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BaltoAlphaPsi 02-12-2009 02:56 PM

Greek- the TV show
 
ABC family is about to walk into the 4th chapter of the TV series "GREEK"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0976014/
"Freshman Rusty arrives at college and decides he no longer wants to be the boring geek from high school. Now he must deal with his sister, sorority girl Casey, who denies his existence, Evan, his sister's boyfriend who denied him a bid to his fraternity because he told Casey about his infidelity, Dale his uptight roommate who thinks Greeks are only about drinking and fornication, and Calvin and his new friend who is in Evan's fraternity and having trouble dealing with his homosexuality." -IMDB plot summary

Do you watch it? Do you feel is a proper picture of Greek life.

The show touches on many subjects that any college student can relate: Relationships, cheating, credit card debt, pressure to lose virginity, drinking, drugs. Except this show is ABOUT Greek life, and it is filmed in 3 primary fictional houses. ZBZ sorority, Omega Chi - the #1 fraternity on campus, sweater vest and trust fund men, and Kappa Tau Gamma - party boys, slackers, the like. You hear about others like the slut sorority (Tri-pi) and the nerdy Fraternity - Phi Chi Psi (or something like that)

Anyway- Because this show revolves around the family of Greek life, it talks about hazing, though no one is what one would severely hazed, (beaten, forced to drink, forced to break laws) hazing is involved, KT pledge Rusty has to serve his brothers drinks in a dress and blond wig. and do his brothers errands all during the pledge process.... which in the show is a school year long.

The show also deals with the issue of a gay pledge, who - though is legacy - he dropps out of pledging because his soon to be brothers felt betrayed and lied to, and he feels it wasn't their business if he was gay (he did not let them know he was homosexual until ZBZ Ashlee let it slip).

Do you feel this show is a risk management issue? Would you be offended if someone though of your Sorority/fraternity in this light? Do you feel this is accurate in the fact that, just like any organizations, issues in leadership arise, and nationals has to step in, (as seen in the ZBZ house where the orig pres wants to hide an issue from nationals and gets removed from her presidency)

How does this show put greek life in a bad light? Or does is create an accurate picture that could almost be helpful in the sense that college is college and people mature and grow and come across a lot of issues whether or not your in a greek house.

Please discuss.

LaneSig 02-12-2009 02:59 PM

The show has been discussed in a couple of different threads. Personally, from the little I've seen, I don't think it necessarily puts Greeks in a bad light. And, considering the upswing in women joining the Greek system, I've wondered if the show hasn't actually helped them decide to join.

AlphaXi_Husky 02-12-2009 03:05 PM

You can find discussions here:

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...ighlight=greek
http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...ighlight=greek

BaltoAlphaPsi 02-12-2009 03:11 PM

yes, but if you look at my original question, I'm talking about this effects how greek life is looked at in terms of risk management, Do people at your school, watch this show, and then look down at you? or do you like the way the show depicts greek life. Also, many cast and crew members were IN greek life in college.

knight_shadow 02-12-2009 03:30 PM

AlphaXi's first link is to a 44 page thread about the show. Your answer is probably in there already.

Kansas City 02-12-2009 03:38 PM

It's fiction and serves only to entertain.

preciousjeni 02-12-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltoAlphaPsi (Post 1778855)
Do you watch it? Do you feel is a proper picture of Greek life.

Seriously? :confused:

BaltoAlphaPsi 02-13-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1778958)
Seriously? :confused:


Hey-- each chapter is different.

Elephant Walk 02-13-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltoAlphaPsi (Post 1778855)
Anyway- Because this show revolves around the family of Greek life, it talks about hazing, though no one is what one would severely hazed, (beaten, forced to drink, forced to break laws) hazing is involved, KT pledge Rusty has to serve his brothers drinks in a dress and blond wig. and do his brothers errands all during the pledge process.... which in the show is a school year long.

Not errands! Anything but that!

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The show also deals with the issue of a gay pledge, who - though is legacy - he dropps out of pledging because his soon to be brothers felt betrayed and lied to, and he feels it wasn't their business if he was gay (he did not let them know he was homosexual until ZBZ Ashlee let it slip).
Erroneous. He dropped and then rejoined Omega Chi like two episodes later. Plus Evan kicked out the douchebag that made fun of Calvin.

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do you feel this show is a risk management issue?
How? Is Evan gonna come out of the box and haze my pledges? Cuz that would be rad.

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Would you be offended if someone though of your Sorority/fraternity in this light?[/B]
Well, it would be an improvement over now.

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Do you feel this is accurate in the fact that, just like any organizations, issues in leadership arise, and nationals has to step in, (as seen in the ZBZ house where the orig pres wants to hide an issue from nationals and gets removed from her presidency)
I don't know, I don't care, I hate nationals.

