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So there's a little back story to my recruitment. I go to a sec school and personally I was not interested in greek life at the beginning of the semester. However my father is really big on it. President of alumni in the area, goes to events and retreats etc. Plus I'm from Jackson ms, so going greek is a must if you're from there. At the beginning of fall semester I pretty much already knew which fraternity i was going to be in. Talked to them all summer, went ot a couple of their parties they already felt like brothers before school started. So i go through recruitment, I go to this house exclusively, i also bring my best friend who wasn't big on greek life but came out anyway. So to make a long story short bid day came around. I of course recieve a bid but my best friend doesn't. Literally right before i sign my bid, i casusally ask them why my friend didnt recieve one. One of the guys simply told me because he's arab and some of the alumni wouldn't like it, but he was a pretty cool guy. I was beyond furious. I end up getting into a big arguement with some of the brothers for this blatent racism. I call my dad, he and some other inluential alumini come to the house to discuss the matters. After about an hour and a half of talking to me they still won't change their minds because "thats just how things are, around here". My own father agreed with them. So i didn't sign my bid and was simply disgusted by the thought of greek life.... But throughout the semester I was actively recruited by 3 to 4 fraternities who all seem pretty cool. So i decided to give it one more shot. Also my dad offered to buy me a new car, if i gave his another chance, so of course i can't pass that up.... Side note after reading stories on here in my opinion fraternity recruitment is harder because your arent shuffled around to every house, you actually have to go out of your way and meet the guys. Anyway wish me luck here are my top 5 so far without going through recruitment, maybe more will be adeded later we will see.

Red (Dad's fraternity)
Blue (Uncles's fraternity)
Green
Orange (My favorite so far, actively recruited me)
Black

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889049)

I'm excited. :)

Me too.

I'm betting on Black.

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889049)

Side note after reading stories on here in my opinion fraternity recruitment is harder because your arent shuffled around to every house, you actually have to go out of your way and meet the guys.

I like this idea.

Good luck, I'm interested to see where this goes...

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1889053)

Me too.

I'm betting on Black.

Once you go Black, you never go back. ;)

To greek22: There are SEC fraternity men - and others - on this site who might be able to figure out exactly where you are rushing and which houses from what you post (even with code names). As such, be sure to be discreet when discussing your rush experience so as not to jeopardize your rush in any way.

Best of luck and I look forward to hearing more.

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Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 1889075)

To greek22: There are SEC fraternity men - and others - on this site who might be able to figure out exactly where you are rushing and which houses from what you post (even with code names). As such, be sure to be discreet when discussing your rush experience so as not to jeopardize your rush in any way.

Not to mention the possibility of figuring out exactly who greek22 is, given the references to his father, his best friend and the declined bid.

Perhaps it would be best to wait until rush is over before sharing the story?

Good luck!

this could be good.

it'll be better with rundowns of outfits and themes. jk jk.

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1889147)

this could be good.

it'll be better with rundowns of outfits and themes. jk jk.

Only if he wears pink sequined panty hose.

Forget rush, you should wait until pledgeship is over.

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889049)

Also my dad offered to buy me a new car, if i gave his another chance, so of course i can't pass that up....

The only thing that's obvious is you inherited your character and sense of values from your dear old dad. New car > racist brothers > your best friend

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889049)

I of course recieve a bid but my best friend doesn't. Literally right before i sign my bid, i casusally ask them why my friend didnt recieve one. One of the guys simply told me because he's arab and some of the alumni wouldn't like it, but he was a pretty cool guy. I was beyond furious. I end up getting into a big arguement with some of the brothers for this blatent racism. I call my dad, he and some other inluential alumini come to the house to discuss the matters. After about an hour and a half of talking to me they still won't change their minds because "thats just how things are, around here". My own father agreed with them.

Seriously? If I heard my chapter or any chapter I was close to was pulling this kind of shit I would descend upon like the wrath of God. Instead he is agreeing with them? Great role model.

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1889175)

The only thing that's obvious is you inherited your character and sense of values from your dear old dad. New car > racist brothers > your best friend

Yeah the fact that you are even considering joining a group that would shun somebody you are close to just for the color of his skin is kind of icky.

Sorry I don't mean to get offensive but please don't make comments about my father. He grew up in a different time and this is a "traditionally southern fraternity". With regards to my value system, the only reason I am considering them again is because of the expectation my dad has. I owe it to him atleast to reconsider them. This fraternity is a big part of his life.

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1889123)

Not to mention the possibility of figuring out exactly who greek22 is, given the references to his father, his best friend and the declined bid.

Perhaps it would be best to wait until rush is over before sharing the story?

Good luck!

