out that a lot of pledge "tasks" can either be solved creatively and with minimal effort, or that if you all stick together and refuse, THAT TOO is working together. If you decide to do it:

Is this for one night/day? Have all pledges sleep in same room.

Everyone goes to sleep except for one. Have that one pledge brother hold onto the phones for the first hour. He writes all the texts about 5 min before the the hour is up. One it's about 1 minute before, he hits SEND on each one.

He stays awake until about 15 minutes before the next hour, then he gives it to the next pledge and #1 can go to sleep.

#2 takes the next hour, then wakes up #3 when it's almost time for his shift. #2 then goes to sleep.

And so on. It's called teamwork.

PS I Am not condoning hazing.

If you had an iPhone, there would be an app for that.

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this simple quote makes me want to go buy an iphone now

For crying out loud:

USE THE "SEND LATER" FEATURE ON YOUR CELL PHONE. Type up a bunch of text messages and time them to be sent at whatever frequency you are supposed to send them. You and your pledge brothers have made this so much harder than it needs to be. If you would have done what I suggested in the first place, it would have taken you about 4-5 minutes to get the job done. You basically hazed yourselves.

theres no such feature on our phones and only one of us has a phone which supports an app similar to that.

I LMAOed @ that!!

Simple.

Don't do it. Deal with the consequences. If the consequences are push ups, or something aloong those lines w/e. If they start any 'physical consequences' then leave. For chapter that Haze, their justification is that there is a purpose to it. Being beaten or something along those lines is just an outlandish way of being taught something. Even push ups are a better way to go about things than physically beating you. If the beating is what you're scared of, and is a real possibility, don't worry, even if you get through this, they will find a way to beat you. And that IMO is not worht joining, no matter what.

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If "pledging smart" is the goal, then I can say that you (and possibly your pledge brothers) have failed EPICALLY. Where do I begin...

You're trying to get other folks to do the work/answer the questions for you.

You've admitted on a public message board that you were hazed/are being hazed.

I don't think I need to even try that hard to figure out where you go to school.

Basically you've shown an utter lack of discretion, you still don't have an answer to your question.

Me thinks you should be made to pledge another 11 weeks to actually learn the lessons you should have learned by now.

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this made no sense..

What exactly did they say? Word for word. Not what you interpret what they said.

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We thought exactly this but the problem is there are 5 of us, 4 of them go to one school and i, by myself, go to another but we still pledge together, are assigned tasks together, and if one of us screws up, we all get punished for it.

i cannot be with them because they are one hour away.
some of the fraternity brothers want texts every 30 min while others want it every hour. we asked them if we were to send from one phone how often would we need to text and its every 5 minutes but one of us has a auto text app so we are considering doing that but i am quite sure thats not the way we are expected to get through this and there is another solution..
i want to bring it up as hazing but i am kinda scared of the consequences of for say being dropped.. i do not want 11 weeks of hard work, blood, sweat, tears and money to go to waste. (Yes, literally blood, sweat and tears)
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The physical aspect is not a problem, push ups, log squats, flutter kicks, etc. is all mental in my mind. The consequences of not doing timestamps are essays. Each missed = 2 additional pages added on to the essay we are assigned.
Either way its not the consequences I am having difficulties with, its trying to pledge smart and figure out the solution. We are expected to pledge smart all the time.
They tell us to do 20 hits and they walk away, they WANT us to be smart and only do 5 and say we are finished (I learned this the hard way).
Im just looking to see if some bright mind who is good at mental games can figure this one out and give some advice. Consequences are not an issue, but truthfully, I'd much rather do 400 push ups then write 12 page single spaced essays.
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Dang he removed the others .....

Refuse, report, or quit.

I still had a window open with the first few posts.

I had to leave before the response so I lost what he had posted.

All this aside... I get that it's mental, but wouldn't it piss you off if you were an active getting a text every hour on the hour? I wake up every time my phone goes off, whether I want to or not.

They probably put their phones on silent and then just check it later. If they don't, these dumbasses are hazing themselves unless their ringtone gives them a boner or something.

Oh that makes sense. I just know most college students and people that age use it as an alarm clock. Sometimes alarms go off if your phone is off/silenced, sometimes they don't.

I'm late to the party here, but if the actives are giving you ridiculous things to do, and asking you to "pledge smart" and figure it out, aren't they giving you the opportunity to be SMART MEN and say NO?

What if your significant other asked you to do this because he/she wanted to know where you were every hour? Would you put up with that in a relationship? Why are you putting up with it in THIS relationship?

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Shame on you for not QFPing, now that he's removed most of his posts. His reason? "help no longer seeked."

:rolleyes:

Thanks to the others who at least got some QFPs in.