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Maelynn1 09-07-2009 05:40 PM

Question about NPC rules!
 
How does NPC find out if a woman was already a member of another chapter previously?

There is a girl in my dorm who transferred from NC State and was initiated into a sorority not here. She wants to rush again and get into a sorority here.

How do they find this out exactly? I know that you can only be in 1.

THANKS!!!!!!! :)

Unregistered- 09-07-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844339)
How does NPC find out if a woman was already a member of another chapter previously?

There is a girl in my dorm who transferred from NC State and was initiated into a sorority not here. She wants to rush again and get into a sorority here.

How do they find this out exactly? I know that you can only be in 1.

THANKS!!!!!!! :)

They find out by reading about it on GreekChat.

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1844340)
They find out by reading about it on GreekChat.


Yeah but do they have a way of knowing before recruitment? what if they don't find out before initiation?

Unregistered- 09-07-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844341)
Yeah but do they have a way of knowing before recruitment? what if they don't find out before initiation?

Collegians, alums, advisors...they all talk. There's no way to give you a definitive answer because it's not always public knowledge of how they know or when they know.

Even if this gal is initiated into a 2nd NPC, who's to say she won't be found out? She'll lose all sorority membership then! :D

OleMissGlitter 09-07-2009 05:54 PM

It will catch up with her soon enough....

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 05:56 PM

Well just to let everyone know she did not go to NC State previously, that was a code name :) :)

But she was, however, initiated into a chapter we don't have here.

lovespink88 09-07-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844345)
Well just to let everyone know she did not go to NC State previously, that was a code name :) :)

How convenient!

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1844348)
How convenient!

He He yeah, I had heard of how posting too much true or specific info about your recruitment could hurt you in recruitment

knight_shadow 09-07-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1844348)
How convenient!

LOL

lovespink88 09-07-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844349)
He He yeah, I had heard of how posting too much true or specific info about your recruitment could hurt you in recruitment

And you didn't think the same thing would apply for your friend who was already initiated into a sorority and is planning on trying to get into another?

Unregistered- 09-07-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1844352)
And you didn't think the same thing would apply for your friend who was already initiated into a sorority and is planning on trying to get into another?

WE. ARE. ----)HERE(----.

Kinda reminds me of the "I'm not a troll...my roommate did it!" threads.

Just interested 09-07-2009 06:19 PM

I have told this story on another thread but it bears repeating. Young lady pledges sorority at one State U and is initiated. Sophomore year she transfers to another state and another State U. She decides she doesn't fit with her sorority at new school. Signs up for recruitment and pledges another sorority where she becomes president of the chapter. Several years pass. In passing, mother lets it slip that daughter was president of her chapter of XYZ at 2nd State U. Slowly the story travels until it reaches the ears of a member of 1st Sorority at 1st State U. Phone call is made to National Panhellenic representative of 1st sorority who picks up the phone and makes call to National Panhellenic representative of 2nd sorority and like magic, young lady has lost her membership to BOTH groups. Your friend in the dorm made her choice. End of story!!

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:20 PM

Trust me, It's all very confidential :) No worries there!

I just want to know if NPC has a specific way of finding out?

lovespink88 09-07-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1844353)
Kinda reminds me of the "I'm not a troll...my roommate did it!" threads.

Indeed!

Look, I was able to figure narrow your friend's sorority down to four in a matter of 3 minutes. Oh, the wonders of Google!

Now, any sorority member from your school, which is easily identifiable because of your previous threads in which you mention Appalachian State, can see this and be on the look out for a transfer from NC State.

That's how they find out.

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Just interested (Post 1844354)
I have told this story on another thread but it bears repeating. Young lady pledges sorority at one State U and is initiated. Sophomore year she transfers to another state and another State U. She decides she doesn't fit with her sorority at new school. Signs up for recruitment and pledges another sorority where she becomes president of the chapter. Several years pass. In passing, mother lets it slip that daughter was president of her chapter of XYZ at 2nd State U. Slowly the story travels until it reaches the ears of a member of 1st Sorority at 1st State U. Phone call is made to National Panhellenic representative of 1st sorority who picks up the phone and makes call to National Panhellenic representative of 2nd sorority and like magic, young lady has lost her membership to BOTH groups. Your friend in the dorm made her choice. End of story!!

Hmm I see what you mean. At the same time it's silly though. They really should find out a way of monitoring it beforehand.

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1844356)
Indeed!

Look, I was able to figure narrow your friend's sorority down to four in a matter of 3 minutes. Oh, the wonders of Google!

Now, any sorority member from your school, which is easily identifiable because of your previous threads in which you mention Appalachian State, can see this and be on the look out for a transfer from NC State.

That's how they find out.

