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sig delt girl 01-18-2010 03:41 PM

Sorority family or line names
 
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Senusret I 01-18-2010 03:59 PM

Why do you need to branch off? Do you have a Big?

thetygerlily 01-18-2010 04:20 PM

You should probably keep it in line with the rest of your chapter- e.g. if they all use animals, use an animal name. If it were me I'd want to pay some respect to the split line and make it something related to the original line. Related, but separate. Might be hard for people to give you any further suggestions without knowing how your chapter currently names them.

Psi U MC Vito 01-18-2010 04:37 PM

I still don't understand this. This make it seem like your current family isn't good enough for you. Do you have like a ridculous amount of littles or something?

GTAlphaPhi 01-18-2010 05:20 PM

I'm personally a little confused/questioning about the desire to branch off. That being said, a family name should come from something that has a special meaning to the girls involved, or even an inside joke. Some ideas off the top of my head are:

1) Favorite catchphrase
(A dear Phi Mu friend would end any affirmative statement with "You know it!")

2) Movie, book, or TV show that you all love or feel like the characters represent you
("Golden Girls", "Sex and the City", "Seinfeld", whatever.)

3) Something that reminds you of some hilarious incident

4) Song or song lyrics

Good luck to you and your sisters.

33girl 01-18-2010 09:18 PM

This isn't the Mafia where you get your own family after you whack enough people & have enough territory. Leaving your old family and creating a completely new one - even if your big has left school/graduated - is an incredibly disrespectful idea and bound to create TONS of hurt feelings. If you want to change up some of the traditions (like song or name) do that, but you don't need to disassociate yourself from your family line.

***SMH***

Senusret I 01-18-2010 09:26 PM

^^^^ I pretty much agree with this.

In my APO chapter (which has family trees) we do have a tree which is pretty much humongous. It didn't "break" into two trees, but more like became two branches with different traditions.

My own family tree has three active branches. We have our tree traditions and then our branch traditions, which often are nothing more than similar themed nicknames. (On my branch, we all have military related names)

OHNOITSJESS 01-18-2010 09:35 PM

I'm on the alpha class, and the rest of the alpha class founders chose names that mean something to them, or are science and engineering related, one is just random
IE: My family line is the Hepburns' because i love Audrey and Katherine, while we also have one thats the Swoosh, based off the Nike sign

LatinaAlumna 01-18-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1886522)
This isn't the Mafia where you get your own family after you whack enough people & have enough territory.

I almost spit out my soda when I saw this. :)

I agree with your post. I don't understand why someone would want to split off. :confused:

stargirl007 01-18-2010 09:46 PM

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jf_eighty9 01-19-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1886522)
This isn't the Mafia where you get your own family after you whack enough people & have enough territory. Leaving your old family and creating a completely new one - even if your big has left school/graduated - is an incredibly disrespectful idea and bound to create TONS of hurt feelings. If you want to change up some of the traditions (like song or name) do that, but you don't need to disassociate yourself from your family line.

***SMH***

There are different reasons as to why she would want to branch off whether it's because her family is the largest in the house or the fact that maybe she and her big don't get along (yes, it DOES happen, I've seen it!).

33girl 01-19-2010 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jf_eighty9 (Post 1886613)
There are different reasons as to why she would want to branch off whether it's because her family is the largest in the house or the fact that maybe she and her big don't get along (yes, it DOES happen, I've seen it!).

If her family is the largest and she or her big has multiple littles, eventually the family will look like a tree with branches. Most trees don't grow straight up. Like Sen said, different branches turn into their own little mini-families, while still keeping the line intact.

Also, "I don't get along with my big" is NOT an acceptable reason to end a whole family line. Not everyone is going to be BFFs with their big or little - it happens - but there's nothing that says the only people you're allowed to hang out with is your family. If there IS, then that's a chapter problem and it isn't going to be solved by letting people make "new families" whenever the mood strikes them.

Plus the OP didn't even say that they didn't get along, just that her big would be gone and she thought "it would be fun." Again, SMH.

LatinaAlumna 01-19-2010 12:06 PM

It just sounds like OP wants to start her own clique within the chapter with matching shirts/etc.--not good.

In my sorority, the individual "big/lil" relationship is where the emphasis is placed (not on the "family tree"). This may be because some "family trees" run across several chapters, depending on the case (mine does). In any case, we would not break from the tradition of choosing your "own" group of sorority members to create a "family."

