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oldu 05-25-2009 02:40 PM

# of NPC sororities per campus
 
I have just completed some research on the number of N.P.C. groups on each campus and I think the results may surprise many of you. First, there is a total of 661 institutions that list N.P.C. sororities, which amazed me because that means that the largest N.P.C. group has chapters at only approximately one-fourth of all N.P.C. campi. Secondly, the overwhelming majority of institutions have five or less N.P.C. sororities. Thirdly, only 4% of women going through rush (at only 26 institutions) have the opportunity of being introduced to at least half of all N.P.C. groups.

At 76 institutions only one N.P.C. sorority is listed; 98 have 2; 129 have 3; 105 have 4; 74 have 5; 50 have 6; 20 have 7; 25 have 8; 17 have 9; 10 have 10; 16 have 11; 5 have 12; 5 have 13; 9 have 14; 2 have 15; 5 have 16; 2 have 17; 0 have 18; 1 has 19; & 2 have 20.

With an average of 8.47 N.P.C. groups per institution, Pi Beta Phi meets the largest number of N.P.C. sororities. They are followed closely by Kappa Alpha Theta, Delta Gamma, Kappa Kappa Gamma and Delta Delta Delta. The smallest number is Theta Phi Alpha with 3.49 and Alpha Sigma Tau with 4.07. Those two, plus Alpha Sigma Alpha, Delta Phi Epsilon and Phi Sigma Sigma, are at a number of single chapter institutions. I have the complete list if anyone is interested.

A few other observations stood out: Miami U. has more N.P.C. groups and Bowling Green has the same number as a much larger Ohio State. O.S.U., along with Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota & Wisconsin, have a huge number of inactive N.P.C. groups. The same is true on the west coast with Cal, U.C.L.A. & Oregon.

Anyway, the above N.P.C. sorority trivia gives us something to talk about during the summer hiatus when not much Greek life is occurring.

lovespink88 05-25-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1811975)
With an average of 8.47 N.P.C. groups per institution, Pi Beta Phi meets the largest number of N.P.C. sororities. They are followed closely by Kappa Alpha Theta, Delta Gamma, Kappa Kappa Gamma and Delta Delta Delta. The smallest number is Theta Phi Alpha with 3.49 and Alpha Sigma Tau with 4.07. Those two, plus Alpha Sigma Alpha, Delta Phi Epsilon and Phi Sigma Sigma, are at a number of single chapter institutions. I have the complete list if anyone is interested.

I'm always interested in stuff like this, but can you explain this further? ^^ I don't quite understand it.

oldu 05-25-2009 03:24 PM

There is an average of 8.47 N.P.C. sororities at institutions where Pi Phi has chapters; 8.39 where Theta has chapters; 8.34 for Delta Gamma & 8.27 where Tri Delt chapters exist; etc. There probably was better way to list it. Sorry.

pshsx1 05-25-2009 05:19 PM

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Those two, plus Alpha Sigma Alpha, Delta Phi Epsilon and Phi Sigma Sigma, are at a number of single chapter institutions.
Delta Phi Epsilon is the only NPC on our campus! Funny that you mention that :P

And, since you said Miami has the most NPC groups, that explains why it was such a shock when my chapter visited and the sorority houses never seemed to end.

33girl 05-25-2009 05:41 PM

More veiled sorority superiority statistics! How jolly! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

epchick 05-25-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1812013)
More veiled sorority superiority statistics! How jolly! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

That's what oldu does best! :rolleyes:

agzg 05-25-2009 06:43 PM

Ugh. Seriously? Why is it so surprising that some smaller campuses have more sororities than larger campuses? Take a look at total and the percentage of greeks in the student population at schools and I'm sure it won't be so shocking.

Stupid threads are stupid.

violetpretty 05-25-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1812008)
And, since you said Miami has the most NPC groups, it sure was shock when my chapter visited and the sorority houses never seemed to end.

