Kiely Williams' "Date rape anthem"
 

http://clutchmagonline.com/newsgossi...s-spectacular/

Kiely Williams (former "Cheetah Girls" star and member of the girl group 3LW) recorded this song and video, clearly glorifying blacked-out sex. After being criticized, she released this youtube video...

http://theybf.com/index.php/2010/04/...ck-activities/

...basically saying that not all songs need to have positive messages.

Then she contradicted herself in a written statement (link above) claiming "I wrote 'Spectacular' and made the video to bring attention to a serious women's health and safety issue. Don't shoot the messenger."

I'm sad to see a young woman, particularly one with a fan-base of little girls and tweens, so desperate to be seen as grown and sexy that she's willing to sing "Last I remember I was face down/Ass up, clothes off, broke off, dozed off/ Even though I'm not sure of his name/ He could get it again if he wanted"
and "What he did to me last night felt so good/ I must have been on drugs/ I hope he used a rubber/ Or I'mma be in trouble." SMH

Wow....What a stupid song
 

I just watched the video from the link you posted. Wow, what a stupid song. The video looks like it was made by a bunch of high schoolers. I wasn't sure what I was watching because you titled it "date rape anthem" but, the entire time I thought she was portraying a prostitute. One minute she is saying the sex was spectacular, while in the same breath she says that she was blacked out and didn't really remember it. What a stupid-stupid song. Is this what music is coming to?

I have to admit that I think Raven had some talent, as well as the other Cheetah Girls. It sucks because Kiely Williams is already beautiful and talented so she didn't have to resort to this. I want my last 3 minutes and 57 seconds back after watching that. Ouch!

The video and the song were both stupid, but I don't know why this turned into a "controversy" -- another slow news day.

There are several songs/videos that are risque, but if (general) you don't want to hear/see them, change the station.

This girl screamed shady to me. She had a baby (I know she mentioned it at least once!) b/t 3LW and Cheetah Girls. She got the job of Cheetah Girl and NEVER talked about her son since then. I know she wanted to pretend to be a child in their movies and all, but it's like he doesn't exist. That's just strange to me.

It's bad because so many little girls look up to her as a role model. Of course she can do what she wants, and yes there are tons of other songs like this out there, but I'm pretty sure that 95% of her fan base is compromised of young girls and she should have considered this. If she wants to break out of her Cheetah Girls mold, that's fine, but this was a totally inappropriate way for her to do it, IMO.

The controversy is about the fact that this song wasn't just risque or about casual sex, it was about being blacked out. Many people would call intercourse with a blacked out woman "rape," and such women often don't understand or won't report that they've been violated because they aren't seen as legit victims. A song and video portraying the act as "spectacular" makes it more difficult for women in that situation. (btw I didn't come up with the name "date rape anthem"-- it's what the gossip boards are calling it.)

The other issue is that her fan base is entirely middle school age and younger. Children could be exposed to anything, but they will almost certainly be exposed to this song as they are the ones who visit her website, google her, etc.

I just wasn't expecting so much ass.

I was moderately more prepared because I read the thread first, but still :eek:

And yeah, no. Her response/justification did not jive AT.ALL. with the video. The song glorifies being an unrepentant, drunken hooch; it's not trying to shine a light on the issue for the purposes of prevention. She just needs to own her drunken hooch tendencies and take the consequences of the message she put out there.

She belongs on karma's "Stupid Bitch" list.

lol--that statement is a lie.

I don't care for 3LW or Cheetah Girls. Naturi Naughton is making the most of her post 3LW days though.

I would say that this song and video glamourizes and glorifies non-consensual sex (rape), which is horrible.

What's a Cheeta Girl?

3LW was a crappy girl band that was popular when I was in the sixth grade, then they disbanded, and two of them went on to be Cheetah Girls which were characters in a Disney movie series based off of the Cheetah Girls book series.

All this time I refused to watch this video because I didn't want to give it hits, but I just now watched it and OMG. She deserves to be slapped.

And was the guy supposed to be cute? And most importantly, did I really need to see his pale butt?? :eek:

Kinda like the pussycat dolls?

Not really. The pussycat dolls is a burlesque group or started out that way. The cheeta girls were a pure girl group. They were invented for a disney movie, but ended up being popular and even touring a bit. And I didn't know about the books.

Ah, kinda like Spinal Tap and the Monkeys.

Such a bad song, I can't imagine why anyone would care?

Cheetah Girls is a popular children's novel series about 4-5 black/mixed-black girls in early middle school who sang in a singing group that were MUCH younger than Disney made them out to be in the films. They were not created by Disney.

That's interesting. I knew there were books, but the books I've seen came after the Disney Cheetah Girls, because the pictures on the cover would be of Adrienne, Raven, Keily and Sabrina. Keily was always my least favorite Cheetah and my least favorite 'LW.' lol

Cheetah Girls just sounds like a stripper group/club. Burlesque is an art form, and the PussyCat Dolls, well, not very true to burlesque with that reality show.

Y'all do know she's not really a Cheetah girl in real life right? lol. Some people are out here mad like she broke the girl scout oath and the cheetah girl code of conduct. lol.
She's grown so expecting her to cater to the cheetah girl/3LW age group isnt realistic. And any fan who remembers her from 3LW is old enough to watch this video. I think thats one of the reasons she did this song & video. To get out of that innocent, never had sex, good girl image she once had.

