Something that I need to say.
 

It's been brought to my attention that some of the Moderators, in the moderator forum, have been discussing some of my posts.

I am not SH80.

I am opinionated and forthright. I say what's on my mind and I don't hold back. When someone is mad, it's a tendency to use foul language. I was incredibly offended by someone's post, and I, on impulse, as we all do, lashed out.

I don't know all the details about whatever happened last year...and I don't want to know, but I can assure you that I am NOT any of those people. I do not walk around trying to make trouble. I am a nice person. I respect the greek life, or else I wouldn't have gone through rush or wanted to become one.

Phi Sigma Sigma is a great org, and I would be an excellent addition to their chapter. If they don't bid me, then that's cool, because I still made 30 new friends who I know love me, for who I am. I am responsible, level-headed and enthusiastic, and I want so much to be a part of that orginization.

Another thing, just to clarify...When I asked about transferring schools, I just wasn't sure about if I'd be allowed to Rush a different Soror. I'm new to this greek thing and I'm trying to learn what I can, and I'm kind of upset that a few of the moderators would bring that up in the Forum. It's almost like punishing a five year old for eating candy when he didn't know any better.

I love the girls of Phi Sig, and I honestly love it here, and the people I've met, and people that have been so supportive of me. (AKA-Diana, I love you. :)). ALso, the men's bathroom habit comment...I mean...it was in Chit Chat! It's not like I posted it in the Academic Forum.

I evidently like to have too much fun...Otherwise I can't imagine that after two weeks in GC I"ve already upset half of the Moderators.

So. If you want me to leave, if you really think it would improve the harmony of your little community, just say it, and I will.

But I'll say it again.
I'm NOT SH80. Nor anyone else.

I'm Jessica.
And I've only posted under Dejajeva.


Thanks for your time.

Jessica

Well . . .
 

I don't believe anyone is going to ask you to leave Jessica, so be of good cheer.

As a moderator and someone who appreciates this forum as an open and free expression of differing thoughts and opinions, as well as a nice example of freedom of expression as delineated by our first amendment rights, I am somewhat abashed that you felt that other members of this forum are making you self conscious enough to seek to explain and justify your posts.

Certainly I have never felt compelled to do something similar, nor would I ever, even in the face of others' dissaproval, censorship, or negative judgment of my character.

I will not patronize others by apologizing for their posts, or seeking to explain or rationalize their points of view, either good or bad, whether I agree or disagree.

However, I will say that as far as I am concerned, you have certainly not posted in any way that warrants any degree of justification (unless you so desire) or in a way that deserves censure.

So hopefully this thread will end any further debate or discussion that you believe may be impugning your character, motivations, or identity.


James

I have to agree with James on this one Folks. I can see if her posts are truly outrageous , offensive and plain disgusting like some of the many we have had before on Greek Chat. But really thats a totally different discussion.
We all have had the same discussion of conduct and yada yada, but we have had worse on GC(not saying you are worse Jessica)
We are all entitled to our own opinions and views and they should not be censored , just cause they are blunt and to the point . As for the profanity, ok we are all adults here on GC, we all have heard the words before and I am certain used the words before. So hearing it or seeing it should not shock you. And I have seen most of you drop a swear here or two in a post!
Greekchat is to gather, discuss, meet, chat,learn and what ever other definition comes to mind. Not to censor someone's opinon because they don't feel the same as you, let's be real all!
Jessica, as a moderator I am sorry,for I know not all of the mods will feel the same as I do, when people start being afraid to ask questions and post comments for fear of what a moderator might say. Then thats where we have a problem. So speak on, drop whatever 2cents you have and let be :)
DGPhoney~

Couldn't have said it better myself James...
 

I agree wholeheartedly James. I didn't see anything wrong with any of your previous posts on this board. We are all adults here, we can have discussions, even debates with opposing opinions on issues affecting us - and we should be able to voice those opinions without people jumping to conclusions about who we are and what we stand for - that is what the First Amendment is all about - freedom of speech.

So everyone, be a little more patient, understanding, and friendly - try not to jump all over people just because they are bold and say something you wouldn't.

Personally, I've talked to Jessica, she's a great girl, she would be a great addition to any GLO and I don't see any resemblence to past GC nuisance :D

Well said James

Thank you for saying what has been on my mind and probably many others' minds for a while now.

A good day.
 

Thank you for everybody's support...I really appreciate it. I was a little down yesterday, but today I've had a better day than any I've had in the last two weeks. I was extended my bid to join Phi Sigma Sigma. Our formal "pref" party (which, oddly comes after bidding)...is Sunday.