And hometown.

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Originally Posted by annabella (Post 1889162)

Forget rush, you should wait until pledgeship is over.

Good point. Many fraternities have a second vote prior to initiation regarding membership. If anything you might happen to say in this thread rubs any of the brothers wrong, it could hurt you in the long run. Especially if it only takes one "no" vote.

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889191)

Sorry I don't mean to get offensive but please don't make comments about my father.

Not to be offensive either, but you did bring it up as part of your backstory. You can't expect people not to react to that.

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With regards to my value system, the only reason I am considering them again is because of the expectation my dad has. I owe it to him atleast to reconsider them. This fraternity is a big part of his life.

That all may be true, but you also pointed out that your dad offered to buy you a new car if you give his fraternity another chance, and because you said you can't pass that up, your father's expectations can't be the only reason you're considering them again.

I'm not trying to argue with you, but if you don't want folks to share their opinions with you on subjects like those, you should carefully weigh what you type before you type it.

All that said, I wish you much luck at rush and hope you have a good experience. I've been to your hometown several times, as my husband has family there- it's a very pretty town.

I'm not defending/attacking anyone, but I just want to point out that we don't really know what happened during this chapter's membership selection, there may have been a legitimate reason they did not extend this man a bid that they didn't feeling like sharing with Random Legacy #5...

[QUOTE=greek22;1889049]So there's a little back story to my recruitment. I go to a sec school and personally I was not interested in greek life at the beginning of the semester. However my father is really big on it. President of alumni in the area, goes to events and retreats etc. Plus I'm from Jackson ms, so going greek is a must if you're from there. At the beginning of fall semester I pretty much already knew which fraternity i was going to be in. Talked to them all summer, went ot a couple of their parties they already felt like brothers before school started. So i go through recruitment, I go to this house exclusively, i also bring my best friend who wasn't big on greek life but came out anyway. So to make a long story short bid day came around. I of course recieve a bid but my best friend doesn't. Literally right before i sign my bid, i casusally ask them why my friend didnt recieve one. One of the guys simply told me because he's arab and some of the alumni wouldn't like it, but he was a pretty cool guy. I was beyond furious. I end up getting into a big arguement with some of the brothers for this blatent racism. I call my dad, he and some other inluential alumini come to the house to discuss the matters. After about an hour and a half of talking to me they still won't change their minds because "thats just how things are, around here". My own father agreed with them. So i didn't sign my bid and was simply disgusted by the thought of greek life.... But throughout the semester I was actively recruited by 3 to 4 fraternities who all seem pretty cool. So i decided to give it one more shot. Also my dad offered to buy me a new car, if i gave his another chance, so of course i can't pass that up.... Side note after reading stories on here in my opinion fraternity recruitment is harder because your arent shuffled around to every house, you actually have to go out of your way and meet the guys. Anyway wish me luck here are my top 5 so far without going through recruitment, maybe more will be adeded later we will see.

when you've visited 16 houses wearing 3 inch heels, then we'll see! good luck to you.

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1889250)

when you've visited 16 houses wearing 3 inch heels, then we'll see! good luck to you.

Touché! :D

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889191)

Sorry I don't mean to get offensive but please don't make comments about my father. He grew up in a different time and this is a "traditionally southern fraternity".

About the "traditional southern fraternity," once again, discretion is your friend.

And about growing up in a different time, since you're college-aged, I'm going to guess your father and I are the same generation (Baby Boomers, latter half of the Boom). That growing-up-in-a-different-time excuse is the one my parents (depression-era Southerners) used about their parents (the grandchildren of Confederate soldiers). Sorry, but it's a lame excuse to make for anyone who's not closing in on at least 70 now. That's not a comment about your father; it's a comment about what you've said about your father.

If you hadn't mentioned your father in the first place, people would not have commented.

HINT.

You should not be posting with regards to rush. It's not hard to put puzzle pieces like this together. I'm almost calling troll at this point.

I think I'll heed some advice on here and wait until after bid day to write about what happens. You're right I've divulged too much information

I'm glad you may share some of your story with us eventually. You're right, fraternity recruitment stories are rare.
I agree that it will likely be best to wait until pledgeship is over. Best of luck to you.

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889399)

I think I'll heed some advice on here and wait until after bid day to write about what happens. You're right I've divulged too much information

Damn! I was hoping for a trainwreck! Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1890432)

Damn! I was hoping for a trainwreck! Good luck!

LOL! I thought I saw a trainwreck coming too... oh well, I actually want to hear this story:D

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1889284)

My parents are 70 and it's a lame excuse even for their cohort.

