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lulutnl3 12-24-2009 04:00 AM

1987?
 
I have a question. I thought ZPhiB/Phi Beta Sigma were the only connection with GLOs in the NALFO.
But I heard that in 1987 Delta Sigma Theta introduced stepping to Lambda Theta Nu by inviting them to step on a unity stroll. http://www.lambdathetanu.org/culture/stepping.html

I know in Florida the FIRM Fam is big, but are there any places that this unknown bond is elaborated on? I thought it was interesting and fascinating.

ladygreek 12-24-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lulutnl3 (Post 1877894)
I have a question. I thought ZPhiB/Phi Beta Sigma were the only connection with GLOs in the NALFO.
But I heard that in 1987 Delta Sigma Theta introduced stepping to Lambda Theta Nu by inviting them to step on a unity stroll. http://www.lambdathetanu.org/culture/stepping.html

I know in Florida the FIRM Fam is big, but are there any places that this unknown bond is elaborated on? I thought it was interesting and fascinating.

I guess I don't see what the big deal is. BGLOs have relationships with other frats and sororities on many campuses. Delta is no exception. Inviting someone to step 22 years ago is hardly a "bond." What is the relationship today?

Oh and what is the FIRM Fam?

5Knowledge1913 12-24-2009 09:23 AM

I agree w/ Soror LadyGreek. Since stepping isn't even a necessary part of any of our organizations, from inviting another group to step would connect in no more than the time it took to do the show!

You are correct that Zeta and Sigma have been and remain the only two BGLO's bound to each other.

Please do not confuse Delta reaching out to another organization as creating a particular "bond" and I hardly find this fact about this stepshow "interesting and fascinating."

DrPhil 12-24-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1877910)
Inviting someone to step 22 years ago is hardly a "bond." What is the relationship today?

The relationship is so strong today that, off the top of my head, I don't know what Lambda Theta Nu is and don't know if I've ever had a significant interaction with one.

Ohhhhh Ohhhhh Ohhhhh...we used to be real close with the Sigma Chis on the yard and had programs and social events with them. We were close as individuals and chapters. Does that mean there's an organizational bond and other Deltas and Sigma Chis should know what the hell it's about? :p

DrPhil 12-24-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 5Knowledge1913 (Post 1877925)
Please do not confuse Delta reaching out to another organization as creating a particular "bond" and I hardly find this fact about this stepshow "interesting and fascinating."

LOL. Exactly. Even if stepping was a necessary part of our organizations. BGLOs have helped each other with steps and stepshows for years. Those are all "bonds" in a general BGLO sense.

This is the only excitement on Delta Avenue? :(

MysticCat 12-24-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lulutnl3 (Post 1877894)
I have a question. I thought ZPhiB/Phi Beta Sigma were the only connection with GLOs in the NALFO.

:confused:

ladygreek 12-24-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 5Knowledge1913 (Post 1877925)
I agree w/ Soror LadyGreek. Since stepping isn't even a necessary part of any of our organizations, from inviting another group to step would connect in no more than the time it took to do the show!

You are correct that Zeta and Sigma have been and remain the only two BGLO's bound to each other.

Please do not confuse Delta reaching out to another organization as creating a particular "bond" and I hardly find this fact about this stepshow "interesting and fascinating."

And there are Zetas and Sigma that will dispute this.

DrPhil 12-24-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1877952)
And there are Zetas and Sigma that will dispute this.

That sucks.

5Knowledge1913 12-24-2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1877953)
That sucks.

Agreed!

Psi U MC Vito 12-24-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1877910)

Oh and what is the FIRM Fam?

IIRC the FIRM Fam is Phi Beta Sigma, Zeta Phi Beta, Sigma Lambda Gamma and Sigma Lambda Beta.

Senusret I 12-24-2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 1878016)
IIRC the FIRM Fam is Phi Beta Sigma, Zeta Phi Beta, Sigma Lambda Gamma and Sigma Lambda Beta.

Also known as "A Bunch of Foolishness, Inc."

Senusret I 12-24-2009 05:25 PM

And anyway, we all know the REALLLLLL BGLO/LGLO unity is the Cornell Cousins of Alpha Phi Alpha, Lambda Upsilon Lambda, and Lambda Pi Chi!

Sponsoring Gold Rush parties near you this spring!

lulutnl3 12-26-2009 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 5Knowledge1913 (Post 1877925)

You are correct that Zeta and Sigma have been and remain the only two BGLO's bound to each other.

Please do not confuse Delta reaching out to another organization as creating a particular "bond" and I hardly find this fact about this stepshow "interesting and fascinating."

About the Zetas and Sigmas, I meant being connected to Sigma Lambda Gamma and Sigma Lambda Beta.

Firm Fam = First Inter-Racially Mixed Family

NALFO = National Association of Latino Fraternal Organizations

And I guess I find it interesting because growing up in So Cal there is a lot of tension between Latinos and Blacks. I understand that stepping isn't a main focun in sororities, but I thought it is interesting to see that Delta Sigma Theta TAUGHT Lambda Theta Nu how to step and is instrumental in that part. The sorority was founded in 1986, so it wasn't like inviting any regular sorority into a unity step. They helped create the idea of stepping and how to into this new sorority at the time.

LatinaAlumna 12-26-2009 01:55 PM

I am a member of Lambda Theta Nu Sorority, Inc., and you are reading way too much into this.

