Where are all the Potential PNMs?
 

Does it seem that we have fewer PNMs (AKA rushees) on here than usual?

I miss 'em....and their "stupid" questions.:(

I'm not surprised that people are afraid to post here.....

Maybe they are reading the Sticky treads! That would be awesome.

wait doesn't the P stand for potential? SO you are looking for the potential potential new members?

OK, I checked the stats and right now, there are 23 members and 123 guests perusing the boards.

I'm guessing some of our replies have frightened away PNMs.

BUT....if they're reading old threads before they ask questions...that's a GOOD thing! :p

YOU are CORRECT!
I'm sorry.:( It won't let me correct the title.

I'm betting they are lurking. Or, maybe they are out at the lake or beach enjoying their last summer before college!! :D

Oh, to be young again! And, not sitting behind a computer at work!!

Just found out we are working tomorrow - WTH??

The majority of the PNM posts I've seen have just been in reference to the chapter reputations at their soon-to-be college. I bet more serious questions will be coming later. I agree with srmom - they just got of high school a few months ago and they're probably still out celebrating!

I never got the point of coming to this site as a nongreek and asking questions. If you have questions shouldn't you ask somebody at your own school? I do like this site for connecting greeks though. I have learned so much about NPC recruitment from this site. (My school doesn't have formal recruitment)

I agree to some extent.
There has been a facebook group created at my school saying "My School 2013" and one of the groups is "who is rushing in the fall?"
I got so sick of reading all the questions with the wrong answer getting answered I posted ( a big no no talking to PNMs but whatever) and was like "CONTACT PANHELLENIC"

I have to add to my earlier post:

TPTB CAME TO THEIR SENSES AND WE ARE NOT WORKING TOMORROW!!!

HIP HIP HOORAY!!! :D

Sorry, back to regularly scheduled programming. ;)

QFP

Just so you know, not everyone here is a snarky bitch. Some of us just don't appreciate the craptastic attitude some people have, so we have stopped posting when it comes to giving advice. Some of us are also tired of parents who live a greek experience vicariously through their children and want to know why their dearest darlings were cut because they are so fabulous and wonderful.

I'm a PNM!
 

The Stickys about recruitment are very helpful. :) Just sayin'.

Checking in as a PNM who spends the time I am visiting GC to read through any and all thorough old recruitment threads. Thanks for the time you have all dedicated to leaving useful information for PNMs to use- it is very appreciated.

Don't lie, you biaaaas have a twitter account that is followed by GC meanies so they are immediately alerted to the post and can be mean to these poor PNMs who grew up with the internet but lack the ability to search.

Yay for the pnms who are reading the stickies and old threads!! We heart you!

This thread has an LOLCat -- it is now complete!

Where are the rushees? As an adult who reads this board because it can be interesting and/or amusing, I would never suggest to a pnm that she read a lot of what is being said here in recent times. The old stuff can be basic training for recruitment. The current discussions? Ladies, it can be good fodder for a writer of a television show. But the snarky behavior, the nasty comments, the vicious attacks...to quote Bethenny Frankel, "very DIScountess." (That makes sense is one is familiar with the RHONYC). If you aren't, some of the contributors are not a credit to any organization, school or women in general.

(And now I will step off my soapbox and be flamed.)

Yeah, cause the Real Housewives of anywhere are the epitome of class and they say so many wonderful things. (No, I do not watch the shows.)

You are taking offense to things that ARE NOT about you, and you really need to chillax really really soon.

I have to agree. I watch RH and each and everyone one of them is a hot mess in their own way. Not really the type of ppl I would count as mentors

swerving/

The funniest thing is when someone types something and tries to predict a flaming.

I waited with baited breath and there was no flaming, although I'm interested to know what a woman has to do or say to be a credit to women.

/swerving

I am not taking "offense" in that I know that things are not being written about me or to me in general. I know however if I am in at a gathering and a classless act breaks out almost everyone is waiting to watch the trainwreck up close and personal .

If I were a young woman thinking about recruitment, but vascillating, and I read some of the attacks/counter attacks I might take a step back. What I have read might reaffirm/confirm some of the less than pleasant things that I have heard/read about rush and sorority women.

Dr. Phil:

People can predict that they will be flamed when they say some unpopular or controversal. They may also be flamed when someone who enjoys attacking just for sh***s and giggles decides to go on a rampage.

It is also called character: The ability to have an opinion that is possibly unpopular, state it in a neutral (Not "Hey B...) way, explain the position knowing that there are some who will violently disagree and yet are secure enough to state what seems to them to be a salient point.

If all it takes is the internet to stop someone from joining a sorority they were just looking for an excuse to not go through with it. If a PNM can't separate the internet from reality, a few people from a larger group; and not find out for herself, then she likely has a weak to non-existent grip on reality and life.

I disagree with this and the idea that one should only be concerned about the personal.