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How does this show put greek life in a bad light? Or does is create an accurate picture that could almost be helpful in the sense that college is college and people mature and grow and come across a lot of issues whether or not your in a greek house.

Please discuss.
It doesn't portray any of the houses because Kappa Tau hazes Rusty by making a video game. Fucking stupid.

ree-Xi 02-13-2009 05:11 PM

It's as realistic a portrayal as "ER" is to Emergency Rooms, "90210" is to American high schools, and "Desperate Housewives" is to suburban homemakers.

The stories may be rooted in actuality, but they are often dramatized, exaggerated and resolved in 60 minutes or less.

It wouldn't be any fun to watch a bunch of fraternity men and sorority women doing study hours at the library or setting up chairs for a meeting. So the writers focus on packing as much "excitement" and sensationalism as possible into each episode. Do you not understand what ENTERTAINMENT is?

Unregistered- 02-13-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltoAlphaPsi (Post 1778862)
Also, many cast and crew members were IN greek life in college.

Oh yeah? Besides the guy who plays Calvin, who else was Greek?

Cite your source, please.

ZTA72 02-13-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1779356)
It's as realistic a portrayal as "ER" is to Emergency Rooms, "?

You got that right. I was an ER nurse for 2 years, when I was young, in a big metro *county* hospital. While there was some extracurricular activity going on, it was no way as exciting as on TV. I had fun, but it was hard work. We had actual work to do, like taking care of the patients.:)

Unregistered- 02-13-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTA72 (Post 1779384)
You got that right. I was an ER nurse for 2 years, when I was young, in a big metro *county* hospital. While there was some extracurricular activity going on, it was no way as exciting as on TV. I had fun, but it was hard work. We had actual work to do, like taking care of the patients.:)

So did you get to make out with hot doctors? ;)

KSUViolet06 02-13-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1779256)



How? Is Evan gonna come out of the box and haze my pledges? Cuz that would be rad.




OMG. Hilarious.


ZTA72 02-13-2009 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1779385)
So did you get to make out with hot doctors? ;)

Even better, I married one:p.

Unregistered- 02-13-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTA72 (Post 1779395)
Even better, I married one:p.

Well heavens to Carol Hathaway good for you! :D

CougarGrad 02-13-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTA72 (Post 1779395)
Even better, I married one:p.


McDreamy or McSteamy?

ZTA72 02-13-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1779396)
Well heavens to Carol Hathaway good for you! :D

Yep, and we had twin girls! Much later in life though.

I'll have to plead the fifth on McDreamy v. McSteamy. MrZTA72 was a pretty serious surgical resident. I, then, transferred to work in the OR, and the rest is history and happened probably before most of you GCers were born, hahaha.

cootiequeen 03-16-2009 01:16 PM

whaaaat is your deal
 
GREEK is an awesome show, a TV show, entertainment, sensationalism, guilty-pleasure heaven. If people are dumb enough to watch the show and think that every single Greek organization in the country is like ZBZ or Kappa Tau, then they are PLAIN STUPID.

I would actually like to be like ZBZ because then we could have parties and have fun. I like doing all the community service and philanthropy stuff, but I would LOVE to be able to cut loose once in a while without boring over-dedicated sisters complaining about how it tarnishes our image. I joined DPhiE because we didn't get hazed AT ALL and I found 5 girls who like to have fun as well as do well in school. I didn't realize that we could never have fun rush parties and that we are paranoid about Nationals finding out if a sister had a Cosmo at a sisterhood dinner.

Again, if people think we are like the ZBZs I would be HAPPY! :D

KSUViolet06 03-16-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791094)
I didn't realize that we could never have fun rush parties and that we are paranoid about Nationals finding out if a sister had a Cosmo at a sisterhood dinner.

Again, if people think we are like the ZBZs I would be HAPPY! :D

Like, OMG, I like totally agree. We should totally be able to like, have drinks at our events like all the time, and have rush parties just like ZBZ on TV. Like, for realz.

Really?

Unregistered- 03-16-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791094)
GREEK is an awesome show, a TV show, entertainment, sensationalism, guilty-pleasure heaven. If people are dumb enough to watch the show and think that every single Greek organization in the country is like ZBZ or Kappa Tau, then they are PLAIN STUPID.

I would actually like to be like ZBZ because then we could have parties and have fun. I like doing all the community service and philanthropy stuff, but I would LOVE to be able to cut loose once in a while without boring over-dedicated sisters complaining about how it tarnishes our image. I joined DPhiE because we didn't get hazed AT ALL and I found 5 girls who like to have fun as well as do well in school. I didn't realize that we could never have fun rush parties and that we are paranoid about Nationals finding out if a sister had a Cosmo at a sisterhood dinner.

Again, if people think we are like the ZBZs I would be HAPPY! :D

Based on this post and the crap you pulled in the AGD Forum, I feel sorry for Delta Phi Epsilon.

