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I just need to vent. What a MISTAKE!!!
Thank you everyone!
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I'm sorry. I don't know what QFP means...
Thankyou for replying though... |
Either quit or make the best of it.
If nothing else, it must feel great to be sitting in a room *knowing* that you're better than everyone else, yes? |
Not really, lol!
When I tell others I'm affilliated with this org, I see the disrespect spread across their faces! Conversley (sp?), some people say "YOU'RE an 'XYZ?!...that CANT be possible!". It's because these women have such a bad reputation for being sloppy, and so on...I wish I could quit...and go to another org, the one that's truly in my heart, but I know I can't. It's just not possible. For anyone else reading this who is young or on their way to college/Greek life...RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!!!! PLEASE!!! |
I find it hard to believe that every member of a large national organization is unkempt or dirty. Especially since (I'm assuming, here) it's an NPHC organization. I also find it hard to believe that a large national organization is not allowing you networking opportunities. Perhaps you should take the initiative and put yourself in contact with area alumnae.
Sounds like you've got a case of buyer's remorse. It happens. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do about it as far as joining a different organization. I realize I'm out of my lane here, greekchatters, but I would assume that these situations are similar as far as NPC v. NPHC v. NALFO. |
I agree with Kevin. Quit or make the best of it. At the very least, have the respect for your sisters -- who you once chose and also chose you -- to not slander them in such a way.
If you really think it's so bad, run for a leadership position and try to effect positive change. Do you have sisterhood activities? Organize a "spa day" and give each other manicures, hairstyles, etc. Do an etiquette workshop, or a do's and don'ts fashion show. You're not getting out of this organization and getting into another one. Try to make a positive experience out of it. |
Concur. Quit or try. You're doing absolutely no one any good by whining. You should either dissociate and go on with your life or attempt to make a difference.
If this is an NPHC group, you will have the connections and mentorship you seek. You just might actually have to take the initiative to go find them. Try and take a leadership role and see if you can begin to steer your chapter in a direction you'd like. Get your friend who agrees with you on your side and work to make your group better. This is a much better use of your time and energy. If you look for the benefits, I'm sure you'll find them. If you're not willing to put in the work for that, it's probably best if you leave. |
I appreciate all of the advice. I'm just curious as to why you've all assumed this is a NPHC organization?
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Plus, because you said "induction" and not "initiation" I can almost guarantee that I know which sorority it is. |
While it isn't that much of an indicator anymore, the mention of handsigns was another clue for me. (Many NPCs use handsigns now though.)
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Just wow at this post...
I'm glad someone QFP'ed this. I think it's easy to assume it's an NPHC organizations from mentioning things like "soror" and "handsign," though we all could attest that it could be a non-NPHC GLO... In any case, it's up to you to take the initiative to make certain things happen. Just because you see others in different organizations with a "leg up" on opportunities, doesn't mean they simply got this from their membership with a certain org. I'm sure these women are qualified, despite their membership privileges and have taken it upon themselves to initiate contact with others and create the opportunities they want to see/partake in, whether it's in their careers or communities. Perhaps, you should consider joining another chapter. If you're in a metro area, you may have several to choose from or you could consider simply participating as a member-at-large and continue the work of your organization that way (or continue participating in the service you've been doing with other organizations). And as others have posted, perhaps, you should just quit the organization and find a "better" use of your time. |
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could someone tell me what QFP means? Forgive me. I'm not hip to the lingo on this site :)
Thanks. Also, out of respect for the org itself, all I can do is allow others to assume they know which one it is. I won't mention the name of the group, it's NPC/NPHC or NON NPHC/NPC afilliation, etc. I mean, I feel what I feel, and I appreciate all of your advice. I thank you all for not giving me a hard time about this rant. I just really needed a place and space to speak my mind freely and get this off of my chest. It's a pretty heavy load to carry.... |
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The same goes for the chapter. If you want to see change, create it. Even if it's small change. Take on leadership roles. Recruitment or New Member Director (or whatever they're called in your org) might be good ones to strive for. And I have to ask... how long have you been a member? Did you just join this semester? Because if so, remember that there will be many people who come after you. Maybe the chapter will gain some different new members and completely turn around come fall. But if this is the case, and you did just join, and after another semester or two you are still completely unhappy, then consider dropping and becoming involved in something that you'll enjoy. |
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On another note, if this NPHC, I would love to know what she thinks are "unladylike" colors. I mean it's not like there's a sorority whose colors are black and gray. |
Im not really sure what you "saw"...what I basically meant was that I don't take an ounce of pleasure in any kind of "assumed" notion that I am better than anyone. I'm not attempting to start a back and forth, or be argumentative, I just wanted to be clear on that. When I said "not really", I basically meant that I take no pleasure in being thought of as "better than" anyone, or telling myself that I am.
