Is it true that most Greek men are gay ?
 

Rumours have it that they are ... is there any truth to this stereotype ?

Because you appear to be from Angola, I will cut you some slack and answer your question nicely.

No, most greek/fraternity men are not gay. Are their gay men in fraternities? Yes there are some.

If you are asking that most men from Greece are gay, then I would also say no, most men from Greece are not gay, but yes there are some.

He's probably asking about guys from Greece.

Be careful in the Mediterian.

I haven't heard that stereotype in a very long time, but I did used to hear all the time that men from Greece were usually gay. Weird.

I've never heard that stereotype, atleast not for modern times. I do recall reading about ancient Greek & Roman history that having relationships with both men and women were not uncommon and was accepted as part of the culture of the time.

My high school Latin class got a 45 minute lecture on the subject and how homosexuality didnt concern them (the Ancients) after a classmate asked the teacher what the Latin word was for "faggot." Also included in that lecture was how politically incorrect it was to use the word, "faggot."

Incorrect ... homosexuality was seen as superior to heterosexuality and not as equal ... basically male homosexuality was the best , heterosexuality second best and female homosexuality the third one in place

Where did you hear this ? I heard this from forums , websites , articles and so forth that Greek men are gay ( as in homosexuality was superior in Ancient Greece and to a lesser extent Ancient Rome )

That's why I am even asking this

I'm a she ;)

The first time sexuality came into place in this discussion was when I thought Greek men were kinda hot ... I found out in an article later that Ancient Greece was ripped with homosexuality and so here I am

Thinking and deliberating how many of them are gay

Well this site isn't about Greek people who lived in/are from Greece, so please run along and play now.

Meany :(

Not a meany, just telling you that this is a site about fraternities and sororities, aka Greeks, NOT Greece! We don't know many REAL Greeks, therefore, aren't experts in the sexuality of their men. As a physician, however, I can tell you that in the general population, homosexuality is under 10% so the likelihood that ALL Greek men are gay is poor. Also, considering that ancient Greeks were polythiests and modern Greeks are overwhelmingly Greek Orthodox, which don't approve of homosexuality, I doubt that there is a general societal "homosexuality is best" mentality. Now, like 33girl said, run along!

:) I'm not sure what being a physician has to do with it, but I don't trust any attempts (not yours, but in general) to throw a percentage on the homosexuality in the general popualation. "Under 10%" is most likely underreported and based on a poor conceptualization of "homosexuality" and data sources.

I think that it is pretty good estimation, in fact. I think that homosexuality, when not just experimentation but true homosexuality, is a genetic/programmed/born with (however you want to phrase it since we haven't discovered the exact cause yet) trait and not a choice. I threw in as a physician, because I was pointing out my thoughts from a medical and not a religious or societal viewpoint. That percentage is fairly consistent across many studies. If you choose to disagree, that may be your choice, but I choose to disagree with you.

Depending on how you define homosexuality (perhaps as totally and only for the same sex), it would be non-sensical to say that most Greeks are homosexual...as they probably would have a completely depopulated country, perhaps.

Just throwing that out there.

This is bit of an overbroad statement, too. At least in classical Greek culture, sexual relations between adult males was often considered inferior. It's true that some male-male relationships were considered superior to male-female merely because males were considered superior to females. But in general, it was the older male-younger male relationship that was approved of, and not always even then.

A major problem arises in using a modern social constructs like "homosexuality" or "heterosexuality" and applying them to cultures that recognized quite different constructs.

Yeah, there wasn't anything as a "homosexual" or a "gay person" until Freud told people there was.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I'd just say that modern understandings and assumptions about sexuality do not necessarily mirror ancient understandings, and confusion is bound to happen if we try to simply impose modern understandings on ancient people without some consideration of the differences.

Uh...ok. Thanks, you now have the choice to read my response or ignore it. :)

I am also not speaking based on a religious and moral standpoint. I am speaking based on the subjectivity of research (across disciplines) and the inability of researchers (across disciplines) to adequately conceptualize and operationalize "homosexuality." Studies have yet to close the debate regarding whether homosexuality is genetic, choice, or a combination. Moreover, sexuality and sexual orientation are social as well as biological, which is partly why the medical field has yet to reliably address whether someone is homosexual based on thoughts and desires or outward manifestations/behaviors. How to capture either in research is a daunting task and I'm sure the research that you're talking about addresses the limitations of drawing conclusions from the data.

In other words, don't necessarily run around saying homosexuals comprise less than 10% of the population without acknowledging the context in which those conclusions were drawn.

With so many people who choose to keep their homosexuality private, I wouldn't rely on studies to state what percentage of the population is gay.

Trust me...I know all about that part of the argument. I don't live in a bubble. I still stand behind my statement. You aren't schooling me in the issues behind homosexuality. Gosh...really, some people don't admit to being gay?! Research is as obtuse as asking a subset of people, "So are you gay or straight?" And if I want to make a statement without a two page disclaimer, I can. The likelihood that their is significant discrepancies from the 10% line is very low. How far from that line do you propose the true line is? 15% 20% 50% I'm not talking about Kinsey's spectrum, either. True single preference homosexuality is realistically under 10% of the population with bisexuality and a spectrum added in going over that. In the end, none of this changes what my original statement was....NO, it is not likely that ALL Greek men are homosexual!

If that DUH moment was the only thing you said (your only point) then I wouldn't have responded. :)

As for the overall tone of your posts, shut up and stop trying to make this dialogue about you.

I think that in the world only about 1 to 5 % is homosexual and then some bissexuals

But even though all Greek men may not be homosexual maybe there is a huge proportion of them :o
Everytime I google '' Ancient Greece sex '' all of the homosexual things come up first

It takes me some time to find heterosexuality there

Why in God's name would you google "Ancient Greece sex"? And why would come here and tell us all about it? Internet perv!! Ineternet perv!!! I NEED A GROWN UP!!!!

LOL

You and these .gifs

there's a lot going on in that .gif

I get them from another message board where the average poster is way more talented than the average GCer lol

Because I wanted to find heterosexuality or sex between men and women in Ancient Greece ?

This is a website for fraternities and sororities (clubs/groups that people join in the United States & Canada at college/universities that have greek letters for names). The information you are seeking wont be found here. Move along.

im SO done with Sen. and LOL @ Athens.

















that party looks like its poppin, though.

The guy in the purple t shirt is wearing a Pirates hat!! Whoo hoo! :)

You must be really fond of pirates hat

To each is own their sex life is their business.

^^^ why are you posting in threads that are over a year old? :rolleyes:

Ok, how did I miss this thread? So foreign troll thinks greek men are hot, googles teh hotness but finds out That they are all GAY? Oh noes!! I'm dying here reading this!

I have heard it said that most Greek men prefer anal sex over vaginal sex but I think that this stems from racism and not actual truth.

i hope the OP didn't google images in her search.

I missed this thread too!

You could substitute "the Bible" for "sexuality" and have a pretty accurate explanation for why modern American Christians are such a mess, theologically speaking I mean.

FYPFY. ;)

(At least, I hope it's more accurate.)

I maintain that we all, as a collective group, are a hot mess. lol

The same reason why everybody else did because they missed it. I can post anywhere I like thank you very much. End of topic next subject.