KSUViolet06 03-16-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791094)

I would actually like to be like ZBZ because then we could have parties and have fun.

I love how your sorority isn't "fun" because it doesn't party like a fictitious sorority on TV does.

You need to step out of the TV matrix.

agzg 03-16-2009 03:42 PM

That reads like a 2nd grade writing assignment.

"I like the tv show Greek. When I grow up, I want to be in the sorority on Greek. People think the show is bad but I think it's good. I wish real life was like Greek because then we could have parties and have fun."

tri deezy 03-16-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791094)
I didn't realize that we could never have fun rush parties and that we are paranoid about Nationals finding out if a sister had a Cosmo at a sisterhood dinner.

Again, if people think we are like the ZBZs I would be HAPPY! :D

I don't really think there's anything wrong with this reply. It's honest. I think a lot of collegiate members feel this way, actually. I went to a big state school known as a party school and I think it's very normal to wish we could get down like the frats do from time to time without getting in trouble.

Unregistered- 03-16-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tri deezy (Post 1791240)
I don't really think there's anything wrong with this reply. It's honest. I think a lot of collegiate members feel this way, actually. I went to a big state school known as a party school and I think it's very normal to wish we could get down like the frats do from time to time without getting in trouble.

Well, when she calls your sorority "crapola" and accuses them of hazing with no proof to back it up, it's kinda hard to see her posts objectively.

I won't even go on with her chosen username.

tri deezy 03-16-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1791246)
Well, when she calls your sorority "crapola" and accuses them of hazing with no proof to back it up, it's kinda hard to see her posts objectively.

I won't even go on with her chosen username.


Hahahhaha, good points, good points. Oh my lordy. I should read more carefully.

cootiequeen 03-17-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1791246)
Well, when she calls your sorority "crapola" and accuses them of hazing with no proof to back it up, it's kinda hard to see her posts objectively.

I won't even go on with her chosen username.

Oh come on. This is Greek Chat. I didn't call the alpha gams crapola. I said that any organization that says it doesn't haze but then makes their pledges do things like take tests and carry binders and get signatures is crapola.

You're right, I don't know a lot about alpha gam, but I know that my sister is stressed because of the things she has to do to be initiated.

And okay, I like the show Greek, and I think that once in a while it would be cool if we could do silly things like have a party. But is it really necessary to cut me down and say that I write like a 2nd grader?

I like Greek not because of its portrayal of Greek Life but because it's a fun guilty pleasure. Do I REALLY want to be like ZBZs, with Franny and Evan and Casey and drama? Um, no. But it would be kinda cool to have a reputation as smart, classy, but fun girls.

MysticCat 03-17-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791400)
Oh come on. This is Greek Chat. I didn't call the alpha gams crapola. I said that any organization that says it doesn't haze but then makes their pledges do things like take tests . . . is crapola.

You might want to educate yourself a little bit. I think it's safe to say that a national test prior to initiation is the norm, not the exception, among GLOs. At any rate, it is not uncommon.

It is not hazing; calling it hazing is crapola. Period.

agzg 03-17-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791400)
And okay, I like the show Greek, and I think that once in a while it would be cool if we could do silly things like have a party. But is it really necessary to cut me down and say that I write like a 2nd grader?

Sorry, pumpkin, but I call 'em like I see 'em.

KSUViolet06 03-17-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1791401)
You might want to educate yourself a little bit. I think it's safe to say that a national test prior to initiation is the norm, not the exception, among GLOs. At any rate, it is not uncommon.

It is not hazing; calling it hazing is crapola. Period.

Correct. My sorority has one, as do several other NPCs. It's certainly not uncommon.

Unregistered- 03-17-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791400)
Oh come on. This is Greek Chat. I didn't call the alpha gams crapola. I said that any organization that says it doesn't haze but then makes their pledges do things like take tests and carry binders and get signatures is crapola.

You're right, I don't know a lot about alpha gam, but I know that my sister is stressed because of the things she has to do to be initiated.

And okay, I like the show Greek, and I think that once in a while it would be cool if we could do silly things like have a party. But is it really necessary to cut me down and say that I write like a 2nd grader?

I like Greek not because of its portrayal of Greek Life but because it's a fun guilty pleasure. Do I REALLY want to be like ZBZs, with Franny and Evan and Casey and drama? Um, no. But it would be kinda cool to have a reputation as smart, classy, but fun girls.

As do I.

"cootiequeen" FTL!

Elephant Walk 04-22-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cootiequeen (Post 1791400)
You're right, I don't know a lot about alpha gam, but I know that my sister is stressed because of the things she has to do to be initiated.

Oh noes!

JohnnyCash 04-22-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1802174)
Oh noes!

Call the waaambulance.


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