They have seen and experienced a great deal in their lifetime and only socially and mentally isolated people (educated or not) would keep using "the old way" as an excuse for what I think the OP is alluding to.

So the first day of recruitment was on Monday. You go to a meeting and then meet all the fraternities at once in a room. I was advised by numerous fraternities not to show up because it was kind of lame. I showed up anyway and introduced myself to all five fraternities i was interested in. I also met a really cool guy and he introduced me to a newer fraternity and all the guys there were pretty cool and chill too. So add pink to the list. So a small overview
Red (Dad's fraternity)
Blue (Uncles's fraternity)
Green
Orange (My favorite so far, actively recruited me)
Black
Pink

Tuesday i set out trying to narrow it down to four fraternities. The one thing people advise you is to go out to alot of fraternities, but spend the most time with your favorites after a while.
Blue-First fraternity I went to because they were the closest. I had a good time here. But, I felt like they were trying to impress me by talking about their parties and crazy times they had. I wanted to hear about their brotherhood and philanthropy and i think they may of talked about those two things a total of ten seconds. I got invited to their party that night though.
Green- A solid fraternity from what I heard from some of my friends. I don't really know what happened. I kind of just walked in, then walked out without talking to anybody. They didnt look horrible or anything, I just felt i was missing something as I walked in. I dont know what, it just didnt feel right.
Black-I met some of the funniest guys in this one. They were all hilarious and I had a great time. The only thing was they seemed like they didn't have as many brothers around like the others did. I got invited to their party that night too.
Pink-The newest fraternity around but they all seemed really cool. They talked about brotherhood and intramurals, which I was very interested in. The only problem here was that they got no sorority to be with that night. I asked them about it and they said their social chair waited too long or something, but I kind of got a feeling they weren't that popular with sororities. No party that night.
Red-When I walked in I was a little bit scared it may be a little awkward. But, I had a good time, the guys were all cool. I also noticed they were very nice to the sorority girls the whole night, and i was impressed by that. I got invited to their party that night.
Orange-I was met down the street by a brother and was walked to the house. This was probably the only time the whole night I had a one on one time with a brother. Anyways after a five minute talk, by the time we got to the house the guy was on the verge of tears, expressing his love for his fraternity. I guess its just me but i personally loved this. I felt like it was something they were proud of. I got invited to their party that night too.

I went to Orange, Red and Blue's parties. Blue was definitely the best, but overall i had a great time at all of them. The next day i just decided to cut Green

Love hearing a fraternity rush story. What happened to Black though? You said they had a party too.

Can't wait to hear more!

I couldn't go to all the parties and theirs was the farthest away

Lovin the story so far.

In my opinion as long as getting a car doesn't require him to join his dad's fraternity, and just means he has to give them a chance, he would be stupid not to.

Who knows maybe things will change (unlikely).
And his dad already knows how he feels about his fraternity.
I have a feeling your dad's gonna pull a fast one on you.
Hope not.

On an aside,
how does Bid Day work in most SEC schools?
Are you given the bid by the fraternity in person?
Are you mailed your bids?
Do you get put in a room with yoru bids presented to you and you have to choose one?

I'm very curious about this.

Most SEC schools do rush during the spring of your senior year and then the proceeding summer. You can be given a bid anytime during that process. Most schools also require a formal rush sometime in late August during which a handful of guys will be given bids. Formal rush is really for guys who are out of town or working all summer and cannot attend rush events, or guys who know don't know enough about the system to know to go in the summer.

As far as the actual bids being given out: After a rushee has met enough guys and everyone has an impression of him, a vote will take place. If he passes, he will likely be invited to a party and at some point will be secluded from the party and extended a bid. This actual process varies from fraternity to fraternity and school to school. If the bid is accepted it usually results in a beer shower.

Also, it's a sad but true fact that most large southern fraternities are unlikely to give a bid to a foreigner or minority. It has been done, but it's rare. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

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Originally Posted by deepsouth (Post 1891392)

Don't hate the players, hate the game.

:confused: maybe im misunderstanding, but to me that quote is used when something is just a by product or passively happens as a result. what im saying is that the members of the org are the ones that actively choose not to recruit a minority, so i just don't think this quote fits here.

So Rush starts the spring of your last high school year?
That's intense.

Here, where Greek Life is maybe 1% of the population, granted it is a large school, sometimes rush don't even realize they are being rushed until we invite them to something smaller like a social or something.

