which is better?
 

I have this argument with a co-worker. He feels that Orange Crush is the best kind. Although it is good, i have to disagree when it come to the best for what you pay for. I feel that Oregon Hydroponics is much better. What do you think?

I always felt hydro was missing something that can only be gotten in God given dirt.

Anybody could pass something for orange crush. I would want to know the grower.

Purple Koosh, or cush, or something like that. Hell it could have been called pink elephant for all I care. Very kind.

forgive my ignorance...but what the hell are you guys talking about?

yes, let us know :0)

Planting methods. ex. hydroponics is growing plants in just water, no soil.

and orange crush is?

Enlightenment
 

I will fill ya'll in...they are debating the best kind of mar-i-juan-a.

Ok let me give this to you straight he is talking about weed. http://student.oakton.edu/~boro6832/high/types.htm

I don't do that crap I just remember back when I was in my cj class an DEA agent mentioned the types. I don't recomend anyone doing that crap unless you have alot of braincells to lose

it is not crap, it enhance the intelectual capability. If everybody is enhanced, the world will be more peacefull. Beside, ever herd of a fight started by two stoned dude?

true true....i think most ppl will agree that alcohol is hands down worse than weed

And we're helping the Greek image how?

Hey crazyleggedsigma-haven't seen you posting for awhile, glad your back-sorry off the subject.

It tells people that Fraternities and sororities member appreciate alternative to what is spoon fed by the government.

It tells people that we are able to debate the law that is not only rediciulous (sp?), but immoral in that it imprison many individuals that does not deserve to be in prison. They violate the law, I know, but hey Oliver North violated a lot of laws, and he is now a conservative poster boy.

It also stick it to the man. Can't wait for Ralph Nader to take over the government. Oh well, a man can dream can't he?

It also tells people the hypocracy that our government has given us. It's bad for us to smoke marijuana, but it's ok for them to topple a democratically elected government and put in a dictator that eventually killed hundreds of thousands of people. Example:
Iran, Peru, Iraq, Indonesia, Congo, etc.

The point of the matter is that marijuana is an illegal drug in this country and that MANY people -- including the majority of Greeks that I know -- do not condone its use. I'm one of them. I've seen firsthand how marijuana affects people and it's not a pretty picture. Disagree with me all you like but the facts remain:

1) it IS illegal
2) it IS harmful

And I don't feel that debating which type of it is 'the best' has any place on Greek Chat. This site is intended to help Greeks, not re-inforce negative stereotypes about them.

Thank you. That is exactly what I meant. Just because we believe something is okay doesn't mean we can violate laws in place against it. If you thought the world would be a better place without a few certain people, you cannot just go out and kill them because you feel it is the right thing to do.

Unless of course you're a Hegalian or Nietzsche Superhuman, in which case you must immeadiately kill them...go, quickly.

Jesse Ventura on Marijuana
 

I keep hearing case after case of somebody doing ten years for drug possession sitting in a cell next to somebody doing two years for a violent crime. Marijuana can get you more time than assault. We’ve got to change that. Prisons should be reserved for violent criminals. Putting anybody else in there is a misdirection, and a complete waste of government resources.

Our government has the weirdest bias against cannabis. There’s no reason for everybody to be so afraid of it. It’s not the antichrist the DEA makes it out to be. Industrial hemp is a very useful plant. I challenged the attorney general to get rid of the criminal stigma associated with hemp so we can look at it in terms of how it might be useful. And government has no business telling us what we can and can’t use for pain relief.

Noam Chompsky on Marijuana, well Drugs in general
 

At the time the drug war was launched, deaths from tobacco were estimated at about 300,000 a year, with perhaps another 100,000 from alcohol. But these aren’t the drugs the Bush administration targeted. It went after illegal drugs, which had caused many fewer deaths-3,500 a year.
The administration also targeted marijuana, which hadn’t caused any known deaths among some 60 million users. In fact, the crackdown exacerbated the drug problem.

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Are you serious?

My feeling is, don't condone or bash something that you may have never tried. So mariajuana is illegal...so is running a stop sign or a red light or supplying alcohol to minor or using a fake ID, but i bet many people out there have done it any way and will continue to do it, no matter how many other people say that its wrong.

Ralph Nader on Marijuana and Drugs issues
 

“Addiction should never be treated as a crime. It has to be treated as a health problem. We do not send alcoholics to jail in this country. Over 500,000 people are in our jails who are nonviolent drug users.”

“If you know anyone who got high on industrial hemp, tell the National Science Foundation and you’ll get a prize for the most unlikely scientific discovery ever. George Bush’s father was saved by a parachute made of industrial hemp.”

