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aspiringchica08 01-25-2010 05:45 AM

Denied...Denied...Accepted?
 
Hey Ladies!

My roommates and I were having a discussion regarding NPHC orgs and one roommate is an interest of 'ABC' sorority. She applied for membership during Spr. 08...however, she was not accepted. She definitely intends to try again next time, but we were wondering if she were denied again...and again the next time...and again another time... would she eventually be accepted?

I realize that if they had to have denied her membership for some reason or another, (i.e. grades, com. service [or lack therof], etc] but once everything was "up to par" with even the MINIMUM requirements of that org and after years of trying ...would she eventually be accepted even if she had to go through an alumnae chapter?

I hope this question makes a little sense, LOL. If not, I can try to clarify...and if REALLY not then...I'll hang my head in shame.

DrPhil 01-25-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aspiringchica08 (Post 1888999)
Hey Ladies!

My roommates and I were having a discussion regarding NPHC orgs and one roommate is an interest of 'ABC' sorority. She applied for membership during Spr. 08...however, she was not accepted. She definitely intends to try again next time, but we were wondering if she were denied again...and again the next time...and again another time... would she eventually be accepted?

I realize that if they had to have denied her membership for some reason or another, (i.e. grades, com. service [or lack therof], etc] but once everything was "up to par" with even the MINIMUM requirements of that org and after years of trying ...would she eventually be accepted even if she had to go through an alumnae chapter?

I hope this question makes a little sense, LOL. If not, I can try to clarify...and if REALLY not then...I'll hang my head in shame.

Your question makes sense but it's still dumb.

aspiringchica08 01-25-2010 12:01 PM

Hm..okay thanks!

33girl 01-25-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aspiringchica08 (Post 1888999)
I realize that if they had to have denied her membership for some reason or another, (i.e. grades, com. service [or lack therof], etc] but once everything was "up to par" with even the MINIMUM requirements of that org and after years of trying ...would she eventually be accepted even if she had to go through an alumnae chapter?

Do you typically go to restaurants, buy clothing, and date men that only meet your MINIMUM requirements? (It's edible, it fits, it has a penis)

Sorry ladies, that just stuck out at me. Going back to my lane :)

aspiringchica08 01-25-2010 01:25 PM

Thanks for your response...

What I meant by that was I know that orgs do not want to accept membership of an aspirant who meets only minumim req.

But when I said everything was "up to par...even with minimum req.", I can't say what up to par may mean with that particular org. To a NG, it may mean one thing and something totally different to a Greek. So I just said even the minimum to say that she has at least done comm. service, has good academics, things of that sort.

DrPhil 01-25-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1889040)
Your question makes sense but it's still dumb.

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Ch2tf 01-25-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aspiringchica08 (Post 1888999)
Hey Ladies!
I realize that if they had to have denied her membership for some reason or another, (i.e. grades, com. service [or lack therof], etc] but once everything was "up to par" with even the MINIMUM requirements of that org and after years of trying ...would she eventually be accepted even if she had to go through an alumnae chapter?

If everything isn't up to par right NOW why is she even applying at this time???

Spinderella 01-25-2010 02:20 PM

Aspiringchica08, NPHC organizations expect applicants to keep applying as many times as necessary. The more you apply, the more it looks like 'its in your heart'.

The rejection takes over as basically a mind game that applicants are somehow, missing something from their lives if they don't keep trying harder to be a member. The rejection also is supposed to make applicants hold dear, the principles of lifetime commitment, since it took alot of 'work and rejection' to become a member.

Amazing how grad chapters may boast having 500 members/200 financial members, yet the lifetime commitment of service is only carried out by 50 members. What happened to the other 450???

DrPhil 01-25-2010 02:27 PM

:rolleyes: Those were not words of wisdom. Be quiet.

Senusret I 01-25-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinderella (Post 1889073)
Aspiringchica08, NPHC organizations expect applicants to keep applying as many times as necessary.

That's crazy talk.

MexicanMami0286 01-25-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinderella (Post 1889073)
Amazing how grad chapters may boast having 500 members/200 financial members, yet the lifetime commitment of service is only carried out by 50 members. What happened to the other 450???

