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MidwesternSPE 02-05-2010 01:51 PM

Paying for alcohol: do you, don't you, and getting around it.
 
Hey guys, I was just wondering what your particular chapter's policies are in regards to alcohol at social events? Obviously it's always there, but do you guys purchase it outright from the budget, use a slush fund, etc? Do you pick up bar tabs or have drink specials or do BYOB? Do you hide it as a "room reservation" fee or what? My own chapter has at various times done all these and I'm looking to see what others do.

Thanks!

Psi U MC Vito 02-05-2010 01:53 PM

dude, you shouldn't be airing stuff like this on a public forum.
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Originally Posted by MidwesternSPE (Post 1893220)
Hey guys, I was just wondering what your particular chapter's policies are in regards to alcohol at social events? Obviously it's always there, but do you guys purchase it outright from the budget, use a slush fund, etc? Do you pick up bar tabs or have drink specials or do BYOB? Do you hide it as a "room reservation" fee or what? My own chapter has at various times done all these and I'm looking to see what others do.

Thanks!


als463 02-05-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwesternSPE (Post 1893220)
Hey guys, I was just wondering what your particular chapter's policies are in regards to alcohol at social events? Obviously it's always there, but do you guys purchase it outright from the budget, use a slush fund, etc? Do you pick up bar tabs or have drink specials or do BYOB? Do you hide it as a "room reservation" fee or what? My own chapter has at various times done all these and I'm looking to see what others do.

Thanks!


So...wait. Maybe I'm confused. Did you just pretty much put your chapter out there as a chapter who disregards your Inter/National policies regarding alcohol? Boy, I hope I'm wrong.

Gusteau 02-05-2010 01:58 PM

Lets not act all shocked and innocent people. Almost every chapter everywhere bends, if not completely disregards, alcohol policy. It happens. I'm not saying its the right thing to do, and I'm certainly not saying you should talk about it on an internet message board, but there's no need to get sanctimonious.

Psi U MC Vito 02-05-2010 02:04 PM

I wasn't and I don't think als was. we were just shocked that he wpuld put somehting like that on a public message board. Or at least i was.

agzg 02-05-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwesternSPE (Post 1893220)
Hey guys, I was just wondering what your particular chapter's policies are in regards to alcohol at social events? Obviously it's always there, but do you guys purchase it outright from the budget, use a slush fund, etc? Do you pick up bar tabs or have drink specials or do BYOB? Do you hide it as a "room reservation" fee or what? My own chapter has at various times done all these and I'm looking to see what others do.

Thanks!

Your organization should have rules regarding alcohol (including who may buy it, how it should be funded, etc) in its risk management policies. Please refer to that and/or contact your (Inter)National Headquarters.

:)

Kevin 02-05-2010 02:37 PM

Everything we do is in conformity with local law, Sigma Nu rules and the university's alcohol policy.

WCsweet<3 02-05-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 1893223)
Lets not act all shocked and innocent people. Almost every chapter everywhere bends, if not completely disregards, alcohol policy. It happens. I'm not saying its the right thing to do, and I'm certainly not saying you should talk about it on an internet message board, but there's no need to get sanctimonious.

Actually with my chapter, alcohol isn't allowed on the premise. It might be so strict because our campus is dry or that my chapter is just picky on that rule. Also all our events are dry, meaning no alcohol on location. What you do before hand is a different matter. If you turn up plastered you aren't allowed to go and have to be sober at the next event. You are tied to your date so if he shows up drunk then neither of you are allowed to go and he isn't allowed to return to another function. Oh and this is drunk meaning being sick or noticeably drunk.

We are actually having a social tomorrow so interesting topic to turn up right now.

knight_shadow 02-05-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WCsweet<3 (Post 1893355)
our campus is dry

Yikes.

agzg 02-05-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WCsweet<3 (Post 1893355)
Actually with my chapter, alcohol isn't allowed on the premise. It might be so strict because our campus is dry or that my chapter is just picky on that rule. Also all our events are dry, meaning no alcohol on location. What you do before hand is a different matter. If you turn up plastered you aren't allowed to go and have to be sober at the next event. You are tied to your date so if he shows up drunk then neither of you are allowed to go and he isn't allowed to return to another function. Oh and this is drunk meaning being sick or noticeably drunk.

