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migreek 02-03-2009 04:36 PM

Greek schools
 
Your list of top greek public universities?
Your ranking of midwest greek universities?

KSUViolet06 02-03-2009 04:37 PM

We've discussed this before:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=18500
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=78674

Unregistered- 02-03-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1774529)

Thank you!

migreek 02-03-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1774529)

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1774532)
Thank you!


Yeah you did, in 2006. We are currently in the year of 2009, I wouldn't be surprise if students opinions/ rankings change.

-Thanks for the reference to an older thread, though I would like to see if there is any updates.

KSUViolet06 02-03-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774539)
Yeah you did, in 2006. We are currently in the year of 2009, I wouldn't be surprise if students opinions/ rankings change.

-Thanks for the reference to an older thread, though I would like to see if there is any updates.

Ok. I think Princeton Review & US News put out rankings every year. Check those out.

Yes, we know there are rankings, but the opnions of those rankings never really change.

Somebody usually says "Oh cool, my school is on there!"

Then somebody else says "These people have NO CLUE what they're talking about, ________ University Greek system is clearly stronger than ________."

Then somebody points out that the rankings and methodologies used to create them are subjective.

And it goes around and around.


migreek 02-03-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1774543)
Ok. I think Princeton Review & US News put out rankings every year.

I've seen princeton, but not introduced well to US News. I know some students think ranking ( such like those from princeton) are adjusted sometimes. So I wanted more of a users of greekchat.com opinions.

-Though it would be interesting ( at least for me )

migreek 02-03-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1774543)
Ok. I think Princeton Review & US News put out rankings every year. Check those out.

Yes, we know there are rankings, but the opnions of those rankings never really change.

Somebody usually says "Oh cool, my school is on there!"

Then somebody else says "These people have NO CLUE what they're talking about, ________ University Greek system is clearly stronger than ________."

Then somebody points out that the rankings and methodologies used to create them are subjective.

And it goes around and around.

Princeton Review rankings differ a lot now then 2006 ( think that's the correct year), and same with MSN.

Kansas City 02-03-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774527)
Your list of top greek public universities?
Your ranking of midwest greek universities?

In the grand scheme of things, what does it matter? Focus on your grades and select a university based on academics, not solely on Greek life.

epchick 02-03-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774539)
-Thanks for the reference to an older thread, though I would like to see if there is any updates.

Then look it up for yourself.

LaneSig 02-03-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774547)
Princeton Review rankings differ a lot now then 2006 ( think that's the correct year), and same with MSN.

I believe KSUViolet is trying to get you to realize that all the opinions are subjective. Usually, when this subject is brought up, it ends up as a trainwreck and the thread gets locked. Someone who goes to Mizzou is going to say they are #1 and that Illinois and Kansas suck. Someone from K-State will come on, tell the Mizzou person that they are an idiot and that everyone knows K-State is the best and all Mizzou Greeks are losers.

It doesn't matter what Princeton or MSN say.

Benzgirl 02-03-2009 05:19 PM

Dead!

migreek 02-03-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kansas City (Post 1774554)
In the grand scheme of things, what does it matter? Focus on your grades and select a university based on academics, not solely on Greek life.

Asking a question about the ranking of greek schools, and now your choosing a school solely based on the Greek life?
-That's ridiculous

Due to interest/ possibility of joining a fraternity in the future, I would like to know students opinions of schools greek life ( from there I will use my own personal information such as preference in academics etc.... to determine the school overall, I just asked for a simple opinion list).

migreek 02-03-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1774556)
Then look it up for yourself.

Probably will only be pointless to reply to such a comment.

I've looked up this information, I was just looking for greekchat.com users opinions. If you don't want to leave a opinion, I'm okay with that.

In short words, if your just going to critize/ attack this thread ( speaking to all greekchat.com users) then your comment isn't welcome here.

Benzgirl 02-03-2009 06:04 PM

Opinions will be based soley on who you ask. If you ask people on this board, everything will be biased to one side. Ask people who are not in the Greek system from the same schools and you will receive an entired different viewpoint.