If you ask any of my sisters, "When was the first time your organization stepped?", she would say, "In 1987, in a unity step with Delta Sigma Theta." I fail to see how that implies that we are somehow connected in any capacity. To leave out the part about stepping with Delta Sigma Theta would be inaccurate, and that's the reason why it's even mentioned on the website. We're not going to say that our first step performance was on our own, because it wasn't--but please don't try to make linkages that are not there.

lulutnl3 12-26-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna (Post 1878304)
I am a member of Lambda Theta Nu Sorority, Inc., and you are reading way too much into this.

If you ask any of my sisters, "When was the first time your organization stepped?", she would say, "In 1987, in a unity step with Delta Sigma Theta." I fail to see how that implies that we are somehow connected in any capacity. To leave out the part about stepping with Delta Sigma Theta would be inaccurate, and that's the reason why it's even mentioned on the website. We're not going to say that our first step performance was on our own, because it wasn't--but please don't try to make linkages that are not there.


Honestly, I guess I misunderstood what I read then. I was told also that they taught you and so forth. Like I said before, where I come from Blacks and Hispanics don't usually get along so it's interesting for me to see any kind of relationships b/w GLOs from NALFO and NPHC get together in any which way. I meant no disrespect to anyone, I was just trying to understand:D

Finer Woman10-A-91 12-27-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lulutnl3 (Post 1878250)
About the Zetas and Sigmas, I meant being connected to Sigma Lambda Gamma and Sigma Lambda Beta.

Firm Fam = First Inter-Racially Mixed Family

NALFO = National Association of Latino Fraternal Organizations

...


I have been a very active Zeta for nearly 19 years...and Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated is not affiliated with NALFO...nor are we officially or unofficially part of ANY group called the FIRM FAM.

Please stop using the term...

ladygreek 12-27-2009 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1877953)
That sucks.

After reading FW's post, I had to come back and ask why does it suck that some Zeta Phi beta Sigmas do not say they are "bounded" to SLGB? There is no official bond same as with the Omegas and us. And there are Deltas who will not claim a relationship.

Remember for many of us old school, the reason for what "relationship" there is was not known until ISOS came out. It was instead a matter of personal preference mainly pushed by the Omegas. Shoot on some campuses the "relationship" was with the Kappas, because of the shared colors.

Senusret I 12-27-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1878527)
After reading FW's post, I had to come back and ask why does it suck that some Zeta Phi beta Sigmas do not say they are "bounded" to SLGB? There is no official bond same as with the Omegas and us. And there are Deltas who will not claim a relationship.

Remember for many of us old school, the reason for what "relationship" there is was not known until ISOS came out. It was instead a matter of personal preference mainly pushed by the Omegas. Shoot on some campuses the "relationship" was with the Kappas, because of the shared colors.

When you said "And there are Zetas and Sigma that will dispute this," because you quoted a post that was just about the Sigmas and Zetas (not the FIRM), it looked like you were saying that there are Zetas and Sigmas who will dispute their own bond with each other.

Anyway, when my mom first met one of my Omega mentors when I was 17, he called her Soror, and she smiled but was like "wtf is he talking about?"

ladygreek 12-27-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1878538)
When you said "And there are Zetas and Sigma that will dispute this," because you quoted a post that was just about the Sigmas and Zetas (not the FIRM), it looked like you were saying that there are Zetas and Sigmas who will dispute their own bond with each other.

Anyway, when my mom first met one of my Omega mentors when I was 17, he called her Soror, and she smiled but was like "wtf is he talking about?"

Oops my bad!. I did misread Knowledge's post. That's what I get for practicing speed reading-ha!. No I don't know of any ZPBS's that dispute THEIR bond.

LOL at your Mom's reaction.

BluPhiCrew 12-28-2009 09:34 PM

FIRM Fam...
 
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Originally Posted by Finer Woman10-A-91 (Post 1878455)
I have been a very active Zeta for nearly 19 years...and Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated is not affiliated with NALFO...nor are we officially or unofficially part of ANY group called the FIRM FAM.

Please stop using the term...

Soror, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Although unofficial, some members of the 4 stated orgs do acknowledge the FIRM Fam. Where I'm from, we call them our cousins because one of their founders is indeed our brother. We have nothing but love and respect for them because of our connection. You will see this more in Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma. I believe this is due to our high concentration of Latinos, thus more Latino Orgs. It's really to each there own on this one. If you don't observe it, I understand and have no issue with your decision. For some of us, they are fam.

DrPhil 12-28-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lulutnl3 (Post 1878354)
Honestly, I guess I misunderstood what I read then. I was told also that they taught you and so forth. Like I said before, where I come from Blacks and Hispanics don't usually get along so it's interesting for me to see any kind of relationships b/w GLOs from NALFO and NPHC get together in any which way. I meant no disrespect to anyone, I was just trying to understand:D


Which of these orgs are you in?

lulutnl3 02-04-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1878951)
Which of these orgs are you in?

I am not in any of these orgs. Like I said, I have friends in these organizations, and my personal interest in this matter stems from where I have grown up. As a sociology major focusing on ethnic relations I have a private interest in matters involving African Americans and Latinos. In the area I live, So. Cal, there is a lot of racial violence and I have lost TOO many friends in fights over skin color. I plan on getting myself involved with social activism to impact how these two groups relate to each other.


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