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Munchkin03 02-17-2009 12:28 PM

13 Year-Old Becomes a Dad!
 
No, this didn't come from Florida!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2233878.ece

"Alfie’s dad Dennis yesterday told how the lad does not really understand the enormity of his situation — but seemed desperate to be a devoted and responsible father. "

Springeresque antics have ensued already. Several "lads" have come forward alleging that they're really the baby daddy.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2240802.ece

Discuss. He looks so little! :(

Army Wife'79 02-17-2009 01:18 PM

I'm putting my "mean hat" on for this one. Has anyone seen his face? He looks like he's 7 yrs old!! Where are all these insane people coming from lately???

DaemonSeid 02-17-2009 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1780511)
No, this didn't come from Florida!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2233878.ece

"Alfie’s dad Dennis yesterday told how the lad does not really understand the enormity of his situation — but seemed desperate to be a devoted and responsible father. "

Springeresque antics have ensued already. Several "lads" have come forward alleging that they're really the baby daddy.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2240802.ece

Discuss. He looks so little! :(


Munchkin...not to take away from this and I am not being crass or anything...but this isn't surprising anymore.

This is a testament really to how how child rearing is spiralling out of control in this world.

Sadly , we hear about teen mothers who get pregnant so why should we be surprised that this teen mother got preganant by a 13 year old boy?

What are we teaching these kids?

Because hey, if they are going to have sex early, this is the result.

Maybe we should be shocked that the girl is 15 and he was 12 at the time...

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/ffxi.../470patten.jpg

ThetaDancer 02-17-2009 01:32 PM

This whole story is crazy to me, but especially the part about Alfie's estranged dad showing up wearing a devil mask...what?!?!

Munchkin03 02-17-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1780525)

Sadly , we hear about teen mothers who get pregnant so why should we be surprised that this teen mother got preganant by a 13 year old boy?

I'm not surprised by what happened--teenagers have kids all the time. But, what surprises me is how the UK media has gone full hog over it. That and the fact that he looks 8.

The whole thing is crazy. Did you see Alfie's mom? Loved the Chanel shades she was rocking out.

DaemonSeid 02-17-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1780535)
I'm not surprised by what happened--teenagers have kids all the time. But, what surprises me is how the UK media has gone full hog over it. That and the fact that he looks 8.

The whole thing is crazy. Did you see Alfie's mom? Loved the Chanel shades she was rocking out.

The Chanel shades?

Word.


it's crazy, but it just gives more reason now why we have to do what we can with our kids to raise them up right so that they won't wind up in the papers for stuff that happens enough that it sometimes doesn't warrant a news story...Iguess i would have been more surprised if the boy hadn't hit double digits or something.

AGDee 02-17-2009 01:50 PM

The only thing I find surprising is that a boy who doesn't look like he has even started to go through puberty yet is capable biologically...

Munchkin03 02-17-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1780540)
The only thing I find surprising is that a boy who doesn't look like he has even started to go through puberty yet is capable biologically...

He doesn't look like he has even started to go through second grade, yet along puberty. One of the articles quoted a UK doctor who said that 10-12 is about the point where sperm starts to be released with emissions; it has been reported to happen to 6 year-olds. Ewww!

The line-up of wannabe fathers is surprising to me.

DaemonSeid 02-17-2009 02:06 PM

Ladies...I have to say it...and I have to say it this way because it becomes clear and makes the shock a little less:

"I don't care how old he looks, the boy still has a dick."

Munchkin03 02-17-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1780555)
Ladies...I have to say it...and I have to say it this way because it becomes clear and makes the shock a little less:

"I don't care how old he looks, the boy still has a dick."

I didn't know it could do anything! :rolleyes: LOOK AT HIM DAEMONSEID.

Kevin 02-17-2009 02:47 PM

Congratulations! It looks like the little tyke is getting off to an early start in combating the U.K.'s atrocious birth rate. Good for him.

Kevlar281 02-17-2009 02:54 PM

Single Mother = Free Housing in Britain

Munchkin03 02-17-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1780575)
Single Mother = Free Housing in Britain

According to the tabs, once she's 16, she can drop out of school and claim not only the baby as a dependent, but HER BOYFRIEND AS WELL. That way, she'll get pushed to the top of the council housing list, AND she gets welfare like she's a single mum with two kids!

