Michael Vick and Job offer
 

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New York arena team offers Vick a contract
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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP)—Michael Vick has a place on a minor league football team if he can get reinstated by the NFL.

The Albany Firebirds, an arenafootball2 franchise, have offered the 28-year-old quarterback a one-year contract at the league standard: $200 a week plus a $50 bonus for a win.

Vick quarterbacked the Atlanta Falcons for six seasons before being convicted of bankrolling an interstate dog fighting business.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has not said if he will lift Vick’s suspension after he completes a 23-month prison sentence. Vick goes from federal prison to home confinement next month.

The Firebirds’ contract offer requires that Vick donate $100,000 to a local humane society.

A call to Vick’s agent was not immediately returned.

I saw this on yahoo a few minutes ago, and laughed my @$$ off...

$200 a week. Nice.

LOL

He has to donate $100,000 to be able to get a job that pays him $200 per week. Hahahaha . . . it'll take him 10 years to recoup his "entrance" fee.

You know what...looking at it for what it's worth...the man paid for his crimes...he went to jail and lost his money and job and Lord only knows what else in that time.

How much more can he be punished for what he did?

A lot.

You can start by mutiliating, shocking, hanging, drowning, and beating..........exactly what happened to many of his dogs.

There is no place for him in the NFL......where it is a privilege to play, not a right.

He still has money. Cry me a river.

I guess the story isn't really a story anymore. I clicked on the link above and read this:

"The owner of a minor league football team that offered Michael Vick a contract told a newspaper he didn’t know about the publicity stunt and would not have approved it.
“I’m a dog lover and I don’t want anything to do with (Vick),” Albany Firebirds owner Walter Robb told The Times Union for a story posted on its Web site Tuesday night.

Earlier in the day, the team an arenafootball2 franchise, announced it had offered the 28-year-old quarterback a one-year contract at the league standard: $200 a week plus a $50 bonus for a win.

“That’s a joke,” Robb said. “Can you imagine him playing for $200 a week? I think (the offer) was a big mistake.”

The announcement was later pulled from the team’s Web site."

He deserves to be shot in the balls. Plain and simple. There is a LOT more that should happen to him. He needs to be made to pay ALL his money to animal rescue groups.

He shot rot in HELL.

If I was his agent I would tell him to:

1. Volunteer for a tour of duty in Iraq
2. Train hard for special forces
3. Write a book about his life after he got out of the military
4. Sign million dollar NFL contract as he is now "reformed"

I think that he's suffered enough already and would like to see the guy succeed. Its funny that we allow people who have taken other people's lives (Leonard Little, Ray Lewis) in the NFL but if you hurt a dog then they send out the lynch mob.

They used to refuse felons from serving, and still should. I don't think he has suffered enough, because he still doesn't think that he did anything wrong. To him, it was just a dog.

This is kind of a bizarre thing to say - first, because I haven't seen anything resembling these statements since he started serving his sentence (so you seem to be reading a lot into this). Can you cite anything in particular that gives you this impression? Or is it just general cynicism?

Second, the "to him, it was just a dog" portion seems like an odd choice of damnation - to you, it's a family member. To him, it's not. Why is he more 'wrong' in the abstract (i.e. removed from the actual cruelty)?

The guy's pretty f-ed in general - it'll take something extreme on his part to entice a team to suffer the PR backlash of taking a chance on him years after his last productive season (and there were general questions about productivity even then). I can relate to the anger and outrage, especially from dedicated animal lovers, but the guy's served his time and will now serve a very public penance. That seems like enough for me - he's lost the overwhelming majority of everything.

I love animals, but wow. Just wow.

Yeeeeaaah.......I was being facetious.

I agreed with you right up til you got to Ray Lewis.

There was (and still is) never 100% proof that he killed anyone.
Overwheming testimony never showed that he stabbed anyone but acted as a peacemeker thru the incident.

He was tried and found innocent for the alleged crime. Also, he is paying a settlement to the family of the murder victim....so let it go.

You would have been better served by saying Lawrence Phillips or Rae Carruth (although Rae is RIGHT where he belongs)

What the guy did was terrible, and he deserved the penalty he received. But, at this point I think he's served his time and should be able to pursue whatever employment he chooses.

Now...if NFL teams are staying away from him for a legitimate reason (bad PR, fear of repeated behavior, concerns about actual football skills at this point, etc.), that's a different story. He was a young athlete who made a series of horrible choices, and lost his image (as well as part of the prime of his career) as a result.

...look at Kobe...if that isn't a comeback story, I don't know what is.

Had Roger Goodell been commish in 1998 you can bet that Leonard Little wouldn't have played football again.
Nobody is giving him a free pass, but it was a different game than it was now........now you have to actually own up to your mistakes.

