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DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 12:11 AM
The Watchmen
 
Just came from the screening tonight.

My thoughts:

It was a good movie but in no way in comparison to the Dark Knight so please don't go with that expectation.

Pretty good book adaptation even tho a lot was cut (to be expected of any book to movie) it still went panel to panel

Also, due to that, it's also a heavy movie if you never read the comic or have a passing interest in this flick. If you aren't vested in this film you will get lost quite easily so please don't expect this to be a Point A to Point B flick.

Otherwise....come Friday, go see this extraordinary movie and if you have any questions you want to know about this movie, PM me.

Scale of 1 to 10 it's an 8

moe.ron 03-03-2009 03:42 AM
Can't wait to see this movie. Herd they changed the ending though.

cheerfulgreek 03-03-2009 05:37 AM
I treated myself to a movie last night. I went to see "Taken". Great movie btw. A must see. When I left the theater, there was a huge line. I asked one of the people that worked there which movie it was for and he said it was for The Watchmen.

I don't think any movie can be as bad as the Dark Knight.:rolleyes:

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1785920)
I treated myself to a movie last night. I went to see "Taken". Great movie btw. A must see. When I left the theater, there was a huge line. I asked one of the people that worked there which movie it was for and he said it was for The Watchmen.

I don't think any movie can be as bad as the Dark Knight.:rolleyes:
Nah...but for those that really appreciated the comic, I think they would like the movie.

It may take a few watchings to fully digest it.

moe.ron 03-03-2009 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1785946)
Nah...but for those that really appreciated the comic, I think they would like the movie.

It may take a few watchings to fully digest it.
The comic book itself is definately not your run of the mill, bad guy versus good guy comic book. I read reviews that this movie will polarized people, either people will get it and love it, or don't get it and hated it. Haven't seen the movie, but if they go by the graphic novel, I can understand that.

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1785952)
The comic book itself is definately not your run of the mill, bad guy versus good guy comic book. I read reviews that this movie will polarized people, either people will get it and love it, or don't get it and hated it. Haven't seen the movie, but if they go by the graphic novel, I can understand that.
That is true..it was ahead of it's time even by 1980's standards and if you fail to grasp the contemporary elements of the period, then you will miss a big part of the movie.

DrPhil 03-03-2009 11:16 AM
I won't read the book (I assume it's the book version of a comic book) but I'll see this movie because it reminds me of XMen.

I've always been a comic book buff so I initially thought Watchmen was a comic book that I was unaware of. I'm still waiting for some storyline to be revealed since I'm unfamiliar with these characters.

ETA: Just read moe.ron's post. It is a graphic novel like I thought. I won't have the chance to read that but I like graphic novels.

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 11:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1785970)
I won't read the book (I assume it's the book version of a comic book) but I'll see this movie because it reminds me of XMen.

I've always been a comic book buff so I initially thought Watchmen was a comic book that I was unaware of. I'm still waiting for some storyline to be revealed since I'm unfamiliar with these characters.

ETA: Just read moe.ron's post. It is a graphic novel like I thought. I won't have the chance to read that but I like graphic novels.
It's nothing like the X men.



If you aren't going to read the book between now and Friday, read it after you see it.

DrPhil 03-03-2009 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1785976)
It's nothing like the X men.
I know the storyline isn't, from what I gather from it. I'm talking about the way the characters look.


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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1785976)
If you aren't going to read the book between now and Friday, read it after you see it.
I'll never read the graphic novel.

Hopefully the movie is done well enough that I can understand it without that.

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1785977)
I know the storyline isn't, from what I gather from it. I'm talking about the way the characters look.




I'll never read the graphic novel.

Hopefully the movie is done well enough that I can understand it without that.
Question: What do you think the movie is about?

DrPhil 03-03-2009 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1785980)
Question: What do you think the movie is about?
I've asked myself that everytime I see the trailer. :p

Okay, it's 1985. There's tension between the Soviet Union and the US. Nuclear war, and all that stuff. The Watchmen are vigilantes investigating a murder of another superhero.

