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Senusret I 01-12-2010 07:01 PM

7.3 Earthquake hits Haiti; Tsunami feared
 
Substantial damages and casualties are expected following the quake, which measured 7.3 on the Richter scale, and two powerful aftershocks which followed.


A hospital and a three-storey building in Petionville have reportedly collapsed.


A reporter for the AFP agency said a tractor was already at the scene trying to dig out victims as people fled onto the streets of the impoverished country in panic.


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...sunami_Warning

dreamseeker 01-12-2010 07:32 PM

this is awful. haiti is already a poverty stricken country. i hope that they get a good deal of aid.

Gusteau 01-12-2010 09:15 PM

One of my pledge brothers is Haitian, he goes back to visit family over breaks. I thought he was already back in the country but he's still there. None of us have been able to get in touch with him (which could be expected in such a disaster, but...) Please keep him and his family in your thoughts and prayers.

GatorDG 01-12-2010 09:37 PM

My prayers are with everyone there. With a quake that large there will be aftershocks for months to come that might continue to cause damage.

dreamseeker 01-12-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 1884540)
One of my pledge brothers is Haitian, he goes back to visit family over breaks. I thought he was already back in the country but he's still there. None of us have been able to get in touch with him (which could be expected in such a disaster, but...) Please keep him and his family in your thoughts and prayers.

someone tweeted this info: you could try this. US State Dept phone line for US citizens wondering about family in Haiti 1-888-407-4747

kddani 01-13-2010 07:34 AM

How terrible. My parents are on a cruise right now, thankfully they were in Aruba yesterday and are in Curacao today, so they're some distance away. They got to visit Haiti on a cruise a few years back before it became really unstable and it was really not your typical cruise ship stop - they really liked it.

Those poor people.

MysticCat 01-13-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 1884540)
One of my pledge brothers is Haitian, he goes back to visit family over breaks. I thought he was already back in the country but he's still there. None of us have been able to get in touch with him (which could be expected in such a disaster, but...) Please keep him and his family in your thoughts and prayers.

Please let us know when you hear something.

We have connections with St. Joseph's Home for Boys in Port-au-Prince. Word came that it is now rubble, although it appears that most of the 50 or so who live there are safe; at last word, one was unaccounted for.

One of my most cherished possessions is a Haitian carving of Christ as the Good Shepherd. I bought it in Port-au-Prince when I was 17, and I've always loved the way the shepherd, who holds the sheep in his arms, and the sheep look at each other. I look at that lamb today and pray that the people of Haiti will be held.

epchick 01-13-2010 01:21 PM

My prayers go out to all the Haitian people as well as all the people from around the world who lived in Haiti as peacekeepers. My prayers also go out people in Taiwan and Spain who supposedly had many prominent buildings fall as well (although I don't know how they felt it that bad, but DR and Cuba didn't have any major damage).

Among the known dead (according to this article) are:
the Roman Catholic archbishop of Port-au-Prince
the United Nations' secretary-general's special envoy (although there are conflicting reports, some say he is dead while others say he is just 'missing')
11 peacekeepers from Brazil
3 peacekeepers from Jordan
8 peacekeepers from China


and apparently Haiti's Senate president is alive but trapped in the ruined Parliament building along with many others.

AGDee 01-13-2010 08:50 PM

Some links with more links for organizations that are providing aid for Haiti:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/01/13...e.how.to.help/
https://re.clintonfoundation.org/SSLPage.aspx?pid=3869

Per the last link, you can text HAITI to 20222 and $10 will be donated and will be billed to your cell phone account.

Can you imagine what a difference we could make if every adult in the US who is employed donated $10? I mean, what's $10? 3 Starbucks coffees, two long islands at the bar, the cover charge for one night at some bars, lunch out.

Gusteau 01-13-2010 08:57 PM

Thanks everyone, for your thoughts and prayers.

I just got word that my brother is OK and will be returning to the US soon!

AGDee 01-13-2010 08:59 PM

So glad to hear that!

Senusret I 01-13-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1884910)
Warning, need to vent.

For the record, I donated some money last night to the Red Cross. I joined a group on FB Senusret I joined and I figured the Red Cross would be the best agency I can trust with my money. Today at my work I helped pack boxes of medical supplies and medicines because 3 of our volunteers will be heading to help with relief efforts.

Today I posted a link for people to purchase commemorative LOST Fan Club t-shirts so they can get them in time for the premiere on the beach. One of my friends questioned me, saying: "Wouldn't you rather use the money for Haiti?"

I realize the people of Haiti are suffering and I won't ever forget how grateful I am to have the things I have. But no one has the right to criticize or question what the hell I do with my own damn money!!! :rolleyes:


I just read that -- that was reallllly irritating.

agzg 01-13-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1884910)
Warning, need to vent.

