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Senusret I 12-30-2009 01:32 AM

The Spam-Bots are KILLIN me, son!
 
I mean, seriously -- can NOTHING be done??? WTF!

dreamseeker 12-30-2009 03:18 AM

It makes me wish i were a mod. i see them within minutes of posting.

DaemonSeid 12-30-2009 06:45 AM

http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/blogger/wp-...07/spambot.jpg


Terminate...Terminate...all humans.

kddani 12-30-2009 07:52 AM

Seriously. I've seen very few message boards with such a spam problem. Now that John is advertising out the wazoo on here and we're assaulted with ads everywhere, perhaps he can spend a few minutes dealing with this long standing issue.

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Senusret I 12-30-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1879383)
It makes me wish i were a mod. i see them within minutes of posting.

Me too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1879400)
Seriously. I've seen very few message boards with such a spam problem. Now that John is advertising out the wazoo on here and we're assaulted with ads everywhere, perhaps he can spend a few minutes dealing with this long standing issue.

You know? Ugh. We all got used to the ads pretty quickly, but it's the spam that's a major problem. I shouldn't have to login and see 28 new nonsense posts, some of which look real, but aren't.

cheerfulgreek 12-30-2009 10:09 AM

I could be wrong, but it just seems like since John started using the advertising, the spam got stronger along with it. It's annoying.

ree-Xi 12-30-2009 10:42 AM

If I login and the spambot spams are still there hours later - and the bots usually post the magical number of 3 posts - I report them, stating that the number of spam posts. Otherwise, I have found through experience that if you report only the one, the others will be left up. It's my contribution to GC! ;)

It does scare me the accuracy of content in some of the spam. Can auto-generated spam be that precise?

Lastly, why do people spam? Aside from the porn spam and the nuisance spam (the kind that is made to clog inboxes and comment logs with the aim of interrupting service), do they really result in more traffic/sales?

DaemonSeid 12-30-2009 10:50 AM

Legalese regarding spam

33girl 12-30-2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1879445)
Otherwise, I have found through experience that if you report only the one, the others will be left up.

If you report the spam in the Events forum, I can delete that because I'm the Events mod. I am unable to delete spam in Chapter Ops, Rush etc. because those aren't my forums. Believe me, if I could I would.

The forum mod plus John and the super mods (James, NinjaPoodle, PenguinTrax and SAEalumnus) get a notification when a post is reported. If you want to make sure that all the spam in all the forums gets deleted, send a PM to one of the super mods. They can delete the spam and ban the spammer at the same time.

It all depends on who gets to it first - if a super mod sees the notification first, all spam posts will be deleted and the spammer banned. If a regular mod sees it first, they can only fix their individual forum.

ree-Xi 12-30-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1879477)
If you report the spam in the Events forum, I can delete that because I'm the Events mod. I am unable to delete spam in Chapter Ops, Rush etc. because those aren't my forums. Believe me, if I could I would.

The forum mod plus John and the super mods (James, NinjaPoodle, PenguinTrax and SAEalumnus) get a notification when a post is reported. If you want to make sure that all the spam in all the forums gets deleted, send a PM to one of the super mods. They can delete the spam and ban the spammer at the same time.

It all depends on who gets to it first - if a super mod sees the notification first, all spam posts will be deleted and the spammer banned. If a regular mod sees it first, they can only fix their individual forum.

Ohhh...thank you for the explanation!!!

kddani 12-30-2009 03:03 PM

Mods can only do so much. The administrator is really the only one who can take preventative measures, of which there must be some because other message boards don't have this problem. But they do seem to be getting worse since all of the advertisements were added.

AOII Angel 12-30-2009 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1879477)
If you report the spam in the Events forum, I can delete that because I'm the Events mod. I am unable to delete spam in Chapter Ops, Rush etc. because those aren't my forums. Believe me, if I could I would.

The forum mod plus John and the super mods (James, NinjaPoodle, PenguinTrax and SAEalumnus) get a notification when a post is reported. If you want to make sure that all the spam in all the forums gets deleted, send a PM to one of the super mods. They can delete the spam and ban the spammer at the same time.

It all depends on who gets to it first - if a super mod sees the notification first, all spam posts will be deleted and the spammer banned. If a regular mod sees it first, they can only fix their individual forum.

Can we nominate you to SuperMod status? We see you around here more then anyone else anyway!

33girl 12-30-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1879552)
Can we nominate you to SuperMod status? We see you around here more then anyone else anyway!

If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.

In all seriousness, no, I don't want to do it. The super mods we have are doing a fine job and more than 4 would be overkill. They're here, maybe just not posting.

SAEalumnus 12-31-2009 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1879430)
I could be wrong, but it just seems like since John started using the advertising, the spam got stronger along with it. It's annoying.

It certainly seems that way. As a matter of interest, for as far back as available records go (3 1/2 years), there have been an average of 62 bans issued per month, but as of the time of this post, the most recent months have been 238 (Dec), 172 (Nov), 135 (Oct), and 65 (Sept). This year as a whole also saw 57% of all of the bans over the last 3 1/2 years. Not all of those bans were spammers, but I doubt the difference would be significant. What's really noteworthy is these are the numbers of individual usernames that were banned, not the number of actual posts that had to be deleted.

All I can say is, somebody must be getting paid if they're out in these kinds of numbers.

Senusret I 12-31-2009 02:09 AM

:eek:

SAEalumnus 12-31-2009 02:30 AM

Make that +1 for this month: not-so-lucky123.

ETA: +2: appujohn

Here's a tip folks. Just because you can't see one of us online, doesn't mean you aren't being watched.

KSig RC 12-31-2009 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1879729)
All I can say is, somebody must be getting paid if they're out in these kinds of numbers.

