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NewAggieMom 08-27-2009 01:44 PM

DD needs advice - Texas A&M pref tonight...
 
Good morning.
Tonight is pref night at Texas A&M. DD had five parties yesterday for skit day. She had been cut from 2 of her 3 top favorites, but still had a great time. She still had 1 that she really loves, and is hoping for, 1 that runs a pretty close second, 1 that she feels ok about and 2 that she doesn't feel are a good fit for her for several reasons. She doesn't yet know which she will be invited back to for pref. I think they find out around 4:00 pm.

The matter that she would like advice about is this: Is it ok at this point, if she is lucky enough to be invited to her favorite, to express to them how much she likes them and is hoping to join them? I have told her all week to keep an open mind, etc. but should she be more enthusiastic to her favorite and more reserved at the houses she doesn't wish to join? In other words, how can she maximize her chances of getting her first choice?

Thanks for any advice.

KSUViolet06 08-27-2009 03:33 PM

At this point, you don't even know where she'll be invited for pref.

Heck, she may not be invited back to the favorite in question.

However, if invited to pref, she should definitely convey somehow that she is glad to be back (without being overly creepy about it).

There is no way to maximize ones chances of getting a bid from a first choice if you pref there. All she can really do is rank them first and see what happens. Whether she gets a bid depends on where she ends up on the chapter's bid list.

cbm 08-27-2009 03:35 PM

She should absolutely show enthusiasm and her desire to join her top choice house.

Benzgirl 08-27-2009 03:40 PM

and, she should be cordial and respectful to all of the women in the chapters she attends.

KSUViolet06 08-27-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1840450)
and, she should be cordial and respectful to all of the women in the chapters she attends.

YES.

Absolutely.

Just because the other chapters aren't her first choice, does not mean that she should show up to their parties and huff, pout, act bored, be rude, or otherwise disrespect the chapter. And yes, bored, disinterested behavior is rude.

Contrary to popular belief, this does not make you more likely to get a bid to your top choice. It just makes you rude.

Every chapter worked very hard to put together their Pref parties, so it's very important for PNMs to respect that and at least be polite.

ComradesTrue 08-27-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1840451)
YES.

Absolutely.

Just because the other chapters aren't her first choice, does not mean that she should show up to their parties and huff, pout, act bored, be rude, or otherwise disrespect the chapter. And yes, bored, disinterested behavior is rude.

Contrary to popular belief, this does not make you more likely to get a bid to your top choice. It just makes you rude.

Every chapter worked very hard to put together their Pref parties, so it's very important for PNMs to respect that and at least be polite.

Yes. This.

All PNMs would be wise to read this post. KSU is correct- it is an absolute myth that trying to convince your 2nd choice chapter to rate you low will make you more likely to get a bid to the chapter that you want. There is absolutely no truth to this.

Best to your daughter.

NewAggieMom 08-27-2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1840451)
YES.

Absolutely.

Just because the other chapters aren't her first choice, does not mean that she should show up to their parties and huff, pout, act bored, be rude, or otherwise disrespect the chapter. And yes, bored, disinterested behavior is rude.

Contrary to popular belief, this does not make you more likely to get a bid to your top choice. It just makes you rude.

Every chapter worked very hard to put together their Pref parties, so it's very important for PNMs to respect that and at least be polite.

My daughter would never dream of behaving in such a way, and I hope that my question about being "more reserved" was not construed to mean "behave rudely." She just wanted to know if it was alright to express enthusiasm at a particular house. (and, yes, she realizes that she may not even be invited back.)

The Rho Gammas have instructed them to be very honest this evening, so she will follow their advice.

KSUViolet06 08-27-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NewAggieMom (Post 1840460)
My daughter would never dream of behaving in such a way, and I hope that my question about being "more reserved" was not construed to mean "behave rudely." She just wanted to know if it was alright to express enthusiasm at a particular house. (and, yes, she realizes that she may not even be invited back.)

The Rho Gammas have instructed them to be very honest this evening, so she will follow their advice.

It's perfectly ok to express enthusiasm when visiting a chapter for Pref, as long as it's not overdone.

The point of my previous post was mostly to point out that acting less interested at other chapters, doesn't increase the chance of getting into your number one choice.

Alot of times, PNMs think that they love ABC, and if they convince MNO and XYZ at Pref that they are not interested, they'll for SURE get a bid to ABC.

Not so.

It's a common misconception and I wanted to clear that up just in case it was something you/your daughter/other PNMs were thinking.

Best of luck to her! I hope things work out the way she'd like them to.

ComradesTrue 08-27-2009 04:03 PM

^^^ my response (and likely KSU as well) was more directed at all PNMs and not necessarily your daughter. PNMs come on here quite frequently and comment about being rude in chapters that they are not as interested in. Many of them falsely believe that if the 2nd choice group ranks them high then that will trump them getting their 1st choice.

Bid matching doesn't work like that. There is no need to be quiet, disinterested, rude, or anything else. Good manners always win.

ETA: yep, KSU and I posted at the same time. Same thought pattern.

kdclm 08-27-2009 04:20 PM

Prefs are usually lovely parties where the girls will really feel the bond of sisterhood. She should be genuine in her feelings and emotions if she feels a strong bond with one of them and let them know. Tell her to not plan on what to say and let these emotions come naturally. I think it is very hard to go to a pref and not feel some kind of closeness or respect towards the girls in each chapter. I would not be overly or unnaturally enthusiastic--just tell her to be herself and all will be fine. Last week a friend of mine had a daughter go through rush. She was asked at one pref if she wanted to be an XYZ and she enthusiatically said yes. They told her they wanted her also. She put them first on her list but her bid did not come from then. It was a little bit of a shock but she is very happy with the house she has pledged. So anything can happen. Best of luck to her tonight

NewAggieMom 08-27-2009 04:47 PM

Thank you for your replies.