But lets be clear folks...some things are a given! Your hair should be combed Your clothing should be well kept and clean You are a representative of yourself, your greek family, your personal family, etc. You should carry yourself like a lady with class. Extensive drinking, shouting, etc. is not necessary. Being an "XYZ" does not make you better, but it should prompt you to be your best. If someone meets you and you tell them what org you are in, they should be impressed based on the way in which you speak and your overall appearance. Please don't make it seem as though I'm not saying what others are thinking. And I've tried to initiate change. It's either too much trouble, no one has the time, or the money, or I am labeled as being "stuck up" because I like to do my hair, dress nice, wear makeup, and I carry myself a certain way. I LIVE for community service, but I've found that the rules and constraints of a sorority, coupled with the overall lack of people really stepping up to get the job done, makes it difficult for me to do things in my community (in the name of my sorority, that is. I do a great deal on my own). The bottom line is that I feel like I noticed so much more after I came in...I'm sure we could all say the same about our respective orgs. And as far as duration goes, I've been going strong now for almost 4 years. It's pretty disheartening knowing I can never go back... |
If you're just wanting to vent, there's really no need to be defensive.
You know that you can't join another organization in the council. Do as others have said -- initiate change, serve elsewhere (another chapter or a service organization), or turn in your letters. The end. |
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Thanks for your thoughts...but I'm not really sure why you say I'm being defensive. Thank you anyway, and have a good day :) I understand my options, and I honestly think I am very close to choosing the last one you mentioned. I don't feel I would be of great benefit to an org that isnt really on my heart. And out of respect for those ladies, as well as myself, I think I should remove myself from the org. Thanks again! |
You're welcome, and good luck.
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First, you have no right to post volatile comments on GC like this using terms like "Soror" and "induction" thereby narrowing down choices as to who you are and what organization you are in. It is disrespectful to your chosen, select and paid for organization. If you have a problem with your sorority sisters, you confront them in an organized setting. If you are too scared to do so, being a neophyte, I can imagine how scared you are, then revoke your membership... Get expelled or go inactive. And once you make that decision, do not back down. We are all adults making adult choices. Blaming your lack of family familiarity and experience shows that you lack trust and support from your own members who actually saw you as an asset to the organization! One of my closest friends who is a member of DST, practically became chapter president within 5 years of her membership!!! She was that well put together. It is my understanding she connected up with what her International Organization requested all chapters were to do at the time... That is a matter of KNOWING YOUR DOCUMENTS!!! How well do you know yours? Constitution & Bylaws? Other documents all members must know? Who are your mentors within your organization--locally, regionally, Internationally? I could see if you had 20 years under your belt and were burnt out... But 4 years? Wow!!! After 4 years, I felt like I was still pledging for the hayle I caught... I did not feel like full-fledge member until 10 years of membership!!! Get it together and stop disrespecting your sorority sisters publicly! |
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I appreciate your response. To answer your questions, I know my Constitution and Bylaws front to back. I know my history front to back, I know my past and current officers front to back. This is part of the reason why I AM so down. Because I've given so much to this org, and I feel like it's just not for me.