So I don't know if this is common at other universities but at mine sororities can get a guy cut from a certain fraternity. If they fill he's creepy or doesn't fit the profile of a certain fraternity they tell them. So during the parties you have to be careful, have fun, flirt a little, while not overstepping your boundaries. Anyway Wednesday during the day, I get a text from call from red, orange, pink, blue and black all inviting me back that night. During lunch though i talked to a couple of my sorority friends and told them i was considering pink. Every last one of them said they couldn't see me in this fraternity. That I didn't look or talk like them. Also they said they never partied with them nor had any events with them. So I don't really think it was due to peer pressure, maybe more realizing what they were talking about I decided to cut pink. So that night i changed up the order a little bit.
Orange- I had a great time here once again. Got to know alot of more people due to their being less rushees. I loved being here and got invited to their party that night.
Black-Again the funniest guys I've ever met. Plus all the girls at their event said they loved hanging out with these guys and they were all cool. First time I asked around i got no negative opinions about a certain fraternity. Got invited to their party
Blue-I was having a great time here, until one guy invited to his room to drink a little bit. I don't know it rubbed me the wrong way. I guess i was trying to keep an open mind and not believe their reputation as a party all the time fraternity, but they continued to validate this stereotype. Got invited to their party
Red-Went here last because this was their alumni night, so of course dad was there. Surprisingly though had a really really good time. Heard some stories about my dad that I never knew and just had a good time. They didn't have a party that night. But had an after meet and greet with the alumni.

So i went to red first, had a good time. I knew alot of alumni so i didnt stay that long. I went to Black after and had a blast. It seems like everyone was having fun and it was hard to see who was a rushee and who was a brother because they just seemed to accept everybody. Blue, stopped by didnt stay long it was kind of late, but the sorority they were with that night. Every girl in there was beautiful, so I was rather impressed by that. Didnt get to make it to Orange stayed at Black alot that night, but I sent them a text still showing my interest.

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889049)

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889191)

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1889399)

I think I'll heed some advice on here and wait until after bid day to write about what happens. You're right I've divulged too much information

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1891214)

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1891222)

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1891229)

I couldn't go to all the parties and theirs was the farthest away

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1891466)

So I don't know if this is common at other universities but at mine sororities can get a guy cut from a certain fraternity. If they fill he's creepy or doesn't fit the profile of a certain fraternity they tell them. So during the parties you have to be careful, have fun, flirt a little, while not overstepping your boundaries. Anyway Wednesday during the day, I get a text from call from red, orange, pink, blue and black all inviting me back that night. During lunch though i talked to a couple of my sorority friends and told them i was considering pink. Every last one of them said they couldn't see me in this fraternity. That I didn't look or talk like them. Also they said they never partied with them nor had any events with them. So I don't really think it was due to peer pressure, maybe more realizing what they were talking about I decided to cut pink. So that night i changed up the order a little bit.
Orange- I had a great time here once again. Got to know alot of more people due to their being less rushees. I loved being here and got invited to their party that night.
Black-Again the funniest guys I've ever met. Plus all the girls at their event said they loved hanging out with these guys and they were all cool. First time I asked around i got no negative opinions about a certain fraternity. Got invited to their party
Blue-I was having a great time here, until one guy invited to his room to drink a little bit. I don't know it rubbed me the wrong way. I guess i was trying to keep an open mind and not believe their reputation as a party all the time fraternity, but they continued to validate this stereotype. Got invited to their party
Red-Went here last because this was their alumni night, so of course dad was there. Surprisingly though had a really really good time. Heard some stories about my dad that I never knew and just had a good time. They didn't have a party that night. But had an after meet and greet with the alumni.

So i went to red first, had a good time. I knew alot of alumni so i didnt stay that long. I went to Black after and had a blast. It seems like everyone was having fun and it was hard to see who was a rushee and who was a brother because they just seemed to accept everybody. Blue, stopped by didnt stay long it was kind of late, but the sorority they were with that night. Every girl in there was beautiful, so I was rather impressed by that. Didnt get to make it to Orange stayed at Black alot that night, but I sent them a text still showing my interest.

Easier for me to read this way ;)

I'm just wow at this. You complained one fraternity turned you off because they didn't talk about anything but partying. Yet you dropped a fraternity you got along with because they didn't do events with the sororities. I'm sorry dude, but it sounds like you are interested in going Greek for all the wrong reasons .

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 1891500)

I didn't want to join a fraternity, in where they're not close they just get together and party 24/7. But then again if I do party I am a guy and a would like for their to be girls there. Sorry most guys like having girls at parties.

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Originally Posted by greek22 (Post 1891507)

I didn't want to join a fraternity, in where they're not close they just get together and party 24/7. But then again if I do party I am a heterosexual guy and a would like for there to be girls there. Sorry heterosexual guys like having girls at parties.

fixed that for you

I like reading a rare fraternity live recruitment. The OP is just too detailed and has typed a couple of things that should've been unsaid.