I thought Penn State had the most.

Kevin 05-25-2009 08:58 PM

Have you done this sort of research with regard to NIC-like fraternities?

I'd actually be really interested to see where everyone ranked.

ThetaPrincess24 05-25-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1812013)
More veiled sorority superiority statistics! How jolly! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

lol!

PiKappUKY 05-25-2009 10:03 PM

Do you have a list broken down by conference, such as the SEC? I know UK is at 14 and we're adding two more this fall and next fall.

pshsx1 05-25-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 1812044)
I thought Penn State had the most.

heh, misinterpreted this:

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1811975)
Miami U. has more N.P.C. groups and Bowling Green has the same number as a much larger Ohio State.


KSUViolet06 05-25-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by violetpretty (Post 1812044)
I thought Penn State had the most.

That's what I thought as well, either that or Illinois.

That Miami stat is false.

ThetaDancer 05-26-2009 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1812102)
That's what I thought as well, either that or Illinois.

That Miami stat is false.

I don't think he's saying Miami has the most chapters of any college in the country. I think he's trying to say that Miama has more chapters than say, Ohio State, which is a larger school (therefore people would assume it would have more chapters). He didn't word it very clearly.

jennyj87 05-26-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1811975)
I have just completed some research on the number of N.P.C. groups on each campus and I think the results may surprise many of you. First, there is a total of 661 institutions that list N.P.C. sororities, which amazed me because that means that the largest N.P.C. group has chapters at only approximately one-fourth of all N.P.C. campi. Secondly, the overwhelming majority of institutions have five or less N.P.C. sororities. Thirdly, only 4% of women going through rush (at only 26 institutions) have the opportunity of being introduced to at least half of all N.P.C. groups.

At 76 institutions only one N.P.C. sorority is listed; 98 have 2; 129 have 3; 105 have 4; 74 have 5; 50 have 6; 20 have 7; 25 have 8; 17 have 9; 10 have 10; 16 have 11; 5 have 12; 5 have 13; 9 have 14; 2 have 15; 5 have 16; 2 have 17; 0 have 18; 1 has 19; & 2 have 20.

With an average of 8.47 N.P.C. groups per institution, Pi Beta Phi meets the largest number of N.P.C. sororities. They are followed closely by Kappa Alpha Theta, Delta Gamma, Kappa Kappa Gamma and Delta Delta Delta. The smallest number is Theta Phi Alpha with 3.49 and Alpha Sigma Tau with 4.07. Those two, plus Alpha Sigma Alpha, Delta Phi Epsilon and Phi Sigma Sigma, are at a number of single chapter institutions. I have the complete list if anyone is interested.

A few other observations stood out: Miami U. has more N.P.C. groups and Bowling Green has the same number as a much larger Ohio State. O.S.U., along with Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota & Wisconsin, have a huge number of inactive N.P.C. groups. The same is true on the west coast with Cal, U.C.L.A. & Oregon.

Anyway, the above N.P.C. sorority trivia gives us something to talk about during the summer hiatus when not much Greek life is occurring.

areyou sure about these numbers? it was my understanding that chi omega had the most chapters...?

ThetaDancer 05-26-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jennyj87 (Post 1812218)
areyou sure about these numbers? it was my understanding that chi omega had the most chapters...?

He's not talking about which sorority has the most chapters in general...

jennyj87 05-26-2009 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThetaDancer (Post 1812220)
He's not talking about which sorority has the most chapters in general...

Well yes I understand taht part. But if Chi Omega had the most chapters, wouldn't they have the highest average of chapters? Or am I just looking too much in to the numbers?

I'm sorry, my brain is on overdrive because of summer classes....

ComradesTrue 05-26-2009 04:05 PM

he is talking about the number of other chapters on campuses with each group.

So, if the organization with the most chapters was only on campuses with one other chapter (hypothetically..) then it wouldn't matter how many chapters that group had, oldu's average would still be 2.0.

