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aephi alum 09-23-2009 09:50 PM

Anti-Jewish hate group protesting in Great Neck, NY this weekend
 
A hate group from Kansas is traveling to New York this weekend to demonstrate against Judaism.

Article from The Jewish Star, an Orthodox Jewish paper based on Long Island

Article from Newsday

Great Neck is about 90% Jewish, and has about 15 synagogues, including the Great Neck Synagogue, which is an old Orthodox shul and is one of the planned protest sites. There are a lot of Orthodox Jews in the immediate neighborhood, as Orthodox Jews cannot drive on the Sabbath and must therefore live within walking distance of a synagogue.

It is, of course, no coincidence that the protests coincide with Shabbat Shuvah and Yom Kippur.

:mad:

On a personal note: My parents live in Great Neck. I'm concerned for them, but they plan to attend church as usual (they are Catholic) and otherwise to stay away from the protests. I hope they stay safe.

dreamseeker 09-23-2009 09:58 PM

westborough AGAIN. as someone who was born and raised baptist...i really hate these people. i kinda wish there wasn't going to be a counter rally, but that is their right. i hope it remains peaceful.

RU OX Alum 09-23-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1850400)
westborough AGAIN. as someone who was born and raised baptist...i really hate these people. i kinda wish there wasn't going to be a counter rally, but that is their right. i hope it remains peaceful.

I hope no one on my side gets hurt, but if gets violent, it gets violent.

I hope the JDL and all of their affiliates are out in full force.

I know that sounds mean, but sometimes morons need a good ass kicking.

kstar 09-24-2009 12:25 AM

They were here last week for Rosh Hashanah. It was disgusting, but most of the community/school supported us, and it was a great opportunity for education.


How are they picking their protest sites, dart board?

Smile_Awhile 09-24-2009 12:38 AM

Last year, we performed The Laramie Project- one of their hatreds. In response, a friend of mine organized a giant silent protest. We all just stood there, in silence. Shirts were made that said "Love, Not Hate". There were some with signs, but most of us just stood there. It was amazing.

They left early, and only had about 3 people there. They couldn't come onto campus, as it is private property. But the counter protest was still amazing.

honeychile 09-24-2009 01:11 PM

Groups like that are an embarrassment to believing Christians. :mad:

Psi U MC Vito 09-24-2009 02:30 PM

Agreed. Tolerance is one of the biggest things that we teach, but zelots like that seem to forget it.

DrPhil 09-24-2009 02:50 PM

I don't think Christianity (and most mainstream religions) teaches tolerance. It is difficult to teach tolerance and acceptance when there's an understanding of "to dos" and "not to dos" to get into the Kingdom. So, it should come as no surprise when zealots get a hold of all of these religions and their texts to suit exclusionary purposes.

I also don't think that people have to love in order not to hate. They can be apathetic. Many people are apathetic until there is some threat to their sense of balance and normalcy. That's when groups like this tend to be formed. So, preaching love to them silences them at the time but does not erase what they perceive to be their founding purpose.

This group has the right to nonviolent protest. I hope it remains nonviolent on the part of the protestors and the community.

DaemonSeid 09-24-2009 03:31 PM

Can I call "Race War"?

or is this one called "Culture War"?

Let me know so I can play the right card.

PeppyGPhiB 09-24-2009 03:32 PM

Someone needs to get out there with a big ol' "JESUS WAS A JEW" sign!

knight_shadow 09-24-2009 03:32 PM

"Religion War"?

DaemonSeid 09-24-2009 03:33 PM

O yeah!! I gotta see if I have that deck next to the old Magic TG ones...heheh

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1850660)
Someone needs to get out there with a big ol' "JESUS WAS A JEW" sign!

I double dog dare you to do it.

ForeverRoses 09-24-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 1850399)

On a personal note: My parents live in Great Neck. I'm concerned for them, but they plan to attend church as usual (they are Catholic) and otherwise to stay away from the protests. I hope they stay safe.

They don't like Catholics either.

They tried to protest a funeral here a few years ago of an Iraqi war soldier. It didn't work out so well for them.

KSigkid 09-24-2009 05:08 PM

They protested outside my (Episcopal) church in Boston a few years ago. It was kind of weird - they were there when we were walking in before the service started, but when we left, they were gone.

DaemonSeid 09-24-2009 05:30 PM

They coming all the way from Kansas huh...?


http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/wic...the-west-2.jpg

She'll get you my pretties...

dreamseeker 09-25-2009 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1850645)
I don't think Christianity (and most mainstream religions) teaches tolerance.

yup.