For the record, I donated some money last night to the Red Cross. I joined a group on FB Senusret I joined and I figured the Red Cross would be the best agency I can trust with my money. Today at my work I helped pack boxes of medical supplies and medicines because 3 of our volunteers will be heading to help with relief efforts.

Today I posted a link for people to purchase commemorative LOST Fan Club t-shirts so they can get them in time for the premiere on the beach. One of my friends questioned me, saying: "Wouldn't you rather use the money for Haiti?"

I realize the people of Haiti are suffering and I won't ever forget how grateful I am to have the things I have. But no one has the right to criticize or question what the hell I do with my own damn money!!! :rolleyes:

Grrrrrrrrr. Unless he has access to your checking account he has no way of knowing what you do with your money, and has no right to ask.

ETA: My neighbor upstairs is Haitian. She said that they're starting to make contact with family members, and most everyone is accounted for. Luckily enough, her grandmother visited NYC for the holidays (where my neighbor's parents live) and had not returned yet.

epchick 01-13-2010 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1884910)
Warning, need to vent.

Oh my, that's terrible! You are right though, no one has a right to tell you what to do with your hard-earned money. I wonder if that person even donated to help Haiti.

DaemonSeid 01-13-2010 10:07 PM

Ok...this doesn't deserve it's own thread but

Pat Robertson is an @SS

agzg 01-13-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1884934)
Ok...this doesn't deserve it's own thread but

Pat Robertson is an @SS

:rolleyes:

AGDee 01-14-2010 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1884931)
And that's the thing...I won't look down on anyone who decides not to give. If they can, great. If not, then that's their decision. People who give aren't better human beings than those who don't. They're just...more generous, I guess.

Agreed... or more able to give.

DaemonSeid 01-14-2010 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1884989)
Agreed... or more able to give.

As seen on Facebook...wink wink


"What I find most funny about the Robertson comment is that CNN was running basic facts about Haiti along the bottom of the screen all day, one of which was that 80% of them are Roman Catholics."

MysticCat 01-14-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1884934)
Ok...this doesn't deserve it's own thread but

Pat Robertson is an @SS

What an idiot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1885055)
As seen on Facebook...wink wink


"What I find most funny about the Robertson comment is that CNN was running basic facts about Haiti along the bottom of the screen all day, one of which was that 80% of them are Roman Catholics."

True, but . . .

a large segment of the population, while Catholic (or Protestant), also practices Vodou, especially in rural areas. It's interesting how people mix Christianity and Vodou and practice both at the same time, depsite disapproval of this from the Church.

I'm sure that in Robertson's limited understanding, Vodou = devil worship.

DaemonSeid 01-14-2010 11:47 AM

But it's a "proven fact" (according to him) that Haiti sold its collective soul to Satan and thus he is collecting payment.


Hehehehehehe......

Well, thanks to Western media we have everyone scared of vodou...

I blame some of this on James Bond and Wes Craven

Psi U MC Vito 01-14-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1885102)
But it's a "proven fact" (according to him) that Haiti sold its collective soul to Satan and thus he is collecting payment.


Hehehehehehe......

Well, thanks to Western media we have everyone scared of vodou...

I blame some of this on James Bond and Wes Craven

But doesn't vodou have quite a few Roman Catholic elements to it? At least that is what i remember reading a while back.

epchick 01-14-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 1885118)
But doesn't vodou have quite a few Roman Catholic elements to it? At least that is what i remember reading a while back.

Voodoo doesn't have Catholicism mixed in at all, it is its own entity. Voodoo came over with the African tribes during the times of slavery.

What the Haitians (and also Cubans, etc) do is mix the two. For example, some Cubans practice Santeria which is a mixture of Voodoo and Catholicism. I suspect many Haitians do the same, and have their own name for it.

MysticCat 01-14-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1885122)
Voodoo doesn't have Catholicism mixed in at all, it is its own entity. Voodoo came over with the African tribes during the times of slavery.

What the Haitians (and also Cubans, etc) do is mix the two. For example, some Cubans practice Santeria which is a mixture of Voodoo and Catholicism. I suspect many Haitians do the same, and have their own name for it.

Many Haitians do do the same, and they call it Vodou. The name distinction is not Voodoo and something else (like Santaria), it's West African Vodun and Haitian Vodou. (Vodun and Vodou both became Voodoo in English.)

And DS, you're right to blame James Bond.

Senusret I 01-14-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1885139)
Many Haitians do do the same, and they call it Vodou. The name distinction is not Voodoo and something else (like Santaria), it's West African Vodun and Haitian Vodou. (Vodun and Vodou both became Voodoo in English.)