I agree with Kansas City. First base your choice on academics and location. Then find out about their Greek System, Social Life and Football Team.

Unregistered- 02-03-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774599)
In short words, if your just going to critize/ attack this thread ( speaking to all greekchat.com users) then your comment isn't welcome here.

Funny how the majority of GreekChat seems to think otherwise.

FAIL.

migreek 02-03-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1774557)
I believe KSUViolet is trying to get you to realize that all the opinions are subjective. Usually, when this subject is brought up, it ends up as a trainwreck and the thread gets locked. Someone who goes to Mizzou is going to say they are #1 and that Illinois and Kansas suck. Someone from K-State will come on, tell the Mizzou person that they are an idiot and that everyone knows K-State is the best and all Mizzou Greeks are losers.

It doesn't matter what Princeton or MSN say.

I'm just looking for open opinions, whether they are based on their own location of education or not. I'm not going to take what posters say as 100% true, though I would put thought into it and make my own educated guess.

Academics, etc... is important for me in choosing universities though I may have a interest in the greek system, and may lead to have somewhat importance/ preference as well.

Kansas City 02-03-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774597)
Asking a question about the ranking of greek schools, and now your choosing a school solely based on the Greek life?
-That's ridiculous

Due to interest/ possibility of joining a fraternity in the future, I would like to know students opinions of schools greek life ( from there I will use my own personal information such as preference in academics etc.... to determine the school overall, I just asked for a simple opinion list).

I'd just recommend that you as a HS student focus on that which you can control (grades) to get into college. Then pick an appropriate university/college based on what you want to do professionally for the rest of your life. Greek life, although a great part of the college experience (in my opinion), should not be your primary reason for selecting a school of higher learning. Afterall, there is no guarantee that you will receive a bid to join a Greek organization so why would you select a school based solely on Greek life?

migreek 02-03-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1774600)
Opinions will be based soley on who you ask. If you ask people on this board, everything will be biased to one side. Ask people who are not in the Greek system from the same schools and you will receive an entired different viewpoint.

I agree with Kansas City. First base your choice on academics and location. Then find out about their Greek System, Social Life and Football Team.

Yeah I know there are many biased opinions, but I also will make my own educated guess.

School academics, location etc... is important, though with interest in the greek system ( if I plan to join a fraternity) that will be somewhat important and could have influences.

Ofcourse I wouldn't look at schools outside of my personal preference range ( such as a tier 3 school ) because of the greek system.

migreek 02-03-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kansas City (Post 1774605)
I'd just recommend that you as a HS student focus on that which you can control (grades) to get into college. Then pick an appropriate university/college based on what you want to do professionally for the rest of your life. Greek life, although a great part of the college experience (in my opinion), should not be your primary reason for selecting a school of higher learning. Afterall, there is no guarantee that you will receive a bid to join a Greek organization so why would you select a school based solely on Greek life?

Exactly, there isn't a guarantee that I will get bid to join a fraternity, nor a guarantee that when I go to college I will try to join one. At the moment it's part of my interest. Yeah my future as a doctor is consider in choosing universities, though with interest in the greek life..... it may have influences as well.
Some things is a matter of personal preference, and no I'm not trying to select a school based on greek life , academics is more important.

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774610)
my future as a doctor

http://www.pledgepark.com/images/smilies/lol.gif

migreek 02-03-2009 06:17 PM

Don't see why greekchat.com users are bashing me about this thread, when clearly this is a greek forum website.

It would be less surprising if I got these comments on collegeconfidential.com.

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774615)
Don't see why greekchat.com users are bashing me about this thread, when clearly this is a greek forum website.

It would be less surprising if I got these comments on collegeconfidential.com.

Because you ask questions, but decide not to listen to the answers.

migreek 02-03-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774616)
Because you ask questions, but decide not to listen to the answers.

Those were not answers given, and if so they were unacceptable.

________________________
Some post went to the extreme as if they knew my personal life, to make statements as if I never looked up this information or on the rage to choosing universities solely based on the greek system, with all forgots to my professional future.

nittanyalum 02-03-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774527)
Your list of top greek public universities?
Your ranking of midwest greek universities?