We are actually having a social tomorrow so interesting topic to turn up right now.

No NPC sororities are "allowed" to have alcohol in the chapter houses and or official dwellings or spaces.

33girl 02-05-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1893356)
Yikes.

All 14 state owned PA universities are dry. However, the Greek houses are not on campus so as far as that's concerned it's a moot point. "Dry campus" just means you don't have a bar on campus or can't have alcohol in your dorm room. Solution: move off campus ASAP. Plus a "wet campus" doesn't mean 18-20 year olds can drink.

Oh, and she said with her chapter. She didn't say that they can't go to a fraternity house or a sister's apartment off campus and get crocked. No offense, just calling a spade a spade.

33girl 02-05-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1893359)
No NPC sororities are allowed to have alcohol in the chapter houses and or official dwellings or spaces.

But again...let's not kid ourselves.

knight_shadow 02-05-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1893362)
All 14 state owned PA universities are dry. However, the Greek houses are not on campus so as far as that's concerned it's a moot point. "Dry campus" just means you don't have a bar on campus or can't have alcohol in your dorm room. Solution: move off campus ASAP. Plus a "wet campus" doesn't mean 18-20 year olds can drink.

Oh, and she said with her chapter. She didn't say that they can't go to a fraternity house or a sister's apartment off campus and get crocked. No offense, just calling a spade a spade.

My campus allowed students who were of age to have alcohol in their dorms/apartments. I know that many Greek houses are dry, but I would cause a ruckus if I couldn't drink a beer in my dorm room if I wanted to.

That was the reason for my "yikes" :)

Gusteau 02-05-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WCsweet<3 (Post 1893355)
Actually with my chapter, alcohol isn't allowed on the premise. It might be so strict because our campus is dry or that my chapter is just picky on that rule. Also all our events are dry, meaning no alcohol on location. What you do before hand is a different matter. If you turn up plastered you aren't allowed to go and have to be sober at the next event. You are tied to your date so if he shows up drunk then neither of you are allowed to go and he isn't allowed to return to another function. Oh and this is drunk meaning being sick or noticeably drunk.

We are actually having a social tomorrow so interesting topic to turn up right now.

I was referring to fraternities, I should have clarified.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1893364)
But again...let's not kid ourselves.

:)

WCsweet<3 02-05-2010 08:24 PM

Actually we are not recognized by the university if our functions have any alcohol, even for those of age. This is not only for the sororities, but for the fraternities as well. There was a fraternity who went against this or didn't agree (before my time) and is not recognized by the university which means they are unable to use campus resources (money, meeting places, advertising etc) and we (we meaning other chapters) are not allowed to acknowledge or have functions with them. We can go to other places to drink but not any "live out" because that would be an extension of the sorority and therefore against rules.

agzg 02-05-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1893364)
But again...let's not kid ourselves.

Sorry, forgot my air quotes - editing asap.

als463 02-05-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 1893223)
Lets not act all shocked and innocent people. Almost every chapter everywhere bends, if not completely disregards, alcohol policy. It happens. I'm not saying its the right thing to do, and I'm certainly not saying you should talk about it on an internet message board, but there's no need to get sanctimonious.

First, let me say "thank you" to Psi U MC Vito for being better at explaining why I was shocked. That is exactly why I was wondering what would make him post his chapter's business on this site.

Second, Gusteau, as someone who was part of the Greek system at the #1 party school in the nation, I'm pretty sure that I realize certain fraternity chapters bend rules. I'm not that old, thank you.