One of the few subjects I'm pretty well versed in and you beat me to it. :(

jennyj87 01-14-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1884934)
Ok...this doesn't deserve it's own thread but

Pat Robertson is an @SS


WOW. :eek:

MysticCat 01-14-2010 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1885154)
One of the few subjects I'm pretty well versed in and you beat me to it. :(

Sorry. :o

I can go back and delete my post and then you can beat me to it.

DrPhil 01-14-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1885139)
Many Haitians do do the same, and they call it Vodou.

do do vodou. who do vodou.

the end.

DaemonSeid 01-15-2010 10:09 AM

Aristide hoping to return from exile

Jimmy Jean-Louis' parents found


and yes...another jackass speaks.

Guess who...

And a response

DaemonSeid 01-15-2010 12:49 PM

Sprint caught charging for texting to help Haiti, reverses course.

AGDee 01-16-2010 09:00 AM

I spent way too much time watching CNN yesterday. I get sucked into the non-stop coverage of this horrific tragedies and end up so incredibly depressed. I must stop. It's horrific beyond words. It makes me think that if something like that happened where I live, I'd almost rather NOT be one of the survivors. I simply cannot comprehend how people cope with these massive disasters.

Then, when I decide I can't take it anymore and have to change the channel, I think how lucky I am that all I have to do to escape it is change the channel. Then I feel guilty because those people cannot escape the nightmare that they are living.

DrPhil 01-16-2010 05:27 PM

And this is why the idea of text donating is so stupid to me.

christiangirl 01-16-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1885514)

I just assumed that addt'l charges would apply. They do for everything else. I'm glad for the retroactive exemption, though, that's a nice surprise.

Lasonja 01-17-2010 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1885782)
And this is why the idea of text donating is so stupid to me.

Why? A donation is a donation.

dreamseeker 01-17-2010 05:20 AM

Wyclef Jean Charity's Funny Money

his numbers don't seem to add up. AND, he posted negative assets in 2006 as well, not just 2007.

DrPhil 01-17-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1886019)
Wyclef Jean Charity's Funny Money

his numbers don't seem to add up. AND, he posted negative assets in 2006 as well, not just 2007.

He denies these allegations: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34887376...ies/?GT1=43001

I think the allegations are probably well-founded. His isn't the only organization that has had troubles of some kind. Even orgs like the Red Cross have not gone without issues.

In times like this, we don't want to tear down those who claim they want to help. However, "a donation isn't a donation." There are items donated that central agencies advise against donating, and there are donation agencies that may not be trustworthy.

AGDee 01-17-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1886035)
He denies these allegations: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34887376...ies/?GT1=43001

I think the allegations are probably well-founded. His isn't the only organization that has had troubles of some kind. Even orgs like the Red Cross have not gone without issues.

In times like this, we don't want to tear down those who claim they want to help. However, "a donation isn't a donation." There are items donated that central agencies advise against donating, and there are donation agencies that may not be trustworthy.

Agreed. Which is why I donated to the Clinton Foundation's Haiti fund.. ohhh.. crap. ;)

dreamseeker 01-17-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1886035)
He denies these allegations: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34887376...ies/?GT1=43001

I think the allegations are probably well-founded. His isn't the only organization that has had troubles of some kind. Even orgs like the Red Cross have not gone without issues.

In times like this, we don't want to tear down those who claim they want to help. However, "a donation isn't a donation." There are items donated that central agencies advise against donating, and there are donation agencies that may not be trustworthy.

i heard about red cross too, but i haven't found anything to support it yet. it isn't about tearing orgs down, but if an organization is having issues like this i'd want to know.

preciousjeni 01-17-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bignasty (Post 1886078)
Maybe.

Charities only have to spend 10% of the money on the victims.

Citation please.

VandalSquirrel 01-17-2010 05:07 PM

I donate through Lutheran World Relief not just because I'm Lutheran, but because we provide aid without proselytizing and cost effectively. http://www.lwr.org/ All of the paperwork details are easy to find on the website, including Senusret I's favorite 990 form and an annual report. They haven't published one for 2009 yet, but in 2008 91.1% of their money was spent on project work, meaning 5.5% for general administration and 3.4% for fundraising.

There was already a presence in Haiti, and they don't just do emergency relief so if you're looking for a group where roughly 91 cents of your donated dollar is getting used for aid without religious restrictions on recipients here's a suggestion.

preciousjeni 01-18-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bignasty (Post 1886409)
Look it up yourself.

Why? Don't you know what you're talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bignasty (Post 1886412)
Isn't the legal minimum 10%?

Are you referring to the 10% support test?


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