RU OX Alum 10-04-2009 12:26 AM

so...bump???

I didn't hear anything about any riots, so I guess they're okay.(the residents, I mean. I don't give a crap about westboro.)

KSigkid 10-04-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1853783)
so...bump???

I didn't hear anything about any riots, so I guess they're okay.(the residents, I mean. I don't give a crap about westboro.)

Even if the protesters are awful people, I don't know that I've heard of a community reacting violently to them. People are usually pretty well-behaved, and try not to give these groups more attention than is necessary.

Gusteau 10-04-2009 01:34 PM

I'm from Long Island, but being away at school I've only actually heard about it through GC. My father works in the Great Neck/Kings Point area; he never mentioned anything about it though. I would assume they were largely ignored.

naraht 10-04-2009 02:18 PM

Describing Westboro Baptist as an "Anti-Jewish Hate Group" is like describing the plot of the first Godzilla movie as "Tall Foreigner visits Japan". Accurate, but in many, many ways insufficient. :)

RU OX Alum 10-04-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1853859)
Describing Westboro Baptist as an "Anti-Jewish Hate Group" is like describing the plot of the first Godzilla movie as "Tall Foreigner visits Japan". Accurate, but in many, many ways insufficient. :)

This cracked me up.

aephi alum 10-04-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1853859)
Describing Westboro Baptist as an "Anti-Jewish Hate Group" is like describing the plot of the first Godzilla movie as "Tall Foreigner visits Japan". Accurate, but in many, many ways insufficient. :)

The title field can only hold so many characters. :)

The protests pretty much fizzled out. There was a bit of counter-protesting, but that was all. Article from Newsday.

RU OX Alum 10-04-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 1853968)
The title field can only hold so many characters. :)

The protests pretty much fizzled out. There was a bit of counter-protesting, but that was all. Article from Newsday.

I still don't even get what they were protesting this time. Just being Jewish in general? Or was it some specific thing?

They were pretty aggressive at the Virginia Tech memorial, and actually crossed the street a few times. Luckily, it didn't get physichal.

That is why my earlier suggestion about bringing hard ass JDL types along. I'm not saying violence is always the answer, but I am saying that when violence is the answer, it's the only answer. And when someone says that someone else's religion should be wiped off the planent, that is usually a precrussor to violence. That could almost be construed as a threat.

These people are scary.

deepimpact2 10-07-2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1850645)
I don't think Christianity (and most mainstream religions) teaches tolerance. It is difficult to teach tolerance and acceptance when there's an understanding of "to dos" and "not to dos" to get into the Kingdom. So, it should come as no surprise when zealots get a hold of all of these religions and their texts to suit exclusionary purposes.

:rolleyes:

There is a difference between a lack of tolerance and teaching about sin. True Christians know that you tolerate everyone, but sin is sin.

Kevin 10-07-2009 10:05 PM

Westboro comes down here every so often. My feeling is that it's best to ignore these goobers. The only way they exist is for us to validate them by continuing to comment on their existence. I think the first few times they came to OKC, I was outraged, angry, etc. Since they're not going away, I figure the next best thing to do is to pretend they don't exist. They'll probably never actually do anything besides act like buffoons. They have zero political clout, so who really cares what they say or do?

KSUViolet06 10-07-2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1855271)
Westboro comes down here every so often. My feeling is that it's best to ignore these goobers. The only way they exist is for us to validate them by continuing to comment on their existence. I think the first few times they came to OKC, I was outraged, angry, etc. Since they're not going away, I figure the next best thing to do is to pretend they don't exist. They'll probably never actually do anything besides act like buffoons. They have zero political clout, so who really cares what they say or do?

This.

They thrive on people reacting to them. The best thing to do is ingore.

Besides, isn't Westboro just that old dude and like 3 of his kids anyway?

Kevin 10-07-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1855275)
This.

They thrive on people reacting to them. The best thing to do is ingore.

Besides, isn't Westboro just that old dude and like 3 of his kids anyway?

I'd guess it's around 50 people.

http://www.vimeo.com/6552578

That's probably all of 'em.

DrPhil 10-07-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1855269)
:rolleyes:

There is a difference between a lack of tolerance and teaching about sin. True Christians know that you tolerate everyone, but sin is sin.

:rolleyes:

There is no difference between teaching about some of the "sins" that many "Christians" consider to be "sins" (based on their interpretation of Scripture) and being intolerant. And notice I said "to dos" and "not to dos," which is not exclusive to "sin."

"True Christian." :rolleyes:


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