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ASTalumna06 04-26-2010 11:50 PM

Teen Suspended Over Revealing Prom Dress
 
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...dress/19425583

What got my attention was this:

Quote:

Of the 352 Oxford High students who attended the prom, officials said 18 violated the dress code. All but DeRamus chose paddling as punishment, with DeRamus opting for a three-day suspension.
Is this an accepted punishment in schools across the country? How has no one complained?

And why, if you're willing to get smacked a few times, is it then ok to wear revealing clothing to school, when it's clearly against policy?

TPA85 04-27-2010 02:01 AM

I am surprised by the paddling, also! I didn't know ANY schools still did that. :eek:

I can't really say I feel bad for the girl, though...I mean, if they were ACTUALLY notified 3 times about the dress code and she chose to violate it, then she chose to accept the consequences.

I would really like to see the non-violators dresses because I just can't picture any prom attire that is appropriate in this particular school district's standards, except something like these: http://www.latterdaybride.com/modest-prom-dresses.php (which aren't bad, but I can't imagine 334 of the 352 students going for that).


And my final thought: "What cleavage?" REALLY?? You don't see it??? :rolleyes:

KSUViolet06 04-27-2010 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1921596)
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...dress/19425583

What got my attention was this:



Is this an accepted punishment in schools across the country? How has no one complained?

And why, if you're willing to get smacked a few times, is it then ok to wear revealing clothing to school, when it's clearly against policy?

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but there are states who leave the option to use paddling up the individual school.

I believe that parents at schools who DO paddle have to sign a form in order to "opt out" of padding for their child.


BabyPiNK_FL 04-27-2010 03:53 AM

she looks a fool. i like the color though.

christiangirl 04-27-2010 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPA85 (Post 1921629)
I am surprised by the paddling, also! I didn't know ANY schools still did that. :eek:

I can't really say I feel bad for the girl, though...I mean, if they were ACTUALLY notified 3 times about the dress code and she chose to violate it, then she chose to accept the consequences.

And my final thought: "What cleavage?" REALLY?? You don't see it??? :rolleyes:

Ditto on all 3 counts, ESPECIALLY that last.

AGDee 04-27-2010 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1921596)
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...dress/19425583

What got my attention was this:



Is this an accepted punishment in schools across the country? How has no one complained?

And why, if you're willing to get smacked a few times, is it then ok to wear revealing clothing to school, when it's clearly against policy?

I'm sorry but the idea of young women bending over to be paddled in "revealing" prom dresses sounds like the beginning of a bad porno to me. Yes, these girls need to be protected, from their pervy school officials who want to paddle them in prom dresses.

DaemonSeid 04-27-2010 09:01 AM

Umm...really...you don't see how you look in that prom dress?

Both you and your mama should be paddled!!!

You're never too old to have some sense knocked into you.


But this right here...

"I was so excited because it was my senior prom and I'd never been to a senior prom," DeRamus told Alabama's WBRC-TV.

Uhh...how many you think you're supposed to go to?

twinkle555 04-27-2010 09:14 AM

Paddling? Really? Uhhh eff that I would have chose the suspension too lol!

That dress had the potential to be really nice but it is waaay too short..I think it actually makes her look prego, not a look you wanna go for for prom.

bostongreek 04-27-2010 10:06 AM

Honestly, even though it is really ugly, I don't think that dress is that scandalously revealing and the punishment (neither punishment, actually) definitely does not fit the crime. At worst, they should have been asked to leave or just to change.

That dress is downright convent-worthy compared to a lot of prom dresses out there.

AOII Angel 04-27-2010 10:12 AM

She was warned. She ignored the warning. She was punished as indicated in said warning. How is this news?

Alumiyum 04-27-2010 10:26 AM

It's an ugly dress, and it seems like both she and her parents could've respected the dress code. It's just not that hard. I mean I've had prom/formal dresses that didn't meet those standards, sure, but I've had some that did, too. And I'm not a fashionista, but I'm picky about formal dresses. They always looked expensive even though they weren't and were still "in" even if they weren't revealing.

33girl 04-27-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1921675)
I'm sorry but the idea of young women bending over to be paddled in "revealing" prom dresses sounds like the beginning of a bad porno to me. Yes, these girls need to be protected, from their pervy school officials who want to paddle them in prom dresses.

They didn't get paddled AT the prom. They got paddled later.

And yes, this is an option at some schools and parents have to specify if they don't want their children paddled. Sometimes people would rather have that and get it over with (especially if the person paddling is kind of a wuss) than have to deal with 3 days in school suspension.

D_S - at my school you could go to the prom all 3 years of HS if you wanted.

That dress could have been OK IF she bought the right size and IF it would have been the right style for her body type. She looks like a fairly tall girl and the dress is way too short for her. Lesson: DON'T BUY YOUR FREAKIN PROM DRESS ONLINE.

Kappamd 04-27-2010 11:23 AM

I was just commenting this past weekend at the mall about how skanky prom fashions have become. I thought it was interesting that 90% of the dresses were short (some of them nastily so). When I went to prom, you DID NOT wear a short dress.