The rest, I have to get from http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

I have no idea why I didn't read or even know about this graphic novel when I was little.

cheerfulgreek 03-03-2009 12:01 PM
The Watchmen....who were they watching? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/71.gif

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1785983)
I've asked myself that everytime I see the trailer. :p

Okay, it's 1985. There's tension between the Soviet Union and the US. Nuclear war, and all that stuff. The Watchmen are vigilantes investigating a murder of another superhero.

The rest, I have to get from http://watchmenmovie.warnerbros.com/

I have no idea why I didn't read or even know about this graphic novel when I was little.
all I can tell you is that you are in the ballpark...don't spoil the rest of it.

and Cheerful...When you see the movie you may want to rethink what you stated about the title. :)

DrPhil 03-03-2009 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1785998)
all I can tell you is that you are in the ballpark...don't spoil the rest of it.

and Cheerful...When you see the movie you may want to rethink what you stated about the title. :)
These cryptic posts are building my intrigue. I'm supposed to see it this weekend.

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1786004)
These cryptic posts are building my intrigue. I'm supposed to see it this weekend.
I won't say anymore.

As a matter of fact I will go as far as saying that if you haven't done so, DO NOT read the early reviews because some of them had way too many spoilers within them

Go see and get back to me when you are done.

moe.ron 03-03-2009 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1786007)
I won't say anymore.

As a matter of fact I will go as far as saying that if you haven't done so, DO NOT read the early reviews because some of them had way too many spoilers within them

Go see and get back to me when you are done.
Yeah, most of the reviews I've read gave spoillers. Trust me, if you've never read the graphic novel, go into the theatre with knowing only what they tell you with the trailers. You'll be suprised, I can almost say, you will be like, wow.

KSigkid 03-03-2009 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1785989)
The Watchmen....who were they watching? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/71.gif
It's interesting you come into these threads (the comic book movie ones) and essentially mock anyone who has an interest in them.

I mean, I'm not a comic or graphic novel fan myself, but I can at least appreciate that there are people who are justifiably pumped to see this movie.

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1786028)
It's interesting you come into these threads (the comic book movie ones) and essentially mock anyone who has an interest in them.

I mean, I'm not a comic or graphic novel fan myself, but I can at least appreciate that there are people who are justifiably pumped to see this movie.
Ksig, I don't think she was mocking anyone.

I actually laughed...know why?

I actually found what she said funny and thought provoking because what she said (altho I am not sure if she knows this or not) was actually a reoccuring theme throughout the movie.

Ease up a bit on her, ok?

KSigkid 03-03-2009 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1786036)
Ksig, I don't think she was mocking anyone.

I actually laughed...know why?

I actually found what she said funny and thought provoking because what she said (altho I am not sure if she knows this or not) was actually a reoccuring theme throughout the movie.

Ease up a bit on her, ok?
Yeah I'm probably just being grumpy...carry on.

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1786039)
Yeah I'm probably just being grumpy...carry on.
Go grab a bite to eat, man...calm down...it's all good over here.

matter of fact, can you get me some Arby's?

I'm good for it!

DrPhil 03-03-2009 01:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1786028)
It's interesting you come into these threads (the comic book movie ones) and essentially mock anyone who has an interest in them.

I mean, I'm not a comic or graphic novel fan myself, but I can at least appreciate that there are people who are justifiably pumped to see this movie.
I think you're also thinking back to what she (wasn't it cheerfulgreek?) did with the Dark Knight thread. :)

agzg 03-03-2009 01:57 PM
Live-in is super excited to see the movie (he has read the graphic novel) and I suppose I'll need him to fill in the blanks for me.

Mostly the reason I'm going is because often times if a movie doesn't appeal to me I send him off with his brother to see it, yet I constantly drag him to movies that he doesn't want to see. This time I'm giving in, the previews look cool, and I like a lot of the music from the trailers.