ThetaDancer 05-26-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jennyj87 (Post 1812227)
Well yes I understand taht part. But if Chi Omega had the most chapters, wouldn't they have the highest average of chapters? Or am I just looking too much in to the numbers?

I'm sorry, my brain is on overdrive because of summer classes....

What? Um well, no, I don't think you do understand that part. You're talking about something different than he is.

He's talking about the number of chapters at schools, then looking at which sororities are at schools with the most chapters and which are at schools with fewer chapters. So, while Chi Omega may have a lot of chapters, to use your example, perhaps they are at schools that have fewer NPC chapters, while Pi Phi apparently tends to be at schools that have a greater number of NPC chapters.

I don't think he worded it as clearly as he should have because it's really confusing.

For the record, I really don't care about this topic whatsoever...I'm just trying to explain what oldu wrote.

jennyj87 05-26-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 1812229)
he is talking about the number of other chapters on campuses with each group.

So, if the organization with the most chapters was only on campuses with one other chapter (hypothetically..) then it wouldn't matter how many chapters that group had, oldu's average would still be 2.0.


ohh okay. I get it now :)

breathesgelatin 05-26-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1811975)
With an average of 8.47 N.P.C. groups per institution, Pi Beta Phi meets the largest number of N.P.C. sororities. .

Yay! My sorority is better than everyone else's!!!!

...or not.

OneHeartOneWay 05-27-2009 10:47 AM

Clearly I'm in the minority, but I actually think this information is kind of interesting, and could be useful. As an advisor who works with several campuses (campi? I never liked that word...) with varying sizes of NPC chapters in their Panhellenic (from 3- 13), I think it can help explain some things. If one of my chapters on a smaller campus is considering a new recruitment structure, for example, the other organization(s)' response may be dictated by thier "comfort Level" of smaller campuses, and vice versa. I would like to see the full list of information compiled.

oldu 05-27-2009 02:21 PM

Several people have contacted me for a list of the schools which have at least half of the NPC sororities currently on campus:

Illinois, 20 (5 inactive NPC groups & 1 never there)
Penn State, 20 (5 inactive & 1 never there)
Indiana, 19 (5 inactive & 2 never there)
Auburn, 17 (no incative & 9 never there)
Georgia, 17 (2 inactive & 7 never there)
Alabama, 16 (5 inactive & 5 never there)
Florida, 16 (3 inactive & 7 never there)
Miami, 16 (7 inactive & 3 never there)
Purdue, 16 (3 inactive & 7 never there)
Washington, 16 (4 incative & 6 never there)
Florida State, 15 (7 inactive & 4 never there)
Virginia, 16 (4 inactive & 7 never there)
Bowling Green, 14 (2 inactive & 10 never there)
Iowa, 14 (6 inactive & 6 never there)
Maryland, 14 (6 inactive & 6 never there)
Missouri, 14 (8 inactive & 4 never there)
Nebraska, 14 (5 inactive & 7 never there)
Ohio State, 14 (10 inactive & 2 never there)
Texas, 14 (7 inactive & 5 never there)
Washington State, 14 (3 inactive & 9 never there)
Iowa State, 13 (3 inactive & 10 never there)
Kansas, 13 (6 inactive & 7 never there)
Michigan, 13 (10 inactive & 3 never there)
Michigan State, 13 (7 inactive & 6 never there)
Tennessee, 13 (5 inactive & 8 never there)
Virginia Tech, 3 inactive & 10 never there)

It is amazing that every NPC groups that has started a chapter at Auburn is currently active. It could be that there is less pressure on non-housed chapters to maintain numbers expected by the national organization.
The huge number of inactive sororities at Michigan & Ohio State shows how badly the Greek scene has deteriorated at some of the Big Ten schools. There is expansion activity at some of the above schools. Alpha Epsilon Phi has colonies at Michigan & Miami. I believe ZTA is also going to return to Michigan. With the Alpha Phi expansion to Kentucky next year they will also have 13 NPC groups. If there are any others, please advise.