Both of the kids grew up on the dole, so I guess this isn't too surprising that their parents know how to work the system...at least it's not my tax dollars!

epchick 02-17-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1780540)
The only thing I find surprising is that a boy who doesn't look like he has even started to go through puberty yet is capable biologically...

I didn't think so either, but I didn't think that about girls either. And then I met a 9 year old girl who was pregnant. Now, not a lot of these young pregnancies surprise me.

DaemonSeid 02-17-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1780567)
I didn't know it could do anything! :rolleyes: LOOK AT HIM DAEMONSEID.

Precisely why I wonder why anyone is surprised.

:D

Don't let the looks fool ya!

KSUViolet06 02-17-2009 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1780567)
I didn't know it could do anything! :rolleyes: LOOK AT HIM DAEMONSEID.

LOL.

Nothing surprises me at all with kids anymore.

I went into my GYN's office for an appt and sat next to a pregnant 13 year old.

It was so ridiculous because here she is like 8 months pregnant and she really is JUST a kid. I mean, she called her mom "Mommy" still.

I remember her trying to fill out the paperwork and such and having her mom fill it out because she "didn't know how." She had to ask, "Mommy, am I allergic to anything??"

I kept thinking, wow, she has no clue what she's gotten herself into.

BigRedBeta 02-18-2009 12:42 AM

other than the fact that the father looks so young...I don't see the big deal about why this made international news.

Seriously, spend some time with the OB/GYN's at any hospital that deals with the underserved and you're going to see a lot of this. I've personally done pre-natal visits for 13 year olds. Several of the pediatric residency programs I'm looking at have special "teen mother" clinics run jointly by OB/GYN's and specialists in Adolescent medicine.

AGDee 02-18-2009 02:50 PM

But girls mature physically before boys, generally, and look like they have matured some. The average age of menarche in the US is 12. Once that's happening, a girl can obviously get pregnant. My son is 12 and most of his friends are just now starting to grow underarm hair, have some voice changes, etc. Some of them look much older than this kid does, some of them look like that kid. The ones who look older (starting to get the peach fuzz moustache, etc), I would expect them to be fertile. I wouldn't necessarily expect the younger looking ones to be fertile yet.

Munchkin03 02-18-2009 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedBeta (Post 1780840)
other than the fact that the father looks so young...I don't see the big deal about why this made international news.

I think that's it, along with the fact that there are several other "young lads" who have come forward saying that the kid is theirs. Add the grandfather in the devil mask and you have a lot of WTF.

The photos make me laugh. It looks sooo posed and dramatic! She looks like a giant compared to him, too.

DaemonSeid 02-18-2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1781012)
But girls mature physically before boys, generally, and look like they have matured some. The average age of menarche in the US is 12. Once that's happening, a girl can obviously get pregnant. My son is 12 and most of his friends are just now starting to grow underarm hair, have some voice changes, etc. Some of them look much older than this kid does, some of them look like that kid. The ones who look older (starting to get the peach fuzz moustache, etc), I would expect them to be fertile. I wouldn't necessarily expect the younger looking ones to be fertile yet.

I didn't know fertility had a look...LOL

"Mmmm gurl...you lookin' mighty fuuuuurrttile today...lemme git in dem jeans."

hehe!!!

LightBulb 02-20-2009 09:20 PM

FLuffeeTalks video of the story

UGAalum94 02-20-2009 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1781027)
I didn't know fertility had a look...LOL

"Mmmm gurl...you lookin' mighty fuuuuurrttile today...lemme git in dem jeans."

hehe!!!

Actually, and I'm taking this beyond what AGDee was saying, it does. If you ever watch the TV shows about the biology of sexual attraction that PBS or whatever have (yep, I'm a nerd), a lot of what is considered typically beautiful over time is associated with fertility: waist hip ratio, symmetry of features, youth generally, but obviously not as much as the topic of this thread.

SWTXBelle 02-20-2009 09:45 PM

It sounds like Octomom should have moved to Britain, and then she wouldn't have to worry about housing. :rolleyes:

UGAalum94 02-20-2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1780673)
LOL.

Nothing surprises me at all with kids anymore.

I went into my GYN's office for an appt and sat next to a pregnant 13 year old.

It was so ridiculous because here she is like 8 months pregnant and she really is JUST a kid. I mean, she called her mom "Mommy" still.

I remember her trying to fill out the paperwork and such and having her mom fill it out because she "didn't know how." She had to ask, "Mommy, am I allergic to anything??"

I kept thinking, wow, she has no clue what she's gotten herself into.

