Leaving NPC
 

Maybe I am in the right spot! i just joined and am trying to figure the forum out!!

Okay so about 2 years ago, my local sorority joined the national pan-hellenic council. we have 2 other sororities that are national at our school also involved. We have that campus thingy too. lol, sorry for bad terminology, i dont really understand it all. anyways, my main point is wanting to know if there is a way out???

I think its great and does a great job for national sororities, but not for our local one. we made a mistake and we dont want years and years of traditions down the drain because of it. we are local and have been for almost 150 years...and we like our way of doing things...so in no way am i saying anything bad about the NPC

but if anyone knows where i can read about it or anything, please let me know. I tried the website but didnt see anything but i could have missed it.

Thank you very much.

lol, sorry i made it sound so confusing! yes, we are in it at my school, and would like out.

Research your campus' Panhellenic Bylaws and/or talk to your Greek Advisor. Every campus is different.

I was wondering the same thing... I'm interested to hear what they are being forced to change.

I know, at my school, if a local left the IFC (IFC governs over all of our Greeks), they would not be able to participate in rush, have a pledge process, or a bunch of other (mainly recruitment related) things. They would just be a normal organization that happened to have Greek letters in their name.

But every campus is different so check your Panhel bylaws.

Do you mean that your local is an associate member of your Campus Panhellenic or that your local was absorbed by one of the 26 NPC sororities?

They might not want to participate in formal recruitment, or it might be that they're being forced to invite girls back that they do not want. There's people on here who said their Panhel made them do this.

Or they might have had to jack up their dues to pay the Panhel dues.

IrishLocal, why did you join Panhel after 150 years of being independent? Were you forced to? If they forced you on they're probably not going to let you off.

If you're at a public school, you should be able to just quit panhellenic. Tell 'em you no longer consider yourselves members or to be bound by their rules and stop showing up... or just stop showing up.

Unless there's something forcing you to stay, you don't have to stay.

If you're at a private school, whole different ballgame. You may be stuck. Talk to whoever coordinates greek life.

Those are great examples, however, it is hard for me to understand that Panhel dues or formal recruitment could infringe on "chapter traditions"

(Maybe the recruitment one I could see a teeeensy bit if they had a tradition of having recruitment events at, say, Dave & Busters instead of a chapter room with a bunch of chairs & tables... maybe they have only charged $x-amt in dues to their members since they started, but I don't know that I would characterize that as a 'tradition')


^^^ those (IMHO) seem to make more sense with "chapter traditions". Being affiliated with NPC does come with a lot of rules that many locals may not want to comply with.

I'd also be interested to hear what made the local want to join the local Panhel in the first place if they wanted to keep everything the same.

Well, if it is a "hazing" issue, I would think if they're that bound and determined to do whatever during pledgeship they'd get around it. That has nothing to do w/ being on Panhel.

The recruitment I meant more as they do not want just anyone showing up at their rush parties - they want to invite who will rush and if they are compelled to participate in formal, they can't do that.

And I was thinking along the lines of they are use to having guys participate in the rush activities as well as booze and other things the NPC recruitment prohibits.

I hope to heaven that you're not an Ep Sig. If you are, know that even getting out of Panhellenic will not allow you to make your pledges drill in front of the admin building and in WalMart as well as wear stupid costumes to class.

But given her user name and the almost 150-years-old part, I suspect that she is.

Me too. I already tipped off one of the administrators.

Ah, the anonymity of GreekChat. :rolleyes:

Good call, Carnation! I haven't seen you around in awhile. Is there an ep sig thread about this?

Hi, AOIIAngel! Until 4-5 years ago, there were 3 local groups at Shorter and they hazed viciously. I started a thread back then--something like "Nationals at my College"?--anyway, I taught there back then. The thread tracked the change of one group to Phi Mu and the addition of Zeta. Ep Sig stayed local due to intense alum pressure and Pi Sig folded. I think the thread talked about the hazing as well.

If this local is not something the students want, it will die on its own.

If there are still students who are dumb and want to participate in hazing, they have a place to go.

You can't legislate or NPC away stupid. Methinks if the alum pressure was that intense and the actives bowed to it, they'd still be doing all this stuff even if they had gone with an NPC group.

What a lot of folks on campus say is that the women who can't afford the nationals pledge the local, not knowing the difference, and then the local hazes the snot out of them. Next round of recruitment, same thing happens with a new group of victims, er, new members. I hope it's not true.

QFP

$$ issues or not, if they stick around to be hazed, then they are stupid. Or they like being known as the "tough ones" who stuck it out.

Like I said, if that element is present on campus - and the campus as a whole hasn't shamed them out of doing it or out of existence - you can't make it go away. It just goes underground, which is worse.

hmmmmm

This is why I stick around.... actually, one of many reasons but yeah. :D

Ah! A good old-fashioned GC outing. That's the stuff!!

Ah, the power of the interwebs! :rolleyes: :D

So whatever happened with that...?

I don't know, I never called back to see. Both the Greek Life co-ordinators were in school with 2 of my daughters, so I knew they'd take me seriously.

The Ep Sigs probably wanted to reinstate their office of Head Leprechaun--the person in charge of hazing (not kidding here)--and PanHel wouldn't let them.

:eek: I sooo wouldn't want to be known as the Head Leprechaun not just because of the hazing aspect but because it sounds ridiculous. You can't even pretend to put that on a resume. wtf?

From looking at the three groups web site's (all of which are well put together) it appears Ep Sigs numbers are not on par with the other groups so it probably is a matter of time. Hopefully, they will catch on that certain behaviors are unacceptable and most
college age women find any form of hazing demeaning and they will get with the program. I think the OP is long gone but the topic is interesting. How do local groups and NPC groups function under the same umbrella on campuses?

Dang, who could blame the PNMs for choosing the nationals? LOL.

Shorter is changing and the one thing that changed it more than anything was the addition of a football team that began to win right off. National championship games were held in town and attention was drawn to the school, new and exciting majors and academic programs were added, and enrollment began to climb. Local kids who wouldn't have dreamed of going to college in town are going to Shorter now.

There are still some crappy traditions hanging around, AFAIK. There was this "honor society" (that self-selected its members) called Secret Sophomore Sabots. We called them the Saboteurs because even though they had this secret membership who was supposed to do wonderful things, they preferred to sneak into campus buildings at night and literally turn everything upside down. (Like all the desks in the main building, which those of us who taught 8 AM classes would discover when we entered to teach. I always walked right out and went home.) A few years ago, they covered the upper campus with tiny metallic green confetti and YAY! Finally they got caught and were forced to pay hundreds for the clean up.