Actually, I just said she wasn't from NC State, that was a code name :)

Unregistered- 09-07-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844357)
Hmm I see what you mean. At the same time it's silly though. They really should find out a way of monitoring it beforehand.

What makes you think they don't?

UGAalum94 09-07-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844360)
Actually, I just said she wasn't from NC State, that was a code name :)

Yep, but they don't believe you.

It doesn't matter anyway. If it's anyplace that uses recs, there's a good chance people will find out in advance.

We once had a long-ish conversation here about whether we thought an all-NPC database of initiates was needed. I think most people thought not because transfer students are rare enough that every chapter can give them extra scrutiny background-wise.

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1844362)
What makes you think they don't?

Well obviously they didn't in that particular story/situation if that woman was able to join two sororities and later on be kicked out of both...

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1844363)
Yep, but they don't believe you.

It doesn't matter anyway. If it's anyplace that uses recs, there's a good chance people will find out in advance.

We once had a long-ish conversation here about whether we thought an all-NPC database of initiates was needed. I think most people thought not because transfer students are rare enough that every chapter can give them extra scrutiny background-wise.

I get what you're saying here even though NC State honestly was a code name.

I don't know enough about Greek life considering I'm not currently a member of anything. I'm not positive I'm going through recruitment anymore.

lovespink88 09-07-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844360)
Actually, I just said she wasn't from NC State, that was a code name :)

How convenient!

Hmm, why do I have a weird Deja Vu feeling suddenly?

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1844366)
How convenient!

Hmm, why do I have a weird Deja Vu feeling suddenly?

Maybe because you're not understanding what I'm saying...?

I just was asking an honest question, I didn't expect to be shunned...

Unregistered- 09-07-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844364)
Well obviously they didn't in that particular story/situation if that woman was able to join two sororities and later on be kicked out of both...

You're right, obviously they didn't. But then again we don't know when this took place. Rush was very different 10, 20, 30 years ago.

With social networking sites like Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, even GreekChat...it definitely makes it easier these days to find out if someone's trying to cheat the system.

Of course, someone who alerts the entire internet that a gal from her dorm's is trying to cheat the system makes it a whole lot easier too.

Don't worry about it. It isn't your business to interfere. Let the collegians and Panhellenic take care of it. Worry about your own rush.

Unregistered- 09-07-2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844365)
I get what you're saying here even though NC State honestly was a code name.

I don't know enough about Greek life considering I'm not currently a member of anything. I'm not positive I'm going through recruitment anymore.

Why?

UGAalum94 09-07-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844367)
Maybe because you're not understanding what I'm saying...?

I just was asking an honest question, I didn't expect to be shunned...

Um, shunning you would be nothing like this. If you were being shunned no one would talk to you.

Instead, you are getting kind of skeptical responses based on previous posters here who tended to pretend they were describing hypothetical situations or situations that applied to friends when it would turn out that they were asking for themselves.

Do what you want, but I wouldn't mistake GreekChat as being what real life greek life is like.

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:43 PM

I'm just not that sure if it's for me. I've met some of the girls in sororities at pre-Recruitment events and they all seem really nice but I'm not so sure if I see myself being in one.

UGAalum94 09-07-2009 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844372)
I'm just not that sure if it's for me. I've met some of the girls in sororities at pre-Recruitment events and they all seem really nice but I'm not so sure if I see myself being in one.

Okay. Good luck whatever you decide.

lovespink88 09-07-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1844371)
Um, shunning you would be nothing like this. If you were being shunned no one would talk to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMlGp...eature=related :D

UGAalum94 09-07-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1844376)

Awesome. Exactly.

AnchorAlumna 09-07-2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844367)
Maybe because you're not understanding what I'm saying...?

I just was asking an honest question, I didn't expect to be shunned...

Here's your answer, sweetie. No, there is no national monitoring system. There is no national clearing house. No one goes through the list of girls who've signed up for recruitment and checks each one's background.

There IS, however, a method known as sponsorship. A sorority alumna from the PNM's hometown who personally knows her sends a rec to the chapter. Or the chapter requests one from their alumnae in that town.

I have also seen advisors pick up the phone and call a sorority at the other school and ask politely if the PNM was a member there or at any other sorority on campus. It only took a call or two...and that was back before internet or cell phones.

I'm sure people have gotten away with joining and initiating two different groups. But very few do.;)

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna (Post 1844378)
Here's your answer, sweetie. No, there is no national monitoring system. There is no national clearing house. No one goes through the list of girls who've signed up for recruitment and checks each one's background.

There IS, however, a method known as sponsorship. A sorority alumna from the PNM's hometown who personally knows her sends a rec to the chapter. Or the chapter requests one from their alumnae in that town.

I have also seen advisors pick up the phone and call a sorority at the other school and ask politely if the PNM was a member there or at any other sorority on campus. It only took a call or two...and that was back before internet or cell phones.