Oh well, she knew the rules and ignored them. I'm sure it's a scenario that will play out a thousand times this prom season. This is not news.

1stSoon2BePhD 04-27-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1921702)
But this right here...

"I was so excited because it was my senior prom and I'd never been to a senior prom," DeRamus told Alabama's WBRC-TV.

Uhh...how many you think you're supposed to go to?

THIS.

And I love her mom's hesitation: "It woulda' stayed in that ... store ... and I wouldn't have gotten it off the internet." It was CLEARLY a bad internet buy. I hope that if they would have seen the dress on her in a store, they wouldn't have purchased it.

ETA: The REAL reason why SHE was interviewed is because she didn't want to get paddled. You don't see the other 17 girls on CNN.

christiangirl 04-27-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1921752)
D_S - at my school you could go to the prom all 3 years of HS if you wanted.

HS only lasted 3 years for the one you attended? :confused: Never heard of that!

IMO The dressly wasn't wildly inappropriate but it did violate their dress code and that's that. The girl is seeing what she wants to see. At my senior prom, my dress was floor-length and so was every dress I saw that night. It was our night to be formal and dress like grown-ups. I think maybe one girl wore a tea-length gown (I remember borrowing her flip flops) but that's it. As for cleavage, my mother made sure I was tasteful and elegant and COVERED.

AOII Angel 04-27-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1921771)
HS only lasted 3 years for the one you attended? :confused: Never heard of that!

In many places, 9th grade is still middle school. Some places actually have a separate school for 9th grade.

33girl 04-27-2010 11:57 AM

Actually, junior high is 7-9 and senior high is 10-12. Our district does not use the term "middle school." (When the new jr high was built, 6th graders were there briefly, but it didn't work out at all to have 11 year olds with 14 & 15 year olds.) Freshmen can participate in some senior high activities (band, chorus) but they are closely monitored, and not allowed to attend senior high social events.

Personally, I think it's a much better option than throwing 14 year olds into senior high social life.

AOII Angel 04-27-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1921792)
Actually, junior high is 7-9 and senior high is 10-12. Our district does not use the term "middle school." (When the new jr high was built, 6th graders were there briefly, but it didn't work out at all to have 11 year olds with 14 & 15 year olds.) Freshmen can participate in some senior high activities (band, chorus) but they are closely monitored, and not allowed to attend senior high social events.

Personally, I think it's a much better option than throwing 14 year olds into senior high social life.

I never know what to call elementary, middle school, junior high since I went to the same tiny Christian school for all of it. We even had a "High School" for three years and there were maybe 4 kids in the 9th and 10th grades at that time!:rolleyes: They painted our gym floor to say Victory Christian High School which was RIDICULOUS!

AGDee 04-27-2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1921752)
They didn't get paddled AT the prom. They got paddled later.

And yes, this is an option at some schools and parents have to specify if they don't want their children paddled. Sometimes people would rather have that and get it over with (especially if the person paddling is kind of a wuss) than have to deal with 3 days in school suspension.

D_S - at my school you could go to the prom all 3 years of HS if you wanted.

That dress could have been OK IF she bought the right size and IF it would have been the right style for her body type. She looks like a fairly tall girl and the dress is way too short for her. Lesson: DON'T BUY YOUR FREAKIN PROM DRESS ONLINE.

I guess being paddled later makes more sense and is a little less pervy. It still seems weird to me to have a grown man paddling an 18 year old adult woman.

I don't think it looks like the dress is more than 6 inches above the knee though. The neckline definitely plunges below the breast bone, but don't most dresses? The breastbone starts right below the neck. Polo shirts go below that if you have one button unbuttoned. I wonder if she thought the sheer shawl thing would count as being "covered"?

KSUViolet06 04-27-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kappamd (Post 1921759)
I was just commenting this past weekend at the mall about how skanky prom fashions have become. I thought it was interesting that 90% of the dresses were short (some of them nastily so). When I went to prom, you DID NOT wear a short dress.

Oh well, she knew the rules and ignored them. I'm sure it's a scenario that will play out a thousand times this prom season. This is not news.

I know, right? I was asking my cousin who is still in HS and she said that everyone she knows is wearing a short dress.

We NEVER wore short dresses. We had a King of Hearts dance in the winter that was a "short informal dress" occasion, but never Homecoming or Prom.

ms_gwyn 04-27-2010 03:32 PM

I have to say when I went to Prom (in 1989), my dress was short...at least to me, it was above the knee. Now my maid of honor dress for my mother's wedding in 1991...even more short. Mid-thigh....

Dress lengths go in waves...

dekeguy 04-27-2010 04:19 PM

Paddling? Good Lord, sounds like "Thank you sir, may I have another!"

BabyPiNK_FL 04-27-2010 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kappamd (Post 1921759)
I was just commenting this past weekend at the mall about how skanky prom fashions have become. I thought it was interesting that 90% of the dresses were short (some of them nastily so). When I went to prom, you DID NOT wear a short dress.