Without naming specific groups, as that somehow sends some of the drama queens into hysteria, the NPC sororities with the smallest number of chapters at the largest Greek systems are those which began life at teachers colleges, or were originally Jewish or Catholic oriented.

epchick 05-27-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1812472)
Several people have contacted me for a list of the schools which have at least half of the NPC sororities currently on campus:

Then why didn't you just give them this information through PM. Haven't you already made threads about this anyways?

33girl 05-27-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1812472)
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The huge number of inactive sororities at Michigan & Ohio State shows how badly the Greek scene has deteriorated at some of the Big Ten schools.

This statement is stupid. If you are going on more sororities = better Greek life, IUP has a better Greek life than Ole Miss. (I don't think in terms of prestige or campus involvement that that is the case. Call it a kooky hunch.)

Also, without including dates of the chapter closures and reasons, the OMG SO MANY CLOSED CHAPTERS statistic means nothing.

agzg 05-27-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oldu (Post 1812472)
Without naming specific groups, as that somehow sends some of the drama queens into hysteria, the NPC sororities with the smallest number of chapters at the largest Greek systems are those which began life at teachers colleges, or were originally Jewish or Catholic oriented.

You are officially an idiot.

tri deezy 05-28-2009 05:56 PM

I think this stuff is interesting.

HuskyAlum 05-28-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tri deezy (Post 1812834)
I think this stuff is interesting.

Me too. I don't appreciate trying to determine what organization is "better" than another, but I am a stats person so I enjoy looking at Greek Life from this angle.

Just interested 05-28-2009 10:27 PM

Until we get another Baird's published, I guess Oldu will just have to do. But again, I am bit of a history buff and find it rather interesting from that perspective. I guess is a bit of a viewpoint of his intentions.

UGAalum94 05-28-2009 10:43 PM

I find it interesting too, but it seems to have a kind of un-panhellenic subtext occasionally. I'm not sure that Oldu intends that or if people sensitive to that read it in.

I don't think there's any harm in publishing it. I'm happy I joined the group I did and stats that don't put us on top don't really affect that. There are some NPC brands that seem more elite to most people; don't we all know that? It doesn't reflect on the sisterhood available elsewhere really, does it?

I also seriously doubt that PNMs evaluate the group they want to join based on these types of criteria, unless they are looking for some way to break an impossible tie in their own feelings.

kddani 05-29-2009 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Just interested (Post 1812906)
Until we get another Baird's published, I guess Oldu will just have to do. But again, I am bit of a history buff and find it rather interesting from that perspective. I guess is a bit of a viewpoint of his intentions.

If it were just straight up statistics, I don't think most people would have a problem. It's when he makes assumptions and opinions based upon those statistics that make him lose credibility and respect.

crescent&pearls 05-29-2009 12:10 PM

The stats from the past are interesting, but I think of most of the campuses listed above as having reached maturity as far as the number of chapters they will ever have at one particular time. And some of them are clearly affected by population shifts south and west.

What about growth in the modern era (say since 1985?) What campuses have grown from one or two NPC chapters to say, eight or more?

irishpipes 05-29-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1812008)
And, since you said Miami has the most NPC groups, that explains why it was such a shock when my chapter visited and the sorority houses never seemed to end.

Miami doesn't have sorority houses.

exlurker 05-29-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1813079)


OTW and irishpipes, about the comments and pic ^^^ : ummm, Thank you both for posting and keep up the good work.

jessica.lanelle 05-29-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 1813078)
Miami doesn't have sorority houses.

LMAO.

pshsx1 06-01-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 1813078)
Miami doesn't have sorority houses.

I meant houses where a lot of the sisters live. I know there aren't sorority houses but that's the next best thing.


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