GO PENN STATE! Woooo! Best in the country! Woooo! Forget the midwest, those schools suck! And their greek systems are lame! Go Penn State! Wooooo!!

There, is that better?

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774618)
Those were not answers given, and if so they were unacceptable.

Says you.

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1774619)
GO PENN STATE! Woooo! Best in the country! Woooo! Forget the midwest, those schools suck! And their greek systems are lame! Go Penn State! Wooooo!!

There, is that better?

Ewww. I think you meant to type "Go Michigan" ;)

Kansas City 02-03-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774610)
Exactly, there isn't a guarantee that I will get bid to join a fraternity, nor a guarantee that when I go to college I will try to join one. At the moment it's part of my interest. Yeah my future as a doctor is consider in choosing universities, though with interest in the greek life..... it may have influences as well.
Some things is a matter of personal preference, and no I'm not trying to select a school based on greek life , academics is more important.

Good luck. From a mid-western perspective, I don't know of any poor Greek systems, they are all just unique to their environment. There are good and bad chapters at any university small or large and like many things in life, you will get out of your Greek experience what you put into it. So long as you select a university for the right reasons and get accepted, then you can consider and extra-curricular activities (including Greek life). I guess that my problem is with how you asked your original questions. Getting opinions from complete strangers is no way to create an opinion of your future school. Instead, you should visit the schools and talk with students you know that are already attending that school. Strangers on GC aren't going to tell you which schools or chapters are good/bad. If you want opinions to take into consideration, do it personally with students that already attend those institutions you are considering.

migreek 02-03-2009 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1774619)
GO PENN STATE! Woooo! Best in the country! Woooo! Forget the midwest, those schools suck! And their greek systems are lame! Go Penn State! Wooooo!!

There, is that better?

Don't need a random post on how good of a school Pennslyvania State University is, for it was always on one of my list.
________________________________________

Not the type of post I was looking for, but doesn't matter to me.

migreek 02-03-2009 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kansas City (Post 1774622)
Good luck. From a mid-western perspective, I don't know of any poor Greek systems, they are all just unique to their environment. There are good and bad chapters at any university small or large and like many things in life, you will get out of your Greek experience what you put into it. So long as you select a university for the right reasons and get accepted, then you can consider and extra-curricular activities (including Greek life). I guess that my problem is with how you asked your original questions. Getting opinions from complete strangers is no way to create an opinion of your future school. Instead, you should visit the schools and talk with students you know that are already attending that school. Strangers on GC aren't going to tell you which schools or chapters are good/bad. If you want opinions to take into consideration, do it personally with students that already attend those institutions you are considering.

Yeah I see what you mean, and I wouldn't recommand anyone to take all truth to what people say on greekchat.com either. I asked random users to give a random list, and probably would have compared it to professional ranking, and other students opinions on campus etc... Here the schools that fall into my preference in academics etc.... and to be more well known to their greek system, may higher my interest in schools on my list... and if academics preference meeted... added other universities.

Zillini 02-03-2009 07:31 PM

I guess I'm not sure what purpose it would provide for anyone to give a so-called "Top 10 List of Greek Universities".

First off, best at what? Brother/sisterhoods? Academics? Party life? Philanthropy/Community service? Active in SGA, honoraries, clubs, etc? Alumni involvement?

Second, I'm willing to bet there are few folks in the country, aside from I/nat'l officers, who have spent enough time on enough campuses to make accurate assessments of all the Greek systems.

Third, does any of this really matter in the whole scheme of things? I've known plenty of sisters who went to school on campuses that the Greek Life could be termed as lousy for a variety of reasons where an anti-Greek attitude permeated the student body, faculty, administration and even the surrounding community. Yet they loved their chapter, loved their sisters, loved being a member this Inat'l org, and were proud to wear their letters.

ComradesTrue 02-03-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1774619)
GO PENN STATE! Woooo! Best in the country! Woooo! Forget the midwest, those schools suck! And their greek systems are lame! Go Penn State! Wooooo!!