Thank you to everyone, especially James, Diana, and IowaHawkEye.

:)

Thanks, Guys!!!

(ps-you too exgreek)
:)

Mods. :)
 

Yes, Mod stuff should be kept in the mod forum. However, if you talk about me in the mod forum and I hear about it I will be forced to defend myself.

:)
Let's all get along, okay?

Jess

I know I should just leave this alone...
Since you aren't a moderator, how would you know what, if anything, is discussed in that forum? Do you have a spy? Are you trying to break in?
How are you going to make a blatent theat like "I'll be forced to defend myself" (defend agaist what, btw) & then say let's all get along?
Heidi

Of course...!
 

No, I don't "break" in...I wouldn't know how. And, I don't have a "spy". But I'm friends with several of the moderators- and if you guys are talking bad about me, in that forum, and I hear about it, sure, I'll try to calm those issues. Ie-defend myself against blatant untruths. Such as...my posts were inapropriate, that I'm here to simply cause trouble...that I'm some other girl who I don't even know..

This hurts my feelings and I feel like I should defend myself against such judgements.
I think you would, as would anyone, too.


Always,
JEssica

aiiii chiwawa. Can we all just chill. This is a dead topic. Hate to be snotty but I hardly get the chance to be snotty. So bear (is it bare or bear) with me.
Lets all get over this, it's a done deal. If we all chill our tempers a bit I am sure we all will be back to regular GC standards.
So lets be happy and talk about umm, wait give me a sec, I am aweful at this, Tom E or Heidiho or Newbie or somebody give me a topic pleassse:)
Well now that all this is over, i hope everyone had a great Monday and will have a great Tuesday :)
Always
DGPhoney~

Re: Mods. :)
 

Possible discussion pertaining to Dejajeva, occurring in the moderator's forum, was alluded to by another moderator in a post in one of the other threads in this forum.

Well, Jessica, your posts have often been inappropriate as judged by the volume of e-mail I've gotten from GC non-moderators. Furthermore, you should not be hearing anything from your so-called "moderator friends" about what goes on there and the mods have been reminded that what happens on our forum should stay there.

I'm sure the moderators will continue to discuss anything we darn well choose to on our forum. 'Nuff said.

Carnation.
 

I am trying my hardest to be nice and let it go.

Can't you even try to be nice. Just let it die.

You can't stop anyone from telling anyone else what they want, so there's no point in dragging this out.

Did I miss something? What did she post that was so inappropiate, I read all of them, and nothing brought up a red flag. Just a few disagreements and curse words, but we are all adults. Right?
:confused:

lah..dee..da..
 

Yes, James is correct. That moderator was me. :D *waves hands*

Perhaps moderators' discussion about a problem user would not take place if the user didn't give us something to talk about. ;)

Makes you wonder...

There is an old saying, you gather more flys with honey than you do vinegar. Dejadeva, you seem to be full of vinegar. However, you were just treated in a horrible way by your BF and you went through a very stressful time-rush. Everyones feelings are rather raw these days. IT's UNDERSTANDABLE! The people on these boards are so supportive. Everyone has had a disagreement with another member's opinion, but the boards continue on. The resources here are offered to you with open arms. James and Tom , Barbara, Carnation and so many others I can't begin to name, have experience and insight that they offer freely. Does everyone agree? No, but the conversation remains respectful-most "keep their gloves on". Go back and read what James said. No one wants you to leave. We all have had moments when our emotions got the better of us. This is a community and like any community, there will be differences that cause friction, but the truth is, each and everyone would reach out to you...if you let them.

Why?
 

Otw...I'm sorry. Listen, I just don't understand when every effort I make to get along with you, you make a snide remark to/about me. I'm not a problem, and justamom, I really do appreciate your kindness, it actually makes me miss my mom. She's my best friend, and I work and go to school so much that I hardly see her because She's always at work too. Mom's are amazing people with such positive things to say. I have been stressed lately, and I seem to be scolded for it. 1- This horrible wtc event...2-Starting a brand new school in a brand new city with brand new people I've never met before now...3-I'm madly in love with a man who's too busy for me. THAT's why we broke up. His future is uncertain and he doesn't want me along for the bumpy ride. He wants to protect me. I worry about him...he's in the reserves and also in the police academy. If he get's called out, who knows where or when or if our future might be. 4- my mom's having surgury thursday. 5- I work two jobs plus go to school full time and I have to pay for everything (car, insu, phone) all myself. Yeah, I'm stressed and I break pretty easily. But...yesterday when I was extended my bid was the happiest I've been in two weeks. I was never depressed but it was just all so emotionally draining.
I've apologized a million times for the profanity and I've apologized for whatever I evidently did wrong to upset Carnation and OTW. All I ask for is to stop the premature judgments and bashing not only on these public forums, but in private. I have the feeling you ALL know what it's like to be stressed. Wouldn't you want support rather than always being torn down?
Get to know me, OTW...and Carnation.
You might actually like me.

