Your GLO's biggest rival on your campus
 

Our biggest rival is Pi Kapp, not a hateful rival, but nonetheless still a rival. Their one accomplishment this last year was beating our IM basketball team 59-57, and they took out an Ad in the School Newspaper stating

Pi Kapp 59
ATO 57

We then took out our own full page add

Pi Kapp 59
4 Years in a Row All-Campus IM Champs 57

Our rivals were:

Sig Ep
Pike

But in actuality most of the greeks in IFC resented us. We hung out mostly with Kappa Sigma and sometimes with AXP.

They were all in good fun though.

A Fiji told me once that at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, their fraternity and mine are rivals.

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When I was at college they were all our rivals as we were a local. In A good way as they all helped us to get recognized by the School as we were up against a small National.
Today though our main rivals run between SX and SPE depending on the situation. Sounds crazy, but our enemies were the Sig Eps, until the SX stole some near and dear things about the lacal from our house one night. They joined forces and went to the SX house in mass. Well the s--t hit the fan and local fuzz showed up.. It is funny as one of my Brothers son joined the Sig Ep house which is across the street and he is # 54 in our House.

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Tom Earp LX Z#1
Pittsburg State U. (Kansas)

Pike's lived at the top of the hill, while Sigma Chi's lived at the bottom (okay - I should say MOUNTAIN since that is where I was in school at) --- Lambchopper's lived in the middle of the hill, but a little to the right.

So every time Sigma Chi had a party (which was pretty often considering they had a GREAT party building) the Pikes would rush down the hill -- well they made so much freaking noise (of course) that the Sig's would rush up the hill --- and the lambchoppers of course couldn't let it be, so they rushed out to meet in the middle. It was pretty freaking hilarious to watch because all these *fine upstanding morally conscious* men who would inevitably be falling out of the brawl and rolling down the hill. After that everyone would get up, dust off, and back to the party http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif - Man I miss those good 'ol days!!

Oh....I almost forgot....Phi Mu and Chi Omega are our biggest rivals. No details necessary http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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axo alum where did you matriculate at?

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Tom Earp LX Z#1
Pittsburg State U. (Kansas)

I would say that our rival is Kappa Delta. But, it's all in fun.

Up here we have two rival schools comprising one greek system. Although the sammies are the biggest here, and sigma pi is the biggest there, there really isn't a big rivalry between them. It's more so the betas against everyone else.

Concordia and McGill??

Pi Kappa Phi....we are the top two fraternities and no one on campus likes them cause they are way too cocky. Hey nole...i think some of the pi kapp brothers at FSU are literally gay. We drove by the house and about 20 of them were washing each other in front of the house, and later we hung out at some bars on Tennessee st. and I ran into a couple that were wearing lavalieers that you give to a girl.

Ottawa U and Carleton.

Hey Miami1839,

What fraternity are you in? I go to Miami University, just curious.

BrianMUDU,

Beta Theta Pi Alum from George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia

Kevin

Miami,

Makes sense I guess. The Fiji house and the Beta house are right across the street from each other. But there are many houses near each other at Miami. For instance, our house has one other fraternity houses behind us, two diagonally behind and in front, another to one side, and a last one in front of us across the street.

Brian

Kappa Delta was just chartered in November and there are 8 other NPC chapters at ECU so I think every chapter is our rival.
The chapters are more our mentors at the moment, they have been on campus since 1960 so, we have a lot to learn from them all! But I can't lie, I can't wait until we are Chi Omega's rival, in a good way!
But I'm just an old alumnae, active KDs may think otherwise!

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Brian,

Thats cool. Yeah, Miami University is where we were founded. I never knew the houses are like that. I do remember him saying that Fiji and my fraternity were across the street from each other.

Our biggest rivals are the chi phi's here - it's all in good fun, but intramural and IFSC sports and the like get pretty intense.

Hey Lil'G, do you know any DPhiEs at Ottawa U?

Siobhan

I don't know them very well, because I lived with three tri delts last year I'm really close to them. I'm also freinds with some of the nu sigs as well (local).
The deffers are very small here, don't qoute me on this but i heard they were down to under 10 actives.

The Ottawa-Carleton system here is very disproportionate, the groups are either doing very well or struggling. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif

Kevin,

Most of the fraternity houses at Miami are in little "groups". Our house (DU), Sigma Chi, Deke, Phi Tau, Lambda Chi, SAE, Sigma Nu, Sigma Pi and Delta Tau Delta (who are now gone for a few years) are all in the same area. Beta, Fiji, Acacia, Phi Psi and SAM are in the same area. Same with Phi Delt, PKA and Kappa Alpha. There are a few that are in the middle of nowhere by themselves though.

Brian

Hey Siobhan, what are the fraternities at UBC like? I heard the betas are all pretty boys. What's Kappa Sigma like?

Brian, Thats cool. Does it workout that your houses are so close together?

Siobhan,

Yeah, what are the Betas like?

