All White People Are RACIST!
 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/molly-..._b_458434.html
DISCLAIMER- I normally can't stomach the Huff Post but I do end up on the site about once a month out of morbid curiosity.

Hmmmm, didn't know John Mayer spoke for all white people. The author looks white herself.


"Mayer is exhibit 'A' when illustrating that racism resides within all white people. No exception. Sorry. Whether you are a hip, young liberal white guy who has played music with famous black musicians or a guy working at a factory in a rural Kentucky.

One cannot be raised in these United States with the history of racial oppression and hatred and not be racist."

Everyone's a Little Bit Racist.

Sorry. :D

Beat me to it, MC!

LOL.

yea, assuming one person speaks for the entire race is pretty stupid.

Well I mean it seems like people certainly think that about Black people. Apparently Al Sharpton speaks for all of US. Soooo now White people are just getting a taste of how it feels to have people think one person speaks for the whole race. It really is nothing new. But I think most people know that John Mayer is speaking for John Mayer.

For awhile I honestly thought HuffPost was a left-leaning version of The Onion. Apparently not.

and both are just as ignorant and misinformed. being stupid twice doesn't make you smart. and if you read the comments on that blog, i'm not that many people think john mayer is speaking just for john mayer. but then again, all those blog posters may just be speaking for themselves.

:shock:

All of you are too smart to get stuck on who speaks for whom. We already know that no race has a spokesperson.

The real point is in what Mayer was HORRIBLY attempting to convey, which is what many social scientists (99% are white) have been saying based on an analysis of the structure of race and power (which is what racism is--it isn't the same thing as prejudice and it doesn't require being prejudiced or bigoted--I don't give a darn whether you disagree with this so spare me). These social scientists have theorized that whites in societies where whites are the power majority are racist through social learning and group positioning. In societies where other groups are the power majority (which doesn't automatically happen just because a group is the population majority), these groups can ALSO be racist unintentionally, inadvertently, covertly, overtly, without biased intent, etc.

Tim Wise is a mainstream white person who has made such claims for years. He and other less mainstream people have used examples of racism (and sexism) such as how they often assume that they are the lead speaker or the leader of a group of intellects just because they are the white male. They sometimes have to catch themselves in action to challenge themselves to do better. That's classic status group hierarchy right there. It is still an example of racism despite the fact that there isn't the overtly discriminatory or bigoted outcome that the media (and uninformed people, in general) has told us to expect from "racism."

Al and Jesse do it all the time... :rolleyes:

WTF are you serious?

John Mayer probably has no racist feelings whatsoever. His comments were an extremely misguided attempt to get away from his wuss image and be "edgy."

LMAO!!!!!

I'd go further and say that John Mayer probably has no feelings whatsoever. His music seems stale, and planned. All of his emotional stuff, crying on stage, shooting off at the mouth. It's just so...fake. Everything about the guy strikes me as insincere.

I pretty much skipped everything else (including clicking the link) to read what you would say about it, so I could just agree and move on:

I agree.

Bye.

Always turn your brain on before typing to me.

You're expecting an intelligent/non-trollish response from MM?

Yes because he doesn't bother me and he has good discussions when he isn't trying to rile people up.

I must have missed those. All I've ever seen is articles taken out of context and random statistics that don't make sense/don't have a source.

I agree with this as well. I strongly agree with what is in bold face.

:):):):):)

Beautiful.

Yes.

I wouldn't compare John Mayer with Sharpton, who is a civil rights advocate who routinely brings up issues that affect and concern the Black community to the publics attention. Mayer is just a douche who is out of touch with reality.

Really it's the same thing.

What is?

Are these scientists saying that while white dominated societies ARE ALWAYS racist by nature, societies dominated by non-whites CAN ALSO ( as in maybe, sometimes, once in a blue moon) be racist? I just find it hard to believe it's a world wide trait of all Anglo societies to be racist. I'm not sure if I completely agree with that hypothesis based on what I've seen in my travels( don't feel like getting into it right now). Granted my experience in the matter is limited to people from Latin America and the middle east, but it's been my observation that people see there own race, in general, more favorably than other races.

It isn't my job to school you. Read more and then make an informed decision, agree or disagree.

http://www.philebrity.com/wp-content...ats_racist.gif

O well time to drag this old chestnut out.

I love that little kid...he puts so much pride into his work!

Another perspective:


On John Mayer’s ‘Hood Pass’: A moment of clarity
http://www.race-talk.org/?p=2817

I missed where Mayer had cross-over appeal and had ANY pass. Cross-over appeal would mean that he is liked by a representation of the Black population. Then his music would aire on Michael Baisden's show like Robin Thicke's Cartman sounding self does.

ETA: "Brittney Cooper, Ph.D. is an Assistant Professor of Women's Studies." :) Hence the social analysis of Mayer's comments. I agree with her but wish she had saved the good stuff for a more worthy and interesting topic.

Hell, most white people don't even like John Mayer. His music was mediocre at best, and then he stuck it in Jessica Simpson. He needs a human pass, not a hood pass.

Awwww. Not even a white pass? :( LOL

I like his music. I feel he received a mainstream pass when "Say What You Mean (?) To Say" was in those commercials. Then sexing Simpson gave him a TMZ and Entertainment Tonight pass.

How many passes are there?

That would be a fun and racy thread. :p

Does anyone remember when N Sync was making their "Black people like the song 'Gone'" media tour and they were on 106 and Park (back when it was good because AJ and Free were on it)? Chris said his stepfather is Black and idiots actually wowed and applauded. :rolleyes: It don't take muchtoget some folkacakklin'!

ETA: http://www.metrotimes.com/culture/story.asp?id=2405 :rolleyes:

Ah, but to her it is a worthy and interesting topic (worthy of noting and commenting on for the larger implications; I especially like her comments to Mayer's "defenders"). Of course, she does more "academic" or "serious" work, but she is also about taking these opportunities to comment on pop cultural events in ways that are informed by her training. To me, it's just good scholarly praxis.

Everyone supports health care. Can someone post the brofist pic so demost can put his nose to the screen? :)

DUH.

^^^ True....Hmm.

"I know if I was black I probably could sing 10 times better and riff a lot easier," enthused Joey Fatone

LOLing at the EWF reference too.

Want to take bets that if such a thread was started, how long it would last before it gets locked?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iq53IM93ZY...0/BROFIST..jpg


ask and ye shall receive.

Am I the lone John Mayer fan here? :o

His comments definitely had me perplexed and a lil hurt even at first, especially as a fan of color AND I just saw him live like two days before the interview came out. But he does love to eat his foot on whole wheat with mustard and a pickle ON THE REGULAR :rolleyes: and as fan, I'm well aware of it. But it still sucks.

I have only been to his concerts for the music and thoroughly enjoyed each and everyone. Jessica Simpson even sat behind me at one of his shows, but the real treat was when Billy Joel showed up next to her! :eek:

In 2003 I watched this scrawny kid make a guitar talk at an outdoor festival and sing about some really intense emotions. It spoke to me.