AOII Angel 01-19-2010 12:42 PM

I personally do not see what the bid deal is. Unless the "Family Tree" is a part of your Inter/national tradition, it's open to change. All of this stuff is made up on the fly and can be adapted to suit the needs of the chapter and its members. It sounds like everyone in her chapter basically fits into one of four "families" and she wants a smaller family unit. In chapters that have just one little sis per member, you would have lots of small families. I can't imagine how a chapter would all be in one of four. Probably the best way to go about this would be to get other sisters to latch onto the idea of making mini-families within each family so there won't be any hurt feelings.

tld221 01-19-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna (Post 1886742)
It just sounds like OP wants to start her own clique within the chapter with matching shirts/etc.--not good.

In my sorority, the individual "big/lil" relationship is where the emphasis is placed (not on the "family tree"). This may be because some "family trees" run across several chapters, depending on the case (mine does). In any case, we would not break from the tradition of choosing your "own" group of sorority members to create a "family."

sounds like a random sub-strain of founderitis.

i actually dont understand how family trees work, im just concerned with my spec/"big" (i havent spec-ed anyone so no littles over here).

33girl 01-19-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1886761)
I personally do not see what the bid deal is. Unless the "Family Tree" is a part of your Inter/national tradition, it's open to change. All of this stuff is made up on the fly and can be adapted to suit the needs of the chapter and its members. It sounds like everyone in her chapter basically fits into one of four "families" and she wants a smaller family unit. In chapters that have just one little sis per member, you would have lots of small families. I can't imagine how a chapter would all be in one of four. Probably the best way to go about this would be to get other sisters to latch onto the idea of making mini-families within each family so there won't be any hurt feelings.

The way you could end up w/ 4 big families is if some lines died off because of people transferring or terminating before taking littles, and another line thriving - Susie takes 2 littles, each of her littles takes 2 littles, and so on. Think of it as Jacob vs. Esau. LOL. If I get ambitious, I'll put up a pic of our chapter tree.

If families are as disposable as this post implies, a chapter probably shouldn't have them at all. But that's a CHAPTER decision, not for one person to make.

AOII Angel 01-19-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1886779)
The way you could end up w/ 4 big families is if some lines died off because of people transferring or terminating before taking littles, and another line thriving - Susie takes 2 littles, each of her littles takes 2 littles, and so on. Think of it as Jacob vs. Esau. LOL. If I get ambitious, I'll put up a pic of our chapter tree.

If families are as disposable as this post implies, a chapter probably shouldn't have them at all. But that's a CHAPTER decision, not for one person to make.

Yeah, but it seems like such a inconsequential thing to take so seriously. Is this a backlash against some organizations not allowing Big/Lil sisters? We had families, but they were very fluid over time. I knew mine back 8 generations, but when my grand big's second little sister decided to get different shirts one year for her wing of the family, it was no big deal. When I got my third little sis and they ran out of the plaid that we'd picked for my second little's shirts for her little sis, I got something completely different. Sometimes the relationships have to trump the silly traditions.

I agree that the chapter needs to be okay with the change...if she is the only one that wants to do this, then she may be SOL. That's why I suggested she talk to other sisters to see if they all may want to make mini-families out of the bigger families, still recognizing the larger relationships.

ThetaDancer 01-19-2010 01:30 PM

OP, have you talked with your Big and other family members about this? I think it would look really shady if you didn't say anything to anyone (except random people on the internet), waited for your Big to graduate, and then tried to start your own family. I think it may be interpreted as disrespectful, even if that's not how you intended it.

thetygerlily 01-19-2010 01:53 PM

My chapter went through a major growth period, more than tripling the size of the chapter. Because some of the original members took two littles and others took one, we wound up with very lopsided families a couple of years later- half the chapter was in one line, while the smallest family had just 2. We did a chapter family reorg to equalize things and make them more scalable for the future. We didn't create things from scratch or anything, but separated branches to equalize a bit. It wasn't exactly equal, but it was better for everyone. I'm sure there will always be larger or smaller trees, and some may die off.

Moral of the story, I think there are valid reasons for branching off- but IMHO it should be for the sake of the entire chapter and not the sake of the individual.

33girl 01-19-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1886783)
Yeah, but it seems like such a inconsequential thing to take so seriously. Is this a backlash against some organizations not allowing Big/Lil sisters? We had families, but they were very fluid over time. I knew mine back 8 generations, but when my grand big's second little sister decided to get different shirts one year for her wing of the family, it was no big deal. When I got my third little sis and they ran out of the plaid that we'd picked for my second little's shirts for her little sis, I got something completely different. Sometimes the relationships have to trump the silly traditions.