Though I can't relate to getting messed up in the club and having a one night stand I enjoyed so immensely that I'd want to do the guy again there are a considerable number of women/men who can. Drunk sex is very common. Drunk one night stands are also very common. If this video was marketed toward kids I'd have more of a problem with it. As it is I'm not really mad at it. I actually liked it. I found the song socially relevant, but a little too Paula Abdul-in-the-80's ish. The artistry of the video was hot though(minus the pale ass). It sounds like what I'd expect a woman who's just had a great one night stand to say. I dont remeber people being this up in arms about the movie Knocked Up.

Doesn't she have a child? LOL

Idk,mybffphil. I dont follow her life like that to know, but even if she has a munchkin that apparently hasnt changed her public "good girl" image if peeps are mad b/c they think she has a "young girl" following.

Were people this mad at Solonge's song T.O.N.Y (The.Other.Night.Y)?
ETA: Though if she does have a kid now we can give a good guess as to how she ended up knocked up. lol.

It is silly and yet to be expected that folks feel that the way to show that they have grown up is by talking about all of the sex they have had; particularly when that sex is with virtual strangers under the influence of drugs or alcohol (rather the height of immaturity considering all of the ways to talk about or think about sex, at least in my mind).

I don't know this Solange song, but if it is anything like this one, it is probably pretty stupid too.

Waaaaaiiit a minute, I kinda liked that song. Tony is an acronym? What does that mean? I think I may have misunderstood the entire thing.

*looking up lyrics*

ETA: Congratulate me. I just learned something.

I used to sit in B & N and read them LONG before Disney ever heard of them. I can confirm that the books were prior to the films and the girls looked nothing like in the films.

I'm pretty sure, as I mentioned earlier, that she has a son. I am also VERY certain it was before Cheetah Girls.

ETA: I LOVE T.O.N.Y. and I didn't really pay attention the the lyrics, but it's not as vulgar if it is the same situation. I was under the impression it was more of a love song "Tony don't call me no more", etc.

2: Sorry for the double post.

You know, I just looked her up on Wiki and this song isn't mentioned ANYWHERE in the discography. :confused:

BTW: Her son's not mentioned either, but I do believe she did have one before Cheetah days.

Oooh I might have to check them out and see if they are good to enter into my mini classroom library (for that future class I hope to get! lol). I'm always looking for good books.

Eh. Its all in how you take it. Being irresponsible is a part of growing up. I think the point was to go far out there and not just talk about sex, making love or anything nice. Thats why she was on the whole "not every story is a good one" spiel on youtube. Sometimes the story is like this one. I kind of like that she didnt do the whole im soft and danity and a lady and Ive grown up (think: Brittany Spears "not a girl not a woman" and then being a sex slave). She went there to say Im grown, I party, I drink, I have amazing sex, I feel shame about the stupid mistakes, but Im me and Im cool with it. She didnt feel the need to shy away from the topic and be demure. She straight up said I had a drunk one night stand that I dont totally remember but damn it was good.

So, what you are saying is...it's stupid. Ok, gotcha. :)

Actually those songs were both on the same CD and "I'm a Slave 4 U" was released before "I'm Not a Girl"...so technically she was a slave first.

Like I said I didn't even know about the books before today. And wasn't one of the Disney ones white IIRC?

Yes, in the movie (I'm not quite certain what IIRC means) one of the characters is made white. In the books ALL of the characters are black, black and white/Italian, black-hispanic, etc. The point of the book was a book black girls could see themselves reflected in as there was not a lot of literature in the mainstream aimed at that demographic. Disney saw fit to tamper with the characters because God forbid there was not a white girl (although they never make it clear, at least not to me, but I believe she's supposed to be mixed-latina). I'm also pretty sure they cut one girl/character out, but not 100%.

ETA: They DID cut a Cheetah Girl from the film

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Che..._(novel_series)

They cut Raven, who was a faux-Cheetah anyway. :rolleyes:

IIRC=If I Remember Correctly

You misunderstand me. In the novels there are 5 girls. In the first movie there are only 4. Hence a girl was "cut". Later on for the 3rd film Raven is cut because she no longer wanted to participate but I was not referring to her absence.

hey watch my vid lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4YeeREnlj4

Aaaaaaah gotcha. :cool:

Soooo I saw this video on youtube and the problem with this video isn't that it portrayed something that sadly is the typical night for some young women. The problem is that she did it in a manner that appeared to be condoning, it making it seem like acceptable behavior! If the song would have had a message of regret or showed some of the the self esteem problems, stds, unplanned pregnancies, and all those other things most overly promiscuous behavior will get you that would have been one thing. But she just did a skanky video with a smile on her face and all she could say was "I was so drunk, I don't even know this guy's name or if he used protection. But the sex was spectacular and I'd do it again!"

Next rant: Whyyyyy was it so low budget?! It looked like it was filmed on an old raggedy 3 mega pixel digital camera! And the guy was ugly!

Ahhhhh....you just gotta love all the wholesomeness that Disney has cranked out over the years, hm?