Umm. And what did this have to do with her question? :confused:

ladygreek 01-25-2010 05:09 PM

Spinderella has a point--and she would know. Personally I don't know anyone who hadn't been denied at least twice before being accepted into their org of choice. It took me four tries. And although she probably won't admit it, Dr. Phil shared with me that it took her three times.

tld221 01-25-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1889144)
Spinderella has a point--and she would know. Personally I don't know anyone who hadn't been denied at least twice before being accepted into their org of choice. It took me four tries. And although she probably won't admit it, Dr. Phil shared with me that it took her three times.

Only 3-4 times? It mustve been in your heart, deep in your heart.

aspiringchica08 01-25-2010 07:09 PM

Thanks Spinderella and ladygreek...and everyone else!

Ch2tf...as far as I thought everything was up to par for her...but I am not a part of that org, nor am I greek... She had a 3.0 GPA and involved in many clubs around our campus which allows her to perform community service...

So let's say if she'd done 30 hours of community service and was active in 3 clubs...got that 3.0 GPA... but didn't get accepted...

The org could say 30 hours is not enough...or 3 clubs is not enough...a 3.0 is not high enough. I doubt think they told her why she didn't get it.. but I would be concerned about things like that. Not something that won't really change like the type of person that you are when you are at Rush or wherever (if you aren't acting a certain way for them to 'like you').

aspiringchica08 01-25-2010 07:13 PM

Jen,

I think that it could go either way depending on who the person is...

If they got denied the first time and finally made it...they might look at someone who makes it first try and feel like they can look down on them because of not having to go through the experience of proving themselves.

But if one were accepted the first time around...they might look at someone who makes it the first try as if they are of high caliber...

But I think it depends on the type of person he/she is and things of that nature.

DrPhil 01-25-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1889144)
Spinderella has a point--and she would know. Personally I don't know anyone who hadn't been denied at least twice before being accepted into their org of choice. It took me four tries. And although she probably won't admit it, Dr. Phil shared with me that it took her three times.

:rolleyes: This is why I can't confide in you. Mouth almighty!!!!

DrPhil 01-25-2010 07:22 PM

Uh...so...aspiringchica...long story short, we don't know whether you will ever get accepted. Rejection happens for a reason. Take that however you choose.

rhoyaltempest 01-25-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinderella (Post 1889073)
Aspiringchica08, NPHC organizations expect applicants to keep applying as many times as necessary. The more you apply, the more it looks like 'its in your heart'.

The rejection takes over as basically a mind game that applicants are somehow, missing something from their lives if they don't keep trying harder to be a member. The rejection also is supposed to make applicants hold dear, the principles of lifetime commitment, since it took alot of 'work and rejection' to become a member.

Amazing how grad chapters may boast having 500 members/200 financial members, yet the lifetime commitment of service is only carried out by 50 members. What happened to the other 450???

Since you can't possibly have been exposed to thousands of members in hundreds of chapters across the U.S. and beyond, your personal experience (on the outside looking in of course) means nothing. Perhaps the members that you know personally would be the best persons to answer your questions. Right now you just sound like a typical hater and the worst kind; the kind that thinks they know (swears they know) when they don't. You should explore why that is. Rejection maybe?

aspiringchica08 01-26-2010 04:37 AM

@ DrPhil

This question really was not for me...! I have not tried to go through with any part of any process yet... I am nervous as heck even thinking about it...

One of my roomies and I are actually interested in the same org, while another is interested in something different.

Thanks everyone again for responses =] I am appreciative!

mccoyred 01-26-2010 08:13 AM

What is the point of the original question? Whenever any transaction happens, the circumstances are unique therefore, the same transaction happening at a different time has different circumstances and could potentially have a different outcome. Move on to more meaningful questions like "What tone and message will President Obama convey in his SoTU address tomorrow night and will it make a difference?"

DrPhil 01-26-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred (Post 1889372)
Move on to more meaningful questions like "What tone and message will President Obama convey in his SoTU address tomorrow night and will it make a difference?"

Thanks for the warning. :) I pray there's something good on TV.

aspiringchica08 01-26-2010 11:05 PM

@McCoyRed...

Well, I did just want to know.. but I definitely think about meaningful questions... This situation with Haiti has been a topic of interest as of late

thank you for your response !! =]


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