This may be what's different about teen motherhood these days. I think it's always been around, but that in the past there was as assumption that if a person was pregnant that she needed to mature fast enough to take on a maternal role OR plan on giving the baby up to be raised by someone else.

And now, in a lot of the families where a teenage girl gets pregnant, the teenagers stays in her child role but the family also keeps the kid around.

The only reason why I'd judge it as being worse is that it seems often to completely cut fathers out of the loop. In this case in Britain it makes sense if the dad is this young, but not in cases when the parents are a little older.

RU OX Alum 02-20-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1780511)
No, this didn't come from Florida!

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hahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahaha


I know it's horrible to laugh at something like this but hahahahahahahahaha

geryon 02-23-2009 02:58 PM

This case is a national shame. There is a large underclass of people in the UK, poorly educated with little prospects who are the root of many social ills. Teen pregnancies, drunken violence, anti social behaviour, and sadly increasingly knife and even gun crime. (Over 20 shooting/knifing deaths in London last year alone).

I am a liberal guy but feel the UK faces social collapse. Strict state control is required to make use of what are in essence, pretty useless people.

DrPhil 02-23-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geryon (Post 1783200)
Strict state control is required to make use of what are in essence, pretty useless people.

:rolleyes:

Munchkin03 02-23-2009 03:15 PM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2250059.ece

How does one find a hoodie with a middle finger on the back?

"I'm the daddy, if not eff all y'all, I'll still be there." Keep it classy, Alfie!

geryon 02-23-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1783201)
:rolleyes:


How is that not a just statement?

There contribution to the nation is crassness, violence and social disaster.

geryon 02-23-2009 05:29 PM

National service at 18, until 20 should fix them up!

KSUViolet06 02-23-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UGAalum94 (Post 1782394)
That in the past there was as assumption that if a person was pregnant that she needed to mature fast enough to take on a maternal role OR plan on giving the baby up to be raised by someone else.

And now, in a lot of the families where a teenage girl gets pregnant, the teenagers stays in her child role but the family also keeps the kid around.




My mom told me once that if a girl in her HS got pregnant, she "magically disappeared" for 9 months and came back baby-free. This usually meant that she'd had the baby and given it up for adoption.

In some communities, we're seeing that when a girl gets pregant, her parents seem to take on the parental role with the baby, allowing her to continue "living her life" so to speak. Thus sticking the parents with another kid in addition to the ones they already have.

CutiePie2000 02-23-2009 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1783418)
My mom told me once that if a girl in her HS got pregnant, she "magically disappeared" for 9 months and came back baby-free. This usually meant that she'd had the baby and given it up for adoption.

I thought it was called "Going away to visit an aunt"? ;):rolleyes::p

KSUViolet06 02-23-2009 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1783428)
I thought it was called "Going away to visit an aunt"? ;):rolleyes::p

LOL.

I've heard it described as "going on a vacation" too.

CutiePie2000 02-23-2009 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1783430)
LOL.

I've heard it described as "going on a vacation" too.

What did they call it on "Desperate Housewives" when Danielle van de Kamp was pregnant? I think they sent her to a convent for unwed mothers, but said that she was at "Boarding School in Switzerland".

In any case, this story in England sounds very, very sad. These kids and the baby have really no opportunities to reach their full potential.

Munchkin03 03-26-2009 12:35 PM

OMG THE BABY IS NOT HIS!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!1

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21227974/

I'm relieved for him, and kind of not surprised, but he was the best potential father that kid had. It's been alleged that the girl's family decided to frame him as the potential father because he comes from a more affluent background.

Hopefully he will see this as dodging a bullet and be extremely careful from now on!

nikki1920 03-26-2009 12:50 PM

Did Chantelle run off the stage? lol

Wow!! Hopefully his dad had the birds and bees talk with him.

PiKA2001 03-26-2009 01:24 PM

That little girl seems like she might be a hoe.

KSUViolet06 03-26-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1794320)
Did Chantelle run off the stage? lol

Wow!! Hopefully his dad had the birds and bees talk with him.




YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER!!

BetteDavisEyes 03-26-2009 05:19 PM

The link doesn't work. :(

I'm glad for the boy b/c now he can live some sort of normal life and not be a dad at his young age.

rhoyaltempest 03-26-2009 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1794327)
That little girl seems like she might be a hoe.

How about misguided? and not properly parented? These are still children we're talking about. :(


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