Ray Lewis was never convicted of any wrong doing and, from what I can remember, there was zero evidecne to sugest he had any role in the stabbing deaths resulting from the fight that broke out. The two guys with him were acquitted too. He has an excellent reputation within the leage and is a big time charity guy.

Well hey...if Paris Hilton can walk for DUI............... :)

True dat

Either way, this says something about what public percetion is after you have 'paid for your crimes'.

You pretty much get a scarlet letter for the rest of your life which is why in some cases we tend to see a lot of repeat offenders.

Agreed?

Michael Vick is done in the NFL. No team wants to risk the bad PR, and there WOULD be a ton of bad PR. Fans just don't want to cheer for someone like him, and no team wants someone so toxic that not even the hometown fans will cheer for him.

Even if he one day wrote a book and went on a speaking tour promoting how he's "reformed," he'd be so rusty (and getting old for a pro athlete) that I don't think teams would view him as a physical asset anymore.

Ok...Now I am serious...Kobe rebounded well from bad PR and like him or hate him, he is probably better now than he was before so who is to say that Vick can't do the same? He may not command the same kind of money but he still may wind up playing ball somewhere.

If nothing else he still may wind up a social pariah similar to OJ

I know parties involved in the settlement and he is very responsible for what happened. I don't want to give too much away and get anyone in trouble but he deserves to be in jail, not on the football field.
Rae is not where he belongs- he belongs six feet underground.

Solution: Don't commit felonies.

PhiGam.

With respect to what you said...if you were there and you saw what happened...cool...if not then let's leave it at conjecture...otherwise, a jury found him not guilty and then we KIM.

Now Rae...nah....let's leave him 6 feet above so that every day he breathes he can think about the baby whose life he ruined and the mother that he killed.

His "apology" was ridiculous, he spoke of himself in the third person like it wasn't him that did these horrible acts, but another "Michael Vick." Second, it just wasn't sincere. Finally, his actions since then haven't reflected proper remorse.

I realize that different cultures (even inside the US) view animals differently, but the crimes he committed go far beyond cruelty to sociopathy.

I also have issues in general with the idea of felons serving in the military, which should be full of noble, courageous men and women.

Kobe was accused of sexual assault, which is terrible, but he was never even tried for it - he alleged it was consentual. What Michael Vick did was, like kstar said, sociopathic. Absolutely scary, unprovoked violence, and incomprehensible in its cruelty to creatures dependent on his care. Very cold, calculated, and apparently serial in its nature. Americans own - and spoil - pets because we appreciate the comfort, joy and companionship they give us, and it is unthinkable to most that anyone would want to harm them for kicks. Michael Vick has something wrong in the head to think that torturing and killing dogs is fun. To me, Kobe has nothing on him. Vick is poison to anyone who involves themselves with him.

And you have something wrong to be a sexual predator (alleged one anyways) point is...Kobe almost got run out of the league because of it BUt because he was never brought to trial all we got was the tidbits...BUT public opinion court made him out to be a rapist for a very long time.

Vick on the other hand has served his time and paid for his crime...but public opinion court isn't done with him yet...obviously.

Dude he was never almost run out of the NBA. It was a big deal because of his high profile. The press conference with his wife and the hope diamond that he gave her didn't help.

Most people from the get go thought this was a setup. Didn't that slutbag have traces of splooge from multiple guys on her?

Hah!! Gross!!

But yes. But you know....I guess on who you talk to, the NBA is not as hard on their players when there are rules broken as the NFL is.

i fthat was the case Ron Artest and Latrell Sprewell would have been out a long time ago

oh yeah...riiight!!!

Wonder where she is now...hmmm...ooohhh GOOOGGGLLEE!!

Totally serious (and not challenging you at all): what could he have done, from prison and while fighting over his money, to "reflect proper remorse" in your eyes? I suspect the answer is (and should be) "nothing" but I'm genuinely curious.

I applaud your idealism, but this isn't even remotely the case today, is it?

For Vick to actually show that he regretted what he did, he should be doing more than paying for the care of all the rescued dogs. He should be donating 95% of any paycheck that he ever gets to animal charities, I doubt the courts would have fought that. He should be apologizing and meaning it, not talking about the different "Michael Vick"s. He should be voluntarily entering the care of a psychiatrist.

And while it isn't the case today, since more soldiers are dying in an unjust war and causing more people to not want to join the military, it used to be the case that felons were refused, and not just accepted to make quota. Though, I think that more than one felony is still a disqualifying offense, and he has 3?

Well, knowing what I know there's no way that I can pretend to not hate him.

And moving right along...