Well . . . since sign-up is a pretty basic (and old) captcha and posting requires absolutely zero interaction other than clicking "Submit" (plus this is a very common board type), it's pretty likely a bot could handle all of it - literally thousands of accounts and user names could happen every day on forums. There's no doubt the ads are contributing negatively - any hits or redirects will get the bots working overtime in search of more.

It'll get worse before it gets better if John doesn't do something. Which will suck for the volunteer moderators. Hope you at least got a Christmas card.

kddani 01-19-2010 07:14 AM

Bump

I log on usually pretty early in the morning, and always look under "New Posts" where there are always a gazillion spam threads.

DaemonSeid 01-19-2010 08:49 AM

This is starting to turn into GC Craigslist

agzg 01-19-2010 09:04 AM

Uuuuuuuuuuugh...

dreamseeker 01-19-2010 10:14 AM

what, y'all don't want an iphone?! :p

DaemonSeid 01-19-2010 10:27 AM

I have one already!

naraht 01-19-2010 01:06 PM

Captcha?
 
Does anyone know whether there are version of vBulletin that use Captcha for initial registration?

NinjaPoodle 01-19-2010 01:11 PM

Hey, I'm tired of it too but that's one of the reasons John needed the help.

FYI, a LOT of these spammers come on in the dark-o-clock hours, 1AM-5am PST. I've gotten spammers (on more than one occasion) WHILE they're still posting. I just did it again yesterday.

And as a reminder, we are NOT PAID for what we do. Cut us some slack people. We get them as quickly as we can. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1879735)
Here's a tip folks. Just because you can't see one of us online, doesn't mean you aren't being watched.

This too.

kddani 01-19-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 1886780)

And as a reminder, we are NOT PAID for what we do. Cut us some slack people. We get them as quickly as we can. :)

I don't think anyone's complained about the mods - its about John not taking the steps to prevent the crap in the first place.

cheerfulgreek 01-19-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus (Post 1879729)
It certainly seems that way. As a matter of interest, for as far back as available records go (3 1/2 years), there have been an average of 62 bans issued per month, but as of the time of this post, the most recent months have been 238 (Dec), 172 (Nov), 135 (Oct), and 65 (Sept). This year as a whole also saw 57% of all of the bans over the last 3 1/2 years. Not all of those bans were spammers, but I doubt the difference would be significant. What's really noteworthy is these are the numbers of individual usernames that were banned, not the number of actual posts that had to be deleted.

All I can say is, somebody must be getting paid if they're out in these kinds of numbers.

I dunno, it just seems like 3 years ago when I was a new member, we never had this problem, nowhere near as much as it's happening now. We're even getting movie spammers. That's never happened. Movie spammers? C'mon. That's ridiculous. I mean, what's next? And I'm not complaining about the mods or anything. I think you all are doing the best you can, and that's all you can do. It's just that I was wondering can John do something about it?

DaemonSeid 01-19-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1886946)
That's ridiculous. I mean, what's next??

Spam spammers


http://justin.everett-church.com/wp-images/spam.jpg

MMmmmmm Spam....yum.

cheerfulgreek 01-19-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1886960)
Spam spammers


http://justin.everett-church.com/wp-images/spam.jpg

MMmmmmm Spam....yum.

lol

NinjaPoodle 01-19-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1886946)
I dunno, it just seems like 3 years ago when I was a new member, we never had this problem, nowhere near as much as it's happening now. We're even getting movie spammers. That's never happened. Movie spammers? C'mon. That's ridiculous. I mean, what's next? And I'm not complaining about the mods or anything. I think you all are doing the best you can, and that's all you can do. It's just that I was wondering can John do something about it?

Sorry if I came off mad. I was just tired. We've got a massive storm (San Francisco) passing overhead and I got a 5:20 am thunder-above-my-house-wake-me-up-and-set-off-all-the-neighborhood-car-alarms-and shake the house salute. OYE.:)

G-Kue 1911 01-19-2010 10:09 PM

My sweet NJP could never come off mad....well unless you diss those....uuuuugh cowboys...but even then she rocks a lil!

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 1887017)
Sorry if I came off mad. I was just tired. We've got a massive storm (San Francisco) passing overhead and I got a 5:20 am thunder-above-my-house-wake-me-up-and-set-off-all-the-neighborhood-car-alarms-and shake the house salute. OYE.:)


NinjaPoodle 01-19-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Kue 1911 (Post 1887024)
My sweet NJP could never come off mad....well unless you diss those....uuuuugh cowboys...but even then she rocks a lil!

:cool:

cheerfulgreek 01-19-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 1887017)
Sorry if I came off mad. I was just tired. We've got a massive storm (San Francisco) passing overhead and I got a 5:20 am thunder-above-my-house-wake-me-up-and-set-off-all-the-neighborhood-car-alarms-and shake the house salute. OYE.:)

You didn't come off mad. I think you're doing a good job.:)

ThetaDancer 01-20-2010 09:27 AM

Yikes. They're back in full-force again today.

DaemonSeid 01-20-2010 09:28 AM

you don't what to play poker???

No Strip poker??

agzg 01-20-2010 09:34 AM

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.

I realize the mods and super mods are doing their best. This poker guy is driving me berserk though.

ThetaDancer 01-20-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1887173)
you don't what to play poker???

No Strip poker??

I'm going to have to pass on the poker and the opportunities that await at the "Tata Institute," being advertised in the Social Forum.

SydneyK 01-20-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1887187)
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh.

I realize the mods and super mods are doing their best. This poker guy is driving me berserk though.

Ditto.

groovypq 01-20-2010 11:09 AM

Holy crap!

AnotherKD 01-20-2010 12:00 PM

Seriously! What. The. HELL. Is going on today?????


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