I think it's fine that people would prefer GC to be a little better representation of Greek life in general than it sometimes is.

I don't mean that everyone needs to stifle himself or herself all the time, just that sometimes when people flip out and they've got their letters out there, it's hard not to see it reflecting on the community at large.

If you really stick around and get a feel for personalities, your impression of the site and the genuine helpfulness of some of the members, especially members that might be most controversial, changes. But that's a lot to ask from a girl who just wants to know what to wear to first round, or unthinkably by GC standards, what the chapters are like at her campus before she gets there.

Screw it. It's so not even worth it.

Tippiechick:

Me thinks that you protest much too much. I was not referring to you. If I were interested in blasting someone (emphasis on ONE as in person) I wouldn't waste my energy on a internet snarky comment.

My observation was directed to parts of the site in general. For example to women who say to a rushee who is trying to write a real time story and are stalked by contributors who let everybody know what school the girl attends. Or people who attack a kid who may be asking a question that has been asked before and vultures attack with why are you so dumb? (They're young, inexperienced, too lazy to research whatever.) My point is simply ignore the question. Let someone with more patience answer it. (Remember a two year olds constant WHY question?) And again Tippiechick...I am not referring to you specifically.

If I wanted to attack you personally darling, I wouldn't be hiding inside a thread. I would say it straight out. You, personally, aren't worth my time.

OK, now I'm pissed.

There was only one public "outing" recently and the girl who did it (who is an extremely sweet person) was very contrite and thought everyone knew the rushee's school already. She didn't "stalk" and wasn't trying to be mean. The truth of the matter is that between the rushee choosing a name that shouted her location and her utter lack of discretion, many people knew the school after the first post. She had multiple warnings that she was basically showing her underwear and chances to go back and edit, which she ignored.

The only "vultures" I have seen are in the ever popular "what are the reps of the sororities at blahblah U" threads, and that's because after the PNM is told, firmly but nicely, that reputations are NOT discussed on here, they keep pushing.

All I can say is that often when I read a true threat about rush I see comment after comment, "I know what school she goes to!" or "It could only be one of three schools!" I think that it is ............." "And, I know which house it is" And again, I really don't look at individual posters that often, I don't doubt that the woman you refer to is a sweet person in real life. I am sorry that you are pissed. But, if you go back and look at real (not fantasy) threads you will see dozens of the aforementioned comments.

Not that I agree with it (because I, for one, dislike it when people make those comments) but how is that "stalking?" Most of the time the PNM is not very discreet about not telling where they go to school or whatever. Being able to figure out where a PNM goes to school by putting 2+2 together does not equal stalking.

Perhaps, but there's no rule that says you have to respond to a post.

co-sign!

And what isn't said is, "if people from out of the state who graduated 10 years ago can figure out this school in 2.5 seconds, perhaps you should be a bit more discreet in case any current sorority members at your school are reading this and wouldn't like what you're saying." Oh wait, that DOES get said sometimes. If it isn't sugar coated and tied with a pretty bow, that's because longtime posters here have learned that sugar coated and tied with a pretty bow doesn't get the message across.

I'm sorry that you apparently see the worst in people, and think that anyone who makes a comment like that is doing so with the intention of ruining a PNM's rush or "stalking" them.

Aw, come on. Sometime, yes, you're right; the poster is told in a positive to neutral way, but another pretty high percentage of the time, it's just like what's happening here. There gets to be a whole lot of unwarranted attitude.

You're sorry that she, one of the more positive posters IMO, sees the worst in people? Really?

As a PNM I read the stickies and use the search button. And I love reading recruitment stories because they get me pumped up for this fall. /end

No need to QFP me. I'm not going to delete my original post in hopes of gaining anyone's approval. There is one point on which I agree with Tippiechick wholeheartedly- you can disagree with me, and that's ok. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Yes- you are correct. Some awfully sad questions get posted here. I am certain that even the most tolerant GC'ers find their patience tested at times. After all, "I am going to XYZ University and I want to rush. Can you tell me who the awkward, ugly sorority is because I am so awesome I want to avoid the losers...." should not be posted by anyone with a shred of common sense.

Last point- you don't need to tell me that not everyone on here is a snarky bitch. Actually, there are many posters on here who are a credit to their organization. Others, however, make me wonder if they are just as miserable in real life.

She was a positive poster, I agree, until she got a Mt Rushmore size chip on her shoulder because she thought something was referring to her that wasn't referring to her.

And again - if girls can't handle anonymous people on the internet telling them things straight up, no way no day are they going to make it through a competitive rush.

Getting back to the original question, which is why are there fewer PNMs posting. Maybe they are 1) reading the stickies and getting their questions answered and 2) realizing their question is too school specific for us to answer and going directly to their Greek life office. If those are the reasons, I think anyone who is sad about the "lack" of PNMs is a giant lame-o.