I'm sure people have gotten away with joining and initiating two different groups. But very few do.;)


Finally an answer! Thanks :)

Maelynn1 09-07-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespink88 (Post 1844376)

Psh whatever. I just didn't expect to be treated so rudely. I was just asking a question that a lot of people have wondered before.

Just interested 09-07-2009 07:23 PM

In the situation of my story. The 1st chapter required a reference. It was the reference writer who called her National Panhellenic representative. The reference was for a young lady she had known since birth but did not live in the same state. She did however travel to 1st State U for the initiation. Young Lady knew very well what she was doing. She dodged all questions regarding her time at 2nd State U. Since reference writer lived 1000 miles away and no longer saw family it was easy.

The other school was in a part of the country where I believe references are not required or if they are she got them from people who didn't know her history. it was very slick but very upsetting to long time family friend.

gee_ess 09-07-2009 07:50 PM

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it was very slick but very upsetting to long time family friend.
Gosh, I bet so. I would be so ticked and hurt by any young woman who did this to me. In my mind, any reference I write means I am endorsing her/vouching for her/willing to say she is my sister. If I did that for a girl, and she turned her back on my gesture and threw away the opportunity she was given......well, let's just say my manners are keeping me from being more explicit!

Psi U MC Vito 09-07-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844381)
Psh whatever. I just didn't expect to be treated so rudely. I was just asking a question that a lot of people have wondered before.

Really? Only people who would wonder this would be somebody who is considering breaking their sacred oath. I would hope that the amount of people that is willing to do so would be very small.

ree-Xi 09-07-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844339)
How does NPC find out if a woman was already a member of another chapter previously?

There is a girl in my dorm who transferred from NC State and was initiated into a sorority not here. She wants to rush again and get into a sorority here.

How do they find this out exactly? I know that you can only be in 1.

THANKS!!!!!!! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844345)
Well just to let everyone know she did not go to NC State previously, that was a code name :) :)

But she was, however, initiated into a chapter we don't have here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844349)
He He yeah, I had heard of how posting too much true or specific info about your recruitment could hurt you in recruitment

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844360)
Actually, I just said she wasn't from NC State, that was a code name :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844365)
I get what you're saying here even though NC State honestly was a code name.

I don't know enough about Greek life considering I'm not currently a member of anything. I'm not positive I'm going through recruitment anymore.

The lady, she doth protest too much.

Which makes this post all the more suspicious...
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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1833300)
I'm sort of worried about going through recruitment this fall. The reason I'm so nervous aside from normal reasons is :: I'm a legacy to multiple chapters.

All of these chapters are on my campus! I'm nervous about how this will play out within Rush. Will sororities think it's weird/intimidating?

I am smart, attractive and super friendly. I don't see why I would not do well in recruitment but my family is telling me I should not put down all my legacies and pick 2 and just rush those 2 really hard. But how would I even begin to pick without knowing them? And I think you have to visit them all anyways.....Right?

I'm attending Appalachian State University

What do you all think?

Why wouldn't you list all of your legacy affiliations, or want to visit all of the chapters? I am confused by both of these posts. Not accusing, but suspicious. Why would you care so much what someone is planning to do?

lovespink88 09-07-2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maelynn1 (Post 1844381)
Psh whatever. I just didn't expect to be treated so rudely. I was just asking a question that a lot of people have wondered before.

Okay, that one had nothing to do with you. The Office is just amazing.

KSUViolet06 09-07-2009 10:47 PM

Geez, you grill out with your family for the holiday and look what you miss.

In short, there's no huge database of every girl who has ever been initiated into an NPC sorority, but in the age of Facebook/MySpace/etc, the sorority world is VERY small.

Even if you aren't immediately found out, it will typically come to light at some point that you were intiated elsewhere.

I believe that most NPCs will terminate the memberships of women who are found to have been members of other groups.

It also makes you look shady when you get caught.

So it's not something I recommend people trying to get away with.

PhiMuForever 09-08-2009 12:36 AM

She just wanted her question answered and here is what I think:

NO there is no definite way of knowing however, I'm sure whoever it is will be found out. IF you know, then I'm sure more people are going to end up knowing and it could spread around campus.

Also, If she joins one and posts that she is in one on her profile on facebook, myspace or whatever & the other sorority sees it... well, you get the picture!


Hope this actually does help you/your friend!

violetpretty 09-08-2009 08:16 AM

No, there is no NPC database.

But really, how could one get away with it? "The girl in your dorm" from NC State would have to defriend all of her NC State friends on facebook plus cease all communications with anyone who knew of her affiliation at NC State. Or, just delete everything about her new sorority on her fb page at App. People talk. She really won't get away with it.

Ask "the girl in your dorm" if she'd rather have membership in 0 or 1 sororities. Because those are her choices, eventually.


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