To Blondie93: You are absolutely right that many of the girls have the perception that their choice will be trumped by a high rank from a second choice. The system just seems like a mystery to them.

Crossing our fingers and trusting in the system!

AnchorAlumna 08-27-2009 04:57 PM

Heck, I'm an ancient alum and sometimes it's still a mystery to me, too!:p

Titchou 08-27-2009 05:42 PM

Anyone who has done hand bid matching totally understands how things happen. It was most enlightening to me and everything fell into place once I learned it. And yes, it is hard to explain unless you actually go thru the exercise so you can see how the names fall. But there is a method to it - honest!

Sue E. Pig 08-27-2009 09:05 PM

Is there any truth to the rumor that 1700 girls were signed up for recruitment? Another thread said 700, but my daughter said 1700. And you know, they know EVERYTHING!

NewAggieMom 08-27-2009 09:22 PM

My daughter has been telling me all week that it's about 750.
As in, when I ask if she has met a certain girl that I've heard is going through recruitment, she responds, "MOM, there are about 750 girls!" :)

sceniczip 08-27-2009 10:54 PM

Be sure to tell us how it goes with your daughter!

Your daughter sort of sounds like me. When people ask me if I know so and so at my university I go "we have 26,000 undergrads" and that's my answer :p

aggieadpi_01 08-27-2009 11:10 PM

While it has been 10 years since sceniczip rushed, I have to agree with her. I know about 750-800 rushed.

aggieadpi_01 08-27-2009 11:12 PM

Crap, I meant since scenezip and I have rushed. Sorry sceniczip if mucked up.

NewAggieMom 08-28-2009 12:13 AM

DD just got back from pref round. She is very happy and encouraged tonight. She did get invited back to all three of the houses she was hoping for. She said the decorations were gorgeous and elegant, the refreshments beautifully presented. The personal letters from the girls she talked with all week really made an impression on her as well.

I think she will be happy with whatever comes tomorrow.
Again, I feel so thankful that this has been such a positive experience for her.

aggieAXO 08-28-2009 12:48 AM

When I rushed 17 yrs ago there were about 600 PNMs (or in my time known as rushees)

Good Luck to your daughter, I am so glad she had a good experience.

SWTXBelle 08-28-2009 05:42 PM

Anyone have any Aggie news?

kdclm 08-28-2009 05:46 PM

Just heard that Kappa Delta got the second biggest pledge class out of all 12 sororities!

TXalum1 08-28-2009 06:03 PM

YaY!
 
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Originally Posted by kdclm (Post 1840902)
Just heard that Kappa Delta got the second biggest pledge class out of all 12 sororities!

That's wonderful. I've been waiting to hear all afternoon. This is the first time in several years I've not known a girl who attended KD pref. Any details?

NewAggieMom 08-28-2009 06:04 PM

They are in the convocation right now. Halfway through handing out the bids.
Suspense!

TXalum1 08-28-2009 06:14 PM

I just hate all this waiting!

kdclm 08-28-2009 06:15 PM

My daugher is extremely excited about their new pledge class and one girl especially who she preffed did pledge. Lots of excitement right now!

TXalum1 08-28-2009 06:19 PM

I always loved bid day. I wish they were having it a little later tomorrow at UNT. We always had it late in the afternoon. They hand out bids at 11, and I have a retirement party to attend for somebody from my chapter.

TXalum1 08-28-2009 06:20 PM

picture
 
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Originally Posted by kdclm (Post 1840917)
Yikes!! I didn't mean for that picture to be so big!! Sorry.

I can't see it. Maybe I should change computers.

CougarGrad 08-28-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TXalum1 (Post 1840919)
I always loved bid day. I wish they were having it a little later tomorrow at UNT. We always had it late in the afternoon. They hand out bids at 11, and I have a retirement party to attend for somebody from my chapter.


I'll be there tomorrow. I'll be happy to try and get a few photos and e-mail them to you.

TXalum1 08-28-2009 06:27 PM

K∆, first rush since they recolonized so we're excited.

I know somebody going to your pref party tonight and she is soooo nervous and excited about being there!

CougarGrad 08-28-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TXalum1 (Post 1840925)
I know somebody going to your pref party tonight and she is soooo nervous and excited about being there!

That's great! Our girls are happy to have her! They've been really excited about how things have gone this week.

Matter of fact, pref starts in... less than 90 minutes. :)

NewAggieMom 08-28-2009 06:49 PM

DD is a proud new ZETA !! She is over the moon!

CougarGrad 08-28-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NewAggieMom (Post 1840929)
DD is a proud new ZETA !! She is over the moon!


Yay for NewAggieMom's DD! Congrats to her and to Zeta!! :cool:

TXalum1 08-28-2009 06:53 PM

Congrats to her and to Zeta! She'll love it!

kdclm 08-28-2009 07:08 PM

Great news and congratulations to DD and the ZTA chapter at TAMU!

aggieAXO 08-28-2009 07:14 PM

Congrats to your daughter on ZTA!

Just interested 08-28-2009 07:31 PM

What a beautiful new home the Zeta's have at A&M. Your daughter will LOVE the A&M Zeta's congratulations. If I'm not mistaken quota was 46.

sceniczip 08-28-2009 09:48 PM

Congrats to your daughter on ZTA!

Benzgirl 08-28-2009 10:13 PM

Congrats to your DD and Zeta. She will love it.

EtaPhiZTA 08-28-2009 11:30 PM

Congratulations to your daughter! I love recruitment stories that end this way.;)


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