My opinion is that the US already has enough of a problem with legal drugs such as tobacco and alcohol. Why add more fuel to the fire by adding marijuana to that list? Although I agree that jails should be filled with violent people instead of someone who accidently sold a nickel bag to an undercover cop, marijuana is still a drug. There might not be any known deaths because of it but I can assure you that I have had many friends and two boyfriends who started smoking a good 12 bowls a day (maybe more) because they said, "It's not addictive and you can't die from it." Well, they may not have died but right now they are pleading with the university to let them back in because their GPA dropped to a whopping 1.2 :eek:

I have never herd of a fight started by two stoned dude, but I may have heard of one started by two stoned dudes. You say that pot enhances your intelectual capability. Right. You just can't remember basic rules of grammar.

Sorry, I can vouch for the fact that it does not make you feel smarter. You may think that you are more in tune with the universe or whatever. All it did for me (yes, I did try it a whopping four times in high school...everyone makes mistakes) was give me the "I'm too sleepy to get out of bed yet' feeling times about 20. I, like some others on this board, have seen several brilliant minds go down the tubes (up in smoke??) as a result of this wonderful harmless habit.

And for those of you who use industrial hemp as a supporting argument, what sort of logic are you using? You say right in your posts that it is impossible to get high from it. Just as wild beasts have been bred and conditioned to become the tame housecats we have today, so has industrial hemp been carefully manipulated to lack some of its relatives' negative characteristics. I agree that it is a wonderful alternative to many current materials.

No amount of arguing will change anyones mind about this one!

A fare acquaintance of mine is probably going to jail for a very long time. Of course he had much more than pot in his place. A pharmacy in Amsterdam didn't have half the shit this chap had...another one gone awry.

The only Orange Crush I know of is the soft drink..couldn't figure out what the Oregon whatchamcallit was.

I'll stick to coke...coca-cola that is, after all, I'm from Georgia!;) :) :D

LOL!! Good answer. I agree completely. :)

There was a "legalize it or not" thread a couple months ago, if anyone wants to carry on that conversation.

Yes, true. But why? Brief history: It wasn't illegal in the US for many years. Simply, it is illegal because tobacco interests offed it to get rid of competition oh-so-many years ago . .

Sure . . . but what else is harmful? Hell, if you eat too many bananas, you can get hyperkalemic (too much potasium), which is definitely life-threatening. One key - cigarettes are far worse in terms of long-term health detriments.

Well . . . this may have validity, but realistically the fact that certain members of the greek community do one thing or another doesn't make us all in that vein, and with proper actions by the rest of us we avoid being stereotyped. There are greeks who really love golden showers, but that doesn't filter up to the 'stereotype' level. This sort of thing doesn't have to either, and if it does reinforce a negative stereotype for a particular person, I don't want that sort of man in my chapter. I would rather have one who thinks for himself, and sees past the drudgery and bullshit of stereotyping.


And i don't even smoke weed.

Hey ya'll - we're in the "chit chat" section. THis qualifies as chit chat. And honestly, this is no worse than us talking about our favorite alcohol or girls talking about make-up and stuff - that's reinforcing negative stereotypes, right? If people want to chit chat about weed (on either side of the issue), that's they're business.

And I don't even smoke weed either.

Anyone can say, "legalize it," but fortunately thats not how our government works. Marijuana wasnt prohibited to posess until 1970. before then, you had to have a tax-stamp to be in posession of it. Unfortunately, you had to have the MJ to get a stamp. But if you showed up to get the stamp, you were arrested. In 1969 the "Marijuana Tax-Stamp Act" was delared unconstitutional, as it violated the constitution. So for the year 1969-1970, marijuana was legal to posess. Well, before long, congress got its hands in the matter and passed the "Controlled Substances Act" of 1970. Which said that marijuana was illegal to make, grow, posess, maufacture, transport, etc.. because there was "no therapudic or medicinal value." So thats why its illegal. The govmt hides behind that. Well in the last 30 years study after study has shown it to have medicinal value, but I cant think of more than 3 congressmen who want to tackle the issue, because the only ones who vote in this country are the 85 year old blue haired ladies who are terrified of everything.

I also find it interesting that J Edgar Transvestite used the original "Marijuana Tax-Stamp Act" as a way to horass minorities, and those on the fringes of society, musicians, writers, and intellectuals. When we put it in perspective, it doesnt seem so evil, now does it? Another thing to note is that if the govmt could make a serious dollar of of it like they do in gasoline (state and fedreal taxes are at 38.6 cents PER GALLON in Texas.) there would be a box to check off for marijuana on your tax forms.


FYI, Not only do I not smoke week either, but I have never even TRIED, Bill Clinton cant even say that. But then again JFK was a Narc addict.