Mackenzie Phillips: I slept with my own father
 

....yuck.

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LA Times Article

and we should be surprised and/or shocked by this because...?


Just last year this happened.

News like this (especially if you are seeking help and not book peddling) is better relegated to your shrink, not on Oprah.

This story has been bothering me. Really, really bothering me. So sad and gross if it is true. Her father giving her drugs and having sex with her...her having sex with Mick Jager (wasn't it he?) when she was 18.....

She said she kept it a secret because she didn't want to ruin her father's reputation. Umm...thanks for sharing now, I guess.

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I'm always surprised and shocked when I hear about incest. The celebrity status makes it material for mainstream media. It also makes me wonder why the hell we're being told about it all these years later.

The Oprah factor adds to my "why the hell" wonder.

some things are better left out of a tell-all book! really, did she need to share this?

I don't think so. It annoys me that we now know this.

Then again, I'm conflicted because who are we to want people (celebrities or people who held onto info for 30 years) to hold onto these types of things?

It's just perfect timing for her tell-all book and need for continued stardom/money. It's like Barbara Walters vagina monologues that were so tacky and attention whoreish.

Is this the lady that was in Wilson Phillips or was that a different child of the Mamas and the Papas?

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I am not all that surprised anymore...I think I am more surprised to see that in order for some celebs to retain any relevancy , they resort to tell the world about their dirty secrets.

That's why you hear about things like this years later.

I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in the back of her mind this thought went through it:

"If Valerie can come back out of nowhere and make money for Jenny Craig, tehn why can't I sell my story and do the same?"

HEY YALL VALERIE GOT A HOT BODY AND MY DADDY USED MY BODY!! LOOK@MEEEE!!!!

Different child.

Chynna Phillips is her half sister.

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I think it's gross that it happened but I don't feel one way or the other about her in particular sharing it. I think incest is one of those things that is swept under the rug and probably needs to be more "demystified" for lack of a better word.

This is the one who was on One Day at a Time. (I had such a crush on Valerie Bertinelli.)

If publishing the book and being on Oprah helps her in someway to release any demons, then I'm happy for her. However, that seems like a huge stretch, and I can't watch Oprah today. Her appearance on the show is just disturbing and seems to be a need for attention like DaemonSeid said. But if it helps one person out there, then...okay. I'm still so disturbed in my heart at the idea of years of consensual incest with her father.

Similarly, it will sell a shit ton of books. It's hard to ignore that part.

Sordid sex secret + Oprah appearance + her fans who like to read whatever is suggested = $$$

Yup, you are right.

She's written and talked about everything before but the incest. Her father's not around to confirm or deny. Makes me wonder if she's making up stuff to sell books? She can't be in very good financial shape. Sad, because she had a lot of talent.

It annoys me too that we know this. This should be between Ms. Phillips and her therapist and relevant family members/friends, and not the entire country.

I don't know how we got all confessional about our pasts, but I don't really care about this.

Back in 1982 or so, my 2 year old cousin saw Valerie Bertinelli on TV and pointed, saying "Dee Dee! Dee Dee!" (my nickname). He thought she was me :) I was thrilled that this toddler thought I was her. Then again, he was 2.

I was about to edit my original post with that fact. If she'll publish a book about this subject, there's no telling how far she'll go to further her "career" or make some money.

I honestly don't see who in their right mind would want to read about this subject. Just reading how her father suggested moving overseas to continue the incest gave me a headache. Who wants to pay $25 or so for a hardback that they'll probably read only once? I'm having a hard time even listening to a favorite afternoon drive radio show talking about this matter.

I'll be watching Tyra instead about the first year of parenthood and what no one talks about.

You know that the Kindle version is cheaper. *wink*

LOL! Some of us haven't upgraded yet. It's actually $17.15 a hardback at Amazon, and Kindle version is $14.29. It's currently ranked 18th. I'm gonna pretend this whole matter doesn't exist. I'm getting nauseous. Have a good day, GC.

10 years? this whole thing makes me want to go scrub my brain...

this mess will never make its way on to my kindle.

well, maybe the free intro chapter.

but NO! i don't like this at all.

I'm sorry, the interview on Oprah was disgusting. I don't know if it's true. I don't want to know if it's true. However, I agree that she most likely needs the money since it's all going into her veins.

she probably wanted this long because (in part) because she thought no one would believe her....and since some people don't want to, they won't. (for example: posts doubting the timing/motivations/truth of her claims)

Same here. There's not much I wouldn't believe about John Phillips, but this is just eeewwww.

Ew. I know that everyone has a story and everyone deserves to be heard but I'm still grossed out.

Good point...and speaking for myself, it's not that I don't believe it, it's how she is going about telling the business that makes hearing what happened all the more uncomfortable.

Kind of freaked me out. Pretty disgusting if you ask me.

So just because we find her story disgusting means that she shouldn't share it? This was rape, incest, sexual abuse, however you want to describe it, and that stuff is unfortunately far more common than people want to believe. That it morphed into a "consentual" relationship that lasted 10 years I'm willing to speculate was because of the position of authority her father was in. I mean, having your dad rape you - and I bet that encounter was not the first time her dad made advances toward her - must really mess with your mind. Add to that that she was so drugged up at that time in her life, and I guess it doesn't surprise me that her dad could manipulate her like that.

McKenzie Phillips' reputation and career was ruined by her drug habit. Maybe she blames her dad a little (or a lot) for that and she wants the world to know it. Seems to me that she (and other celebrities such as Oprah who disclose sexual abuse and other horrible things many years later), is looking for a little understanding or sympathy from people who have had none for her.

One Day at at Time was before my time, but I do love American Graffiti, and I'll always think of McKenzie in her role in that movie.

Is that what you gathered from our responses?

Several of them, yes.

My problem with this whole thing is that she doesn't seem to be doing this to come out with it as a way to do anything else than to make some money off of her family's notorious dysfunction.

Why did she do this? It's not for punitive reasons--her father's been dead for nearly a decade and he can't only confirm or deny it, he can't be punished for it if it's even true. It doesn't seem to be in order to help people going through similar tragedies; if that was the case she would have worked with an organization like RAINN. She even could have used her appearance on Oprah on that angle--since Ms. Winfrey has been very open about her history of abuse. Why does her confession happen to center around her book's release?

I was watching the news at my internship (hey, a girl needs a break sometimes ;)) and someone noted that this might encourage people in similar situations to speak out and have their abuse stopped and their abuser punished. OK maybe I'm just weird, but I don't see how ANYONE would get that message when MP waited till 10 years after her abuser died to finally speak up. That fact by itself sends a huge message, one that (IMO) kind of overshadows what she's saying. A agree with Munchkin, there were several ways to use this horror to help other people and this just doesn't seem like one of them. Now, if each purchase of her book resulted in a donation to an organization that helps abused children, that'd be something that would make this more inspirational, helpful, whathaveyou.

I think she's full of shit. She's tried to restart her career numerous times and come up with squat. I don't deny that she had a very messed up childhood, but this is beyond. She probably promised Chynna a cut if she would back her up.

FWIW, Michelle Phillips agrees with me and she and John were definitely not on the best of terms.