Thanks LiL_G http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

My dad was a Beta at UBC, so I would think they must be cool! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Betas at UBC: Yes they are pretty boys, but the ones I know are very nice and lots of fun (my cousin is a Beta). They are one of the top fraternities at UBC (along with Sigma Chi and Kappa Sig). As far as Kappa Sig goes I don't know them that well but they are a very strong on our campus and seem like pretty decent guys. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif I'm closest with Sigma Chi and Phi Delta Theta: Sigma Chi is pretty popular, good looking, fun group of guys, very involved in campus politics. The Phi Delts are among the smaller fraternities, but are still a very strong chapter and a great group of guys to hang around with. Deke recently shut down and has just rechartered due to major internal problems, but from what I'veheard they are on the upswing. Psi U is pretty much gone, Fijis are the trouble makers. Alpha Delts are small, but again a good group of guys and excell at sports. And there is a new fraternity AEPi who have just colonized, so I don't know much about them, but they will be part of IFC Rush this fall.

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Welwyn and Siobhan,

Cool. Thank You http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Kevin

On my campus, our rival, but a very friendly one, was with Theta Phi Alpha. The other rivalry on campus was between SDT and Phi Sig Sig. That was a NASTY rivalry too!

KKG is my sorority's main rival (I'm a Theta). Our other rival is Delta Gamma. We're all friends though! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

As a fellow UBC greek, here is my take on our Greek system & it's rivalries ...

I agree with Siobhan in that the Betas here at are the pretty boys. This year they have an intense rivalry here with KSig for intramural supremacy.

In terms of the sororities, I'd have to say that our (AGD) biggest rival has traditionally been Kappa, though lately it seems to be Gamma Phi in intramurals ( we are currently #1!!).

Within the UBC greek system, there seems to be a few tiers when it comes to the fraternities & sororities (numbers-wise). For the fraternities, it's Beta, KSig at the top with Fiji & then Sigma Chi next, followed up by Alpha Delt, Phi Delt & Psi U (I've omitted Deke & the new AEPi).

As for the sororities, Kappa, Gamma Phi, ADPi & us are at or near total, with DG & DphiE not far behind, & then Alpha Phi (still holding in there).

I've got friends in almost all of the fraternities (except Psi-U & AEPi), & most of the sororities as well. It has definitely been interesting to watch our greek system (& especially the FIJIs) evolve over the past four years.

Just my thoughts.

Wow, definitely a discrepancy in opinions of campus http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif
I was curious about the betas because in Ontario they're all big guys, and at carleton they're not very well-liked because they start a lot of shit. In fact, I'm good freinds with guys of every other fraternity except them and phi delta theta.

I was just talking the other day with one of the tri delts about how much the greek system is changing. Between Ottawa-Carleton there are 10 active fraternities and 9 active sororties founded within the last 12 years.

There's many other groups also looking to expand to the capital region. In fact, Zeta Psi (who are on a tear expanding across Canada) are scoping out the campus looking to colonize for september.

Living so close to one another is not a big problem I don't think. I think fraternities at Miami are very segregated -- you don't usually see a lot of chapters working closely with each other like I've heard at other schools. That's just what people who have visited here have said. I think a lot are indifferent towards each other -- we don't really have a problem with the majority of fraternities nearby, and there are 8 within a 1 minute walking distance.

At our Greek Convocation, the keynote speaker had said that at the school he works with (forget where), you could walk into a fraternity house and it wouldn't be unusual to see a group of guys studying from a handful of different chapters. Here it isn't very common in my opinion.

Sororities are closer than fraternities here I think because they are not allowed to have houses. Having a house can make you feel like you have your own territory, and you "defend" that territory and might not feel comfortable at another house. I guess it depends on the individual though.

Brian

Brian,

That's cool. On my campus we didnt have a greek row. We had around 16 Fraternities. Then we had 6 sororities. They just added another one recently. Alpha Xi Delta. We didnt have any greek housing which sucked but then we did intermingle a lot more. Probably more than if we did have a row. However we did have our share of rivalry during IFC Intramurals. Our beach week(Myrtle Beach, SC.) brought our greek life closer together too which was nice because sometimes you got to meet others that you generally didnt hang out with during the year.

Kevin

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I go to Slippery Rock University PA and I'm a pike over there. Our main rival on campus is Sigma Tau Gamma. They are almost the oldest fraternity on campus and we're the youngest one on campus.

Well, on our campus, rivalries change from day to day, but in terms of recruitment, we always compete with Phi Sigma Sigma. In terms of actual battle, it's usually one of the locals http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif Can you feel the love? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