Oh well, she knew the rules and ignored them. I'm sure it's a scenario that will play out a thousand times this prom season. This is not news.

I agree. I went to prom in 2003 and even then all the girls wore fitted or puffy but LONG dresses. We knew it was formal and we dressed accordingly.

Alumiyum 04-27-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1921771)
HS only lasted 3 years for the one you attended? :confused: Never heard of that!

IMO The dressly wasn't wildly inappropriate but it did violate their dress code and that's that. The girl is seeing what she wants to see. At my senior prom, my dress was floor-length and so was every dress I saw that night. It was our night to be formal and dress like grown-ups. I think maybe one girl wore a tea-length gown (I remember borrowing her flip flops) but that's it. As for cleavage, my mother made sure I was tasteful and elegant and COVERED.

Mine is a three year high school, too. We had a junior-senior prom (sophomores could attend if they were a date of a junior or senior)...a LOT of people wore "short" dresses but I don't remember anyone with a dress so short it was inappropriate. Our prom was a little more laid back and casual than a lot of my friends' at other schools were, which is probably because there are balls/leadouts for girls in my hometown...it isn't the only occasion to dress up. Even the less formal dresses were still classy, though. I don't remember a bunch of cleavage or cut-outs in the dresses.

PeppyGPhiB 04-27-2010 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1921792)
Actually, junior high is 7-9 and senior high is 10-12. Our district does not use the term "middle school." (When the new jr high was built, 6th graders were there briefly, but it didn't work out at all to have 11 year olds with 14 & 15 year olds.) Freshmen can participate in some senior high activities (band, chorus) but they are closely monitored, and not allowed to attend senior high social events.

Personally, I think it's a much better option than throwing 14 year olds into senior high social life.

Most of the districts by me have switched to middle schools (6-8 grades) now, but the district I live in still has junior high (7-9 grades) and three-year high schools.

UGAalum94 04-27-2010 07:48 PM

It seems kind of strange to me that paddling was a option for this. Prom dress code is pretty relaxed around here, but if a girl did manage to wear something beyond the limits, I suspect that they just wouldn't let her in or would make her leave once they realized it if it was that bad.

christiangirl 04-27-2010 08:21 PM

Woooow. I've never heard of a 3 year hs. Learned something new today. :)

TPA85 04-27-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1922045)
Woooow. I've never heard of a 3 year hs. Learned something new today. :)

Same here!

ASTalumna06 04-27-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1921792)
Actually, junior high is 7-9 and senior high is 10-12. Our district does not use the term "middle school." (When the new jr high was built, 6th graders were there briefly, but it didn't work out at all to have 11 year olds with 14 & 15 year olds.) Freshmen can participate in some senior high activities (band, chorus) but they are closely monitored, and not allowed to attend senior high social events.

Personally, I think it's a much better option than throwing 14 year olds into senior high social life.

This is how my high school was. 9th grade was in the junior high, it still counted toward your high school GPA, and everything else above applied. Basically, they couldn't fit the 9th graders in the high school (with nearly 4,000 students), although, I'm not sure that was the original reason that the 9th grade wasn't included.

The school district wanted to move the 9th grade to the high school, and the original plan was to build 4 additional buildings off of the original high school (creating a small campus-like environment). Then Columbine happened, and fear set in that a huge school would.. God knows what. So the year after I graduated, they started renovations on the original high school, and built a second, where there was enough room for the 9th graders.

Personally, I liked it the way it was.

Anyway... after searching further, I've found that between 19 and 22 states allow for corporal punishment to be used in schools! (Every website I look at says a different number).

And as for the short dresses... this has definitely become more popular lately. I just always thought that prom was a long dress kind of occasion. Guess I was wrong...

knight_shadow 04-27-2010 08:59 PM

The dress looked tacky, but not "ban-worthy" in my opinion. Then again, if the rules were clearly outlined and she chose to break them, then her bad.

Another slow news day.

chickenoodle 04-27-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1921656)
she looks a fool. i like the color though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1922064)
The dress looked tacky, but not "ban-worthy" in my opinion. Then again, if the rules were clearly outlined and she chose to break them, then her bad.

Another slow news day.


I know it's been said, but damn that dress is ugly.

We had a dress code at my prom, and it was made abundantly clear that if you were dressed inappropriately, you were going to be asked to leave with no refund (or dinner). My HS held prom at a super swank hotel on South Beach and I think that encouraged the ladies to dress in classy, if expensive, dresses.

Every prom/homecoming season, someone starts bitching about how they missed their prom or homecoming because the evil school admins enforced "like, totally stupid" rules and "suppress freedom of expression."

High school girls need to learn how to dress and follow rules.

/rant

33girl 04-27-2010 10:13 PM

The fact is: if she was 5'1" and weighed 90 lbs, with no hooters or butt to speak of, this dress would have been fine. But she's not. It's all about knowing how to dress for your body type. I hope she learns that lesson somewhere along the way, instead of just being all "I'm a rebel WHOO HOO!!"


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