:)

Those that have gotten to know me have shown their support through these posts.

zetaace..thanks for merging the two posts. :)

All in good fun and cheer,

Jessica

I don't understand what is so bad about what she is saying..maybe I'm on some crazy stuff, but are we not allowed to voice an opinion? Are we to be cautioned and silenced when we say things that not all agree with? Mere questions and concerns from the masa man.
d

Yes, we are all allowed to voice our opinion. I believe that the main issue was that certain comments posted in the past were not opinions, but, instead, insults directed at other GC members. Some insults are okay on this board. However, in this particular instance the poster crossed the line by using quite a bit of extremely foul language that many of us (moderators and non-moderators) found to be offensive. The posts have been edited now, so if someone wasn't around to see the original comments then that person probably wouldn't notice a problem. AND, since the posts HAVE been edited, that particular problem has been solved (in my book, anyway) and I think we should not dwell on it anymore. We've got tons of topics to discuss instead, so let's do that! :D

Also, just to clarify... The moderators on GC are here to make sure that posters follow basic rules of etiquette and to ensure that no threads get completely out of hand. If someone sends me an e-mail about a person they feel is trying to instigate problems among GC members, then it is part of my job to check it out, see if the complaint is a valid one, and, if so, notify the offending poster that he/she needs to use more discretion in his/her posts or risk being banned from Greek Chat altogether.

I think, overall, the moderators do a terrific job. We aren't trying to limit anyone's freedom of speech. We're just trying to keep people from creating flame wars on GC. In the past, some moderators have received hateful, threatening, anonymous e-mails from disgruntled posters which I think is completely uncalled for, especially considering that the mods are just trying to make GC a board that we all can be proud of.

I've visited other greek chat boards where the moderators don't censor anything and many of the posts are from rude, immature, uneducated and completely offensive people. In my opinion, we've got a great thing going here at GC and I want to keep it that way! :)

Damasa, as long as a poster doesn't use obscene language (which dejajeva did and many GCers complained to me about privately) or flame someone in an ugly and undeserved way or obviously try to start a fight, the poster is unlikely to get flamed. We have many disagreements on this board but normally, they're short-lived and fairly civil.

But people need to remember...freedom of speech works two ways. If dejajeva wants to insult OTW by calling her oohteenywhiner, then OTW has the right to return the insult if she so chooses. If dejajeva wants to post a message with offensive language, then people who are offended have the right to respond. Likewise, if she wants to say something that has the potential to start a fight (like her comments about the WTC), she must be well aware that arrows will come her way. (No pun intended.)

A mature GCer will not post a provocative message and then complain about the results it engenders!

Dejajeva:

apologize
kiss
make-up
maybe give a hug

forgiven...forgotten

and the earth will continue to rotate at it's former, steady pace that it was at before someone decided the apocalypse was upon us because you used a curse word, or whatever.

Everyone walks away from the fight fully in tact...no one persists (on either side) to make themselves look bad and GC is a safe haven once again for intelligent Greeks.

Wow, what a preposterous idea?
No, wait....sensible....yeah, it's a sensible, smart idea

Oh happy world!!!

Petty, petty shit


edited to say: after I reread this I decided I must be either Schizophrenic, or the world's biggest smart-ass

dually noted and accepted, although I feel that there have been a few inappropriate posts by some mods in the recent past, I will refrain from using names, but I don't think that a mod should accuse a gc user of breaking into forums and whatnot. I know that the mods here do an excellent job, but sometimes I feel that ppl are trying to get posts censored because they simply do not like something in the post. I think that some mods may be partial to these demands because they may have become good friends with the certian user/users on gc. Ah well, no more to say really.....just bored at work.

d

This is all my fault
 

This whole thing started because of me. There is nothing else to say about it. Me and Deja were flirting on a post, and OTW was reminded of the unfortunate incidents of this past spring. Then it spiraled out of controll. Can we please drop it now?

You know, billy. You're such a great guy. It wasn't your fault. I was only offended by zetagirly's offensive language- so I replied in the same manner.

I've apologized a million times and there is nothing more I can say.

I will be the mature one here, and let it go.

Moderator, please close this thread.

Thanks,

Jess