I made the poor guy and his best friend go to both Sex and the City and He's Just Not That Into You with me - I owe him this movie.

DrPhil 03-03-2009 04:11 PM
I just saw a commercial that highlighted one of the female superheros.

If I had to only go based on that commercial, I wouldn't see the movie.

DaemonSeid 03-03-2009 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1786152)
I just saw a commercial that highlighted one of the female superheros.

If I had to only go based on that commercial, I wouldn't see the movie.
That's actually a good thing...kind of...sometimes when they advertise these types of movies, they give away too much of the movie and then you are disappointed.

AKA_Monet 03-07-2009 10:14 PM
DS--

Saw the Watchmen today. I liked the storyline. Easy to follow because I have been into comics for awhile. While I cannot tell the storyline off the bat like my husband can, who really is a comic book fan with sellable books in the $100s right now, with Deathloks et al., I am an Anime fan, like Usherman, The real Robotech and ZetaGundam... I digress...

I think for those who really didn't grow up around the 99 Luftballons' time, might have some issues...

And all I can say is there are a quite a few butts and penises hangin' around... :rolleyes:

Too many blue penises... But that works, too... ;)

nate2512 03-07-2009 11:36 PM
I never read the book or anything, but as it was the only playing I went and watched it with a girl. The storyline made sense and all and I got it, but this movie just didn't really didn't do anything for me. I realize that for it do any justice to the book it needed to be that long, but I got bored.

As for the director, from technical aspects, despite the adversity the movie had, the pictures and graphics were amazing, I thought it rained a bit much though..lol...I didn't however think they were anywhere comparable to 300.

DaemonSeid 03-08-2009 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1787764)
I never read the book or anything, but as it was the only playing I went and watched it with a girl. The storyline made sense and all and I got it, but this movie just didn't really didn't do anything for me. I realize that for it do any justice to the book it needed to be that long, but I got bored.

As for the director, from technical aspects, despite the adversity the movie had, the pictures and graphics were amazing, I thought it rained a bit much though..lol...I didn't however think they were anywhere comparable to 300.
Dont take this the wrong way but this was kind of the reaction I was expecting from some people.


Can i ask...was you expecting more action or a faster pace?

DaemonSeid 03-08-2009 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1787741)
DS--

Saw the Watchmen today. I liked the storyline. Easy to follow because I have been into comics for awhile. While I cannot tell the storyline off the bat like my husband can, who really is a comic book fan with sellable books in the $100s right now, with Deathloks et al., I am an Anime fan, like Usherman, The real Robotech and ZetaGundam... I digress...

I think for those who really didn't grow up around the 99 Luftballons' time, might have some issues...

And all I can say is there are a quite a few butts and penises hangin' around... :rolleyes:

Too many blue penises... But that works, too... ;)
Somewhere out there a gay smurf was prolly drooling.

nate2512 03-08-2009 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1787777)
Dont take this the wrong way but this was kind of the reaction I was expecting from some people.


Can i ask...was you expecting more action or a faster pace?
Definitely a faster pace. I figured it start out a little slow, as most movies do, but this one just never really picked up pace. I understand why it was done that way, to those who know nothing about it, they needed to establish the characters and the plot, and that just took a while. The fight scenes were pretty solid. I do think , that if Greengrass's original shot at it would have went to production, we would have saw a much faster paced theatric, and a totally different style completely.

The characters have much more complexity than the characters of X-Men, Transformers, 300, so it definitely took longer to fully engage the viewer and their opinions of each.

DaemonSeid 03-08-2009 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1787786)
Definitely a faster pace. I figured it start out a little slow, as most movies do, but this one just never really picked up pace. I understand why it was done that way, to those who know nothing about it, they needed to establish the characters and the plot, and that just took a while. The fight scenes were pretty solid. I do think , that if Greengrass's original shot at it would have went to production, we would have saw a much faster paced theatric, and a totally different style completely.