As far as what's being done publicly, I've not named my org, anyone's names, etc., as my intention is not to be inflammatory and rude. It was to come here and vent HONESTLY about what I feel. That's all. I'm not here to debate whether or not I have the RIGHT to these feelings, or the right to voice them, because I do. I'm not here to debate 4years of membership vs 10. There are some people that do more work in 2 years than someone who's been around for 40! It's not about any of that. It's not about putting my expectations on others. I feel as a member of an org, I am a representative of the whole, and vice versa. I'm not happy with the reflection, that's all. And I'm not making excuses, I'm being honest. I've never blamed this choice on anyone. It was my fault for not educating myself, and I admit that. I can turn in my letters, I can formally ask to resign, and be granted that request, but I can't then go to another org because the rules don't allow it. However, at the rate things are going with this org...they may not be around much longer, and I may be granted the option of going elsewhere, or I may not. Who knows...I'm just down in the dumps about this...that's all. It's about the bottom line...that I came here merely to vent, and I thank you all for your responses. |
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I didnt mean it that way. Now you're being defensive :) I meant just what Senusret I said, exactly as I said as well. We all learn more after we join. I didnt mean anything more than that. |
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I seriously doubt that. I'm lane-swerving here, but with what I can see, I highly, highly doubt this statement. Sure, your particular chapter may not be around, but the organization will still exist. And I'm pretty sure a chapter losing it's charter doesn't grant you the opportunity to join another NPHC sorority. Quote:
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Geez, you sleep in and you miss all the fun around here, lol.
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Every chapter has a different dynamic...I think that's something important to keep in mind. There are always good and bad things in any organization and in any chapter, but there are things one can do to improve certain things, ignore certain things, or disband themselves from certain things. |
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See, here's the thing, if you were denied membership, you'd be writing angry letters to the International office as to why you were blackballed! So sad. Really, because it says something about how you view sisterhood in your Sorority through the lenses of your current chapter. What did you expect people would say here? You thought you had GC friends? You thought you could share this with random people where you could not feel you could share to your sorority sisters or to their faces? WTH? You don't trust your own sorority to do right by you? That's really lame... Please, turn in your letters... Save your Sorority the grief... |
Thank you for your OPINION AKA Monet.
You may now refrain from talking to me. Oh wait...you don't HAVE to refrain from anything. Because much like it's my right to vent, in this forum if I choose, it's your right to respond. I don't think I have "GC" friends. Nor was I seeking agreement, hand holding or head patting. I merley came to vent. You came to read and respond. Now that we are clear...you can move on :) And no one can GUESS what org I am referring too. It must have flown over my head that only NPHC orgs say "Soror". That's news to me. If anyone is GUESSING or ASSUMING what org I am referring to, that very well may prove why these issues are of concern to me. The very fact that people I've never met, on an online forum MAY be able to ASSUME which org I am referring to, is pitiful. It means the rep of the org is obvious, and that's a shame. |
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Ask yourself why you have a heightened response, then ask yourself why you cannot answer my questions? You wanted honest feedback and understanding didn't you? Otherwise, you would have put a huge comment in bold letters not asking anyone to respond in kind. Doubt anyone would have ignored your posts, though. The other issue is that everyone knows what happens in chapter meetings, stays in chapter meeting. That is a part of sisterliness, privacy and confidentiality. You made some effort to commit to your demoted sorority. That is what I take issue with. Why an invitation was extended to you to join, one will NEVER know. Unfortunately, you are somebody's sorority sister, which makes you look more pathetic... You are out of the pecking order here... Keep responding to my posts, the more I have to dissect your misdirected comments... Welp, out of respect, of your foot and mouth disorder, I will stop responding to you. When you need help, you know where you can find it. A request for your IP address can be made, but no one cares enough to know your dysfunction. |
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But really humblerumble, if you really cared about the values and mission of your sorority you would have taken the initiative to do something about these perceived problems (instead of complaining) and shown some compassion to your sisters (instead of disdain). Just my opinion... |
That's really not a flounce....the person she was talking to has said the EXACT same thing to other posters on this board.
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Hmm perhaps I could have used a better word choice. In any case, my opinion on the OP's commitment to her sorority remains the same
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