There, is that better?

Oh you couldn't be more wrong! How can Penn State be the best when it isn't even in the South? Texas schools are *so* fratty-rific. Yay UT! Wooooo SMU! Go TCU! Boo for everyone else.:rolleyes:

Is this what you were looking for?

(*waving to Nittany* Glad to see you back on here...)

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-03-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774618)
Those were not answers given, and if so they were unacceptable.

That kind of makes it sound like you aren't open to hearing the answers in the first place.

nittanyalum 02-03-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774621)
Ewww. I think you meant to type "Go Michigan" ;)

LOL. Ew, right back atchya. No I didn't. :p
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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1774623)
Don't need a random post on how good of a school Pennslyvania State University is, for it was always on one of my list.

Great! Then then we're done. Search is over. Glad I could help.
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Originally Posted by Blondie93 (Post 1774658)
Oh you couldn't be more wrong! How can Penn State be the best when it isn't even in the South? Texas schools are *so* fratty-rific. Yay UT! Wooooo SMU! Go TCU! Boo for everyone else.:rolleyes:

Is this what you were looking for?

(*waving to Nittany* Glad to see you back on here...)

Oh, BOO back to Texas and all your fritter-fratters. Penn State's where it's at! One of the biggest greek systems! One of the biggest football stadiums! Our fraternities rock! Woo! (really hope we're helping the lad -- who should, really, just be focusing on his Algebra II homework and scoping out potentials for the jr. prom)

*waving back at Blondie - hey there! how's the bambinos! glad to be done traveling for the moment, but gearing back up, I'll post whenever I can 'til I'm off the grid again!*

lucgreek 02-03-2009 09:16 PM

Loyola has the best greek system in the midwest :rolleyes:

Case closed

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu (Post 1774687)
That kind of makes it sound like you aren't open to hearing the answers in the first place.

He's not, as he made clear in his other thread.

HotDamnImAPhiMu 02-03-2009 09:51 PM

OMG. I hadn't seen that. That is a shitstorm.

AOEforme 02-03-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774621)
Ewww. I think you meant to type "Go WISCONSIN" ;)

FYP. :D

Seriously, if you are even considering a career in the medical field, you'd best put academics 100% first.

Also, you seem to be fairly confident that your desired future is 100% for sure. Both becoming Greek and a doctor are (without a doubt) NOT FOR SURE. You may not recieve an invitation to join any chapter, especially your top choice.

And medical school admissions processes speak for themselves.....

knight_shadow 02-03-2009 11:04 PM

^^^ Wisconsin? That made me throw up in my mouth a little bit...





I kid, I kid :D

migreek 02-03-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1774651)
I guess I'm not sure what purpose it would provide for anyone to give a so-called "Top 10 List of Greek Universities".

First off, best at what? Brother/sisterhoods? Academics? Party life? Philanthropy/Community service? Active in SGA, honoraries, clubs, etc? Alumni involvement?

Second, I'm willing to bet there are few folks in the country, aside from I/nat'l officers, who have spent enough time on enough campuses to make accurate assessments of all the Greek systems.

Third, does any of this really matter in the whole scheme of things? I've known plenty of sisters who went to school on campuses that the Greek Life could be termed as lousy for a variety of reasons where an anti-Greek attitude permeated the student body, faculty, administration and even the surrounding community. Yet they loved their chapter, loved their sisters, loved being a member this Inat'l org, and were proud to wear their letters.

What aren't you understanding. As coming to greekchat.com I'm asking questions about fraternities etc... When speaking of academics, school scence in general etc... I go to collegeconfidential.com.

They are two completely different sites, where I seek two different completely information.

Does any of this really matter you ask...? It varies from person, though that was not part of my question.

migreek 02-03-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu (Post 1774687)
That kind of makes it sound like you aren't open to hearing the answers in the first place.

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1774715)
He's not, as he made clear in his other thread.

I'm open to hearing answers, but those that I've got earlier, and many I have recieved are not acceptable ones. I'm a open minded person, so open minded that I'm willing to observe greekchat.com users opinions of universities with top greek systems.


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