The characters have much more complexity than the characters of X-Men, Transformers, 300, so it definitely took longer to fully engage the viewer and their opinions of each.
actually...no...you wouldn't have gotten a faster pace...the movie was done close to the comic as possible...as a matter of fact if the intro was done as it was in the comic (it's own chapter) it would have slowed the movie even more.

Believe me when I say you got a good adaptation of the comic.

My prediction is this weekend great start but the following weeks will be a question mark

Smile_Awhile 03-08-2009 04:30 AM
I saw it at the midnight premiere- I wanted to see it before, and why turn down the premiere? It was the calmest premiere I've ever been to though...

My thoughts:

I knew uber-basic plot going in, but I did know I liked movies in this vein (dark, psychological superheros). It didn't disappoint in that respect.

There was some stuff I felt could have been cut- it made the movie drag, IMHO.

Overall, a very good movie. Maybe not "great", but still pretty fabulous.

DaemonSeid 03-16-2009 03:18 PM
Not surprised.
 
Watchmen" dropped a big 67% from its opening domestic grosses to register $18.1 million in second place. Universal's Rogue-produced horror pic "The Last House on the Left" bowed in third place with $14.7 million, while Fox Atomic's youth comedy "Miss March" stumbled into theaters with just $2.4 million in 10th place.


Watchmen box office sales drop...Witch mountain number 1

It's been 2 weeks...feel free to ask questions and drop spoilers.

moe.ron 03-16-2009 09:33 PM
There was some part of the movie that they could've take out. The love making part, it was just dumb. Felt like there was no chemistry between them. Even if they just implied they made love, it would've been better and would not drag the movie down

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I'm still pissed that the squid was taken out. Although I can understand why they took it out.

DaemonSeid 03-16-2009 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1791262)
There was some part of the movie that they could've take out. The love making part, it was just dumb. Felt like there was no chemistry between them. Even if they just implied they made love, it would've been better and would not drag the movie down

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I'm still pissed that the squid was taken out. Although I can understand why they took it out.
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The squid was there but it was changed as it was not the cause of NYC's destruction per the book


also I thoght the fight scene was overdone.

moe.ron 03-17-2009 03:50 AM
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DaemonSeid 03-17-2009 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1791343)
I know that the squid did not do anything. However, the squid was seen by the people as the threat toward the human race and caused the world to unite to fight against this out of this world enemy, real or not. Also, I didn't like that Dr. Manhattan was used as the fall guy, kinda defeat the who purpose of what Veidt was going for.

On the other had, I can understand why they didn't go with the squid. The average moviegoer would think it was dumb to see a dead squid in manhattan. Hehe

My favorite line in the whole thing have always been:

Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago.

Moe

I will wait a bit before I debate the point of that with you because that is the endgame of the movie and the thing we should wait til last to spoil is the ending...

moe.ron 03-17-2009 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1791351)
Moe

I will wait a bit before I debate the point of that with you because that is the endgame of the movie and the thing we should wait til last to spoil is the ending...
I think we should start another thread, cause what Moore wanted to do is a whole other thread. Hahaha.

I swear, I've read the series more then 4 times, and I always get something new with that book. Moore is a genius

starang21 03-17-2009 08:46 AM
i really really really could have done WITHOUT the blue twig and berries swinging around.

but other than that, the movie was good. relatively close to the comic. moreso than most adaptations.

epchick 03-20-2009 02:15 AM
Apparently, after talking with friends, my opinion is totally different than theirs, but I thought this movie was beyond HORRIBLE!

I watched with my mom and brother, and my mom was the only one who read the book. She liked the book, but all 3 of us wanted the 3-hours back.

Why did they feel the need to make John anatomically correct instead of just ambiguous, and the sex scene in "Archie" was unnecessary.

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

agzg 03-20-2009 09:12 AM
That's the thing, I thought it was too sexy and too gory. Live-in said it was because the director does movies that are sexy and gory - I've never seen 300 or Sin City.


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