I guess I must be out of the loop, though. I've seen people come on here and use little discretion when it comes to preparing for sorority/ fraternity rush (by giving up all of their info and then trash-talking chapters), people who outright talk about hazing that goes on in their specific chapters, and now a guy who is telling all of Greekchat that his chapter is in the process of breaking or bending rules that his HQ put in place. I guess I'm shocked that people no longer care. :confused:

Senusret I 02-05-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1893367)
My campus allowed students who were of age to have alcohol in their dorms/apartments. I know that many Greek houses are dry, but I would cause a ruckus if I couldn't drink a beer in my dorm room if I wanted to.

That was the reason for my "yikes" :)

I yiked, too.

At my school the residence halls (dorms) were dry, even if you were 21, but the apartments were wet.

KSUViolet06 02-05-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1893475)
I yiked, too.

At my school the residence halls (dorms) were dry, even if you were 21, but the apartments were wet.

At my alma mater, there are certain (primarily freshman/sophomore populated) dorms that are dry (no matter your age).

However, there are dorms in which you can drink if 21+. They're primarily junior/senior dorms. Space is limited in those though, and sometimes older peeps get stuck in a dry dorm.

This is why most people moved to apartments once they were able because you didn't have to worry about what dorm you were in.

All of the sorority houses were dry of course, so the most common pattern was to live-in during sophomore/junior year (if your chapted had a one year lease) and move into an apt. for junior year or senior year.

ASTalumna06 02-05-2010 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1893362)
All 14 state owned PA universities are dry. However, the Greek houses are not on campus so as far as that's concerned it's a moot point. "Dry campus" just means you don't have a bar on campus or can't have alcohol in your dorm room.

We were allowed to have alcohol in our dorm room as long as we were 21. And if a person under the age of 21 lived with you, there could only be one open container in the room at one time.

33girl 02-06-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1893571)
We were allowed to have alcohol in our dorm room as long as we were 21. And if a person under the age of 21 lived with you, there could only be one open container in the room at one time.

Penn State (and its various campi) isn't state owned - it's state affiliated. (Along w/ Pitt, Temple & Lincoln.) Subtle but important difference.

pshsx1 02-06-2010 02:29 PM

My chapter had a pretty big RM issue last year, so no chapter funds nor collected funds can be used to buy alcohol. We even altered party rotation here during Rush so that we were stuck with Delta Phi Epsilon and we could host a dry event together.

Brutally*Honest 02-06-2010 02:46 PM

That comment is highly offensive!
 
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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1893825)
My chapter had a pretty big RM issue last year, so no chapter funds nor collected funds can be used to buy alcohol. We even altered party rotation here during Rush so that we were stuck with Delta Phi Epsilon and we could host a dry event together.

While I am not a member of DPhieE, I find this post to be highly offensive. So much for Panhellenic and greek unity.

Just sayin'

As always,
Brutally*Honest

knight_shadow 02-06-2010 02:59 PM

^^^ Worst sockpuppet ever.

als463 02-06-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1893832)
^^^ Worst sockpuppet ever.

Wow. I'm always confused about what is going on. I rarely understand what certain letter phrases mean and it took me a while to actually get what IRL or IMHO meant.

I know that there is an issue with BA, but is Brutally Honest also a sock puppet? I need to come on here more.

33girl 02-07-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by als463 (Post 1893970)
Wow. I'm always confused about what is going on. I rarely understand what certain letter phrases mean and it took me a while to actually get what IRL or IMHO meant.

I know that there is an issue with BA, but is Brutally Honest also a sock puppet? I need to come on here more.

It's not BA. It's also really ironic that this particular sock is bemoaning the lack of "Greek unity."

Barbie's_Rush 02-07-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutally*Honest (Post 1893830)
While I am not a member of DPhieE, I find this post to be highly offensive. So much for Panhellenic and greek unity.

Just sayin'

As always,
Brutally*Honest

Yeah, because your GLO is so proud of you, nutty.

ZTAngel 02-07-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1894156)
It's not BA. It's also really ironic that this particular sock is bemoaning the lack of "Greek unity."

Seriously. Especially one who constantly brags about how elite her organization is.


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