OK pikes109, maybeyou can help me see this from the other side of the issue. Because that I don’t get. No offense, but how can you not get on with a group you don’t even know? At my campus, we have a new chapter (I am not sure if they have their charter yet) anyway, for some reason we don’t get along at all. I don’t know why, because we are COMPLETELY different chapters. We recruit to WAY different groups, and the makeup of our chapters is really different. But they resent us and don’t even know us. We don’t resent them or hate them, because we have NO reason to. They arent even considered a threat to us, because our orgs are so diff. Not that we really care that much, but since it was brought up I thought Id mention it. The part I find HILLARIOUS is that if it weren’t for my org, they wouldn’t even be on campus. We were the ones that urged IFC into expansion talks. It was our brother who headed up the Expansion committee, it was our urging that selected that org. Our bothers even helped their expansion teams. I guess they don’t have a sense of their own history, or know where they come from. I understand how my chapter is a bit cocky, but we have earned the right to be proud. We won the basketball championship. Almost always are first in grades, have had the biggest rushes the past few semesters. Have great relations with the school, and always have the student Govmt presidency. We also have 100% involvement in student orgs. We have good parties, and great atheletes. We are the second oldest fraternity on campus, and have been at the university for 23 years (young school, young system). So I kinda thnk we have the right to be proud of who we are. We have the campus rep for being gentlemen, and that’s what the ladies always say about us. Yeah, we have our players and jerks, but ALL OF US DO. So I dunno who these boys think they are. Wew have just chalked it up to posturing. We usually just ignore em, ‘cause it’s a non-issue. We have more important things to do. We have our traditional rivalry with one of the older more established orgs, just cause we have a history with them.

Ok I'm not sure I quite understand your question. First let me tell you why we are rivals. Sigma Tau Gamma was one of the best fraternities before we showed up on campus. They won every athletic event, had the most pledges, and won greek week every year. My chapter was established in 97 and we basically took their pledges away from them and swept greek week ever since. They don't like us because we were such a young chapter and took everything away from them. Rivalies don't always have to work both ways. They first declared that they did not like us for many reasons so in return we did not like them as well. I'm not sure how it works with your campus but basically they don't like us because we're the new guys on campus, so in return we don't like them.

I see where ya'll are coming from. That would even make sense if the same conditions existed on our campus. Maybe I could use a back channel way to find out what their beef is. it probably didnt help matter much when they were really looing forward to beating us in intramurals (b-ball) and they led the firstr half and then we came from behind and beat them by 15 or 20 points (I dont honestly remember). So it might have been hard on them. They had a lot emotionally invested in the game, and we didnt.

But this existed from the first of the semester. We had a new member tell us about them hot-boxing him as a prospect. maybe you are riht, the rivalry thing doesnt have to be both ways. Maybe they wanted some tof the guys we signed or something. I dont think we wanted any of the guys who checkd them out or signed with them.

I have a tendancy to be too analytical. I just think there has to be a reason. Ima 'spicious person by nature. Maybe they just dont like us. <me crying in my diet coke>

Thanks 109,

lifesaver

Reading through some of the posts. I noticed there were no historically and predominately African American Sororities listed.I am a lady of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Inc. which is the first sorority for collegiate black women founded in 1908. By anyway, on my campus there is little to no rivalry between the different minority greeks because its so few of us, we really have to stick together and be one unified body. Coming from a nationality where there is little unity within the race itself sometimes Greek Life is one of the few places where you see African-Americans treating each other like brothers and sisters. I do have a question for the more NPC and IFC Greek Orgs- Why do you rival against each other, or in other words what purpose does it really serve?

-I am not trying to bash anyone, I just want more understanding.

AKACubana-
I think the rivalaries mentioned, maybe with one or two exceptions were friendly. Rivarlies, not just Greek ones, serve many purposes. One is that friendly competetion feels good, and is healthy, if one doesn't get too involved in it. It can also lead to creative things like seeing who can get the most money for charity. As far as rush, maybe who can bring the most good guys into the greek world. That way you win if you win, but if you loose, everybody wins overall cuz you just did a really good thing.

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I can answer just by relating a story. On my campus, my sorority and Theta Phi Alpha were the two sororities that attracted the most awesome women: full of integrity, talent, and smarts. If a woman did not pick TPA, they picked us and vice versa. It was just the fight for the quality women out there. Unlike NPHC potentials, whom from this board, I understand go to one group and one group's recruitment events only lest be seen as not really interested in that chapter, women who rush NPC sororities may or may not know what chapter they are interested in due to the different qualities she is looking for. Each chapter of an NPC group is different, so, she may have liked ABC at New Bunk U., but finds that she is much more like the women in XYZ at Old Bunk College. It's not that we are RIVALS, but we are sometimes picking and competing for the same pool of awesome women...Make sense? It's a rivalry that makes us work harder to improve ourselves and the NPC on campus! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Rivalries are tough to pin down for us...it depends on what category you are talking about. For my chapter - PIKE at UWG - our rivalries can be split into athletic, campus involvement, sorority preference/social, rush, etc. Depending on the category, we almost have a different rival for each one. For athletics its probably Kappa Sig & Chi Phi; for campus involv. its Pi Kappa; for sorority/socials its probably KA & Chi Phi; for rush its Chi Phi. However, my chapter is newly recolonized after a 5 year absence and many of the old rivalries have had a chance to die down. Back in the day, Chi Phi was our overall biggest rival in nearling everything. Sigma Nu would challenge in athletics every now and then, and Teke just seemed like they were always out to get us even though they had no chance of competing against us.
Rivalries change over the years, especially if your school is big on improving Greek Unity and Cooperation.

KD and Tri-Delt