I agree that the chapter needs to be okay with the change...if she is the only one that wants to do this, then she may be SOL. That's why I suggested she talk to other sisters to see if they all may want to make mini-families out of the bigger families, still recognizing the larger relationships.

Our families never made a huge deal of this matching shirt business...we tried to get everyone in a family the same sweatshirt and lavalier, but if the store was out, no biggie. I feel like you're getting the shirts etc confused w/ what a big really does - mentors you when you first become part of the sorority. That shouldn't be tossed aside so lightly, and that is EXACTLY what the OP wants to do. Like LatinaAlumna said, it sounds like she just wants to make her own little clique with matching shirts, and that's NOT what families are supposed to be.

I mean, my mom passed away, and I didn't go out and get a new one just so I had someone to send a Mother's Day card to.

AOII Angel 01-19-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1886808)
Our families never made a huge deal of this matching shirt business...we tried to get everyone in a family the same sweatshirt and lavalier, but if the store was out, no biggie. I feel like you're getting the shirts etc confused w/ what a big really does - mentors you when you first become part of the sorority. That shouldn't be tossed aside so lightly, and that is EXACTLY what the OP wants to do. Like LatinaAlumna said, it sounds like she just wants to make her own little clique with matching shirts, and that's NOT what families are supposed to be.

I mean, my mom passed away, and I didn't go out and get a new one just so I had someone to send a Mother's Day card to.

I understand the whole Big sister thing, but the families IMHO are basically inconsequential. It's another way to segregate a chapter. What difference does it make if you are related to some other person in a chapter because your big sister's big sis' big sis' was Suzie's big sis too? That's the deal with families that I think get blown out of proportion. You're Big Sister is your mentor and is the important relationship then your Little Sister below you. The rest is extra.

tld221 01-19-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1886808)
I mean, my mom passed away, and I didn't go out and get a new one just so I had someone to send a Mother's Day card to.

This.

33girl 01-19-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1886820)
I understand the whole Big sister thing, but the families IMHO are basically inconsequential. It's another way to segregate a chapter. What difference does it make if you are related to some other person in a chapter because your big sister's big sis' big sis' was Suzie's big sis too? That's the deal with families that I think get blown out of proportion. You're Big Sister is your mentor and is the important relationship then your Little Sister below you. The rest is extra.

And if someone IS your mentor...does it not make sense to know who the people are who filled that need for them? Doesn't it make you feel good to see someone inspired by your little? Isn't it kind of neat to go back 5 years and see that you and your roommate are two branches of the same family? It's a fun thing to do that keeps the creeping homogenization and urge to business-fy out of our chapters.

If having family dinners at the most 4 times a year (initiation and big/little night) constituted "segregation" - that's IMO overly insensitive. Again, if a chapter wants to clique-ify itself - by pledge class, by family, by living space, by class year - that's a problem within the chapter that needs to be addressed. Hate the player not the game.

AOII Angel 01-19-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1886954)
And if someone IS your mentor...does it not make sense to know who the people are who filled that need for them? Doesn't it make you feel good to see someone inspired by your little? Isn't it kind of neat to go back 5 years and see that you and your roommate are two branches of the same family? It's a fun thing to do that keeps the creeping homogenization and urge to business-fy out of our chapters.

If having family dinners at the most 4 times a year (initiation and big/little night) constituted "segregation" - that's IMO overly insensitive. Again, if a chapter wants to clique-ify itself - by pledge class, by family, by living space, by class year - that's a problem within the chapter that needs to be addressed. Hate the player not the game.

No...I agree with you, but if the entire chapter fits into a family, how special is it anyway? I love my AOII family to this day and am very close to my Great 5 grand big sis. However, if a quarter of the chapter is related to me, how is that different than just being sisters? If each sister gets one little sis, then families would only be a few members in size. This is what I am reading into the OPs initial question. She wants a smaller mentor group, not half the chapter that in some bizarre way is part of your family (though most people probably don't even know how.)

33girl 01-19-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1886524)
In my APO chapter (which has family trees) we do have a tree which is pretty much humongous. It didn't "break" into two trees, but more like became two branches with different traditions.

My own family tree has three active branches. We have our tree traditions and then our branch traditions, which often are nothing more than similar themed nicknames. (On my branch, we all have military related names)

This.

Making your branch's own traditions - OK. Telling your big "you're not my big anymore" and starting a new family - not OK.


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