Rapper Jay Z says "No more white lies, my president is black!"
 

It was said on stage at a major Obama inauguration post-party in the DC area. Just saw it on O'Reilly, no articles anywhere yet.

Sucks, I liked him until I saw this. A sad flare up of blatant prejudice.

Ummm he is black...what is the problem? And you saw it on O reilly?

Yeah....speaks volumes...

Why would you look for an article? It's not that newsworthy.

Eh.....

Is this a random thought or a topic worthy of a discussion?

It bothers me that he said it on many levels, but especially the WAY that he said it. I was wondering if this bothered anybody else. Seeing it on O Reilly is irrelevant, I was upset by the video and that segment hasn't even come on yet.

you need to explain why this bothers you.

Actually...on second thought, don't.


and u aren't looking enough if you can't 'find' anything on it...I did with one click.

It was dumb.

What now?

phigam

before u speak, let me throw you a clue.

If what you are saying that Jay Z did and what hip hop artists including Young Jeezy, Nas and a few others this past year are any indication, the hip hop culture may be about to experience a cultural re awakening and reclaiming it's voice of the people...especially in the places where it was born.

Obama can relate to the people and for many has energized the young to aspire for more because of his example.

Since you have been a bit 'slow' to find anything, let me leave you with something to chew on:


President Barack Obama will have his hands full dealing with the economic downturn, the Gaza Strip conflict, terrorist threats in Afghanistan and any number of relentlessly pressing matters.


But maybe he could spare a little time to help out hip-hop, too?

After all, Obama is not just the first African-American president. He is the first hip-hop president - the first one with Jay-Z and Kanye West on his iPod, the first one who speaks the culture’s language, the first one who embraces its mannerisms, from fist-bumping with his wife to throwing his hands in the air and waving like he just don’t care to Beyonce’s "Crazy in Love."

Though he admits he’s older than hip-hop culture, he clearly understands it. "What I’ve appreciated seeing in this hip-hop generation is how entrepreneurial they’ve been," Obama has said. "What I’m starting to see is (for rappers) to stretch out more to think about social responsibility and how they could impact the culture in a positive way and I hope that continues."

Will that hope be enough to persuade many rappers and their fans to look at the genre in a different way? Is that the change hip-hoppers can believe in?

Because the genre certainly needs some change. While sales of rock music dropped only 6.5 percent last year, hip-hop sales dropped nearly 20 percent, according to The Nielsen Company - part of an alarming trend for hip-hop.

In 2003, hip-hop was the third-most-popular type of music. By 2008, it had dropped to sixth, behind country and metal, only slightly ahead of gospel music. Over the past five years, hip-hop sales have fallen 57 percent, according to Nielsen.


http://www.thenorthwestern.com/artic...H0502/90120167

One on level it bothers me because I personally would never associate an entire race of people with something negative. I think we can all agree that doing so is racist.
On another level it bothers me because I never like when celebrities use their status to get involved with politics. Especially when they say things that are (as Dr. Phil already said) dumb.

You certainly have some nerve.

That article didn't really speak to the racist remarks- it simply is predicting the rebirth of hip hop. I hope that he does spark a re-birth of hip hop but I hope that the results of this rebirth won't contain these kind of lyrics. If Jay-Z were to write a song about his happiness on election day (or something along those lines" then that would be a different story.
Admittedly, the more I think about it the more I realize that I was probably wrong to be angry about Jay Z speaking out as it was clearly at a political event.
That being said, I still find the content of the speech to be racist and offensive.

The last time I heard of a politician being "hip-hop" was Kwame Kilpatrick. And we all know how that ended.

I'll respect hip-hop when they stop singing about their lollipops and smacking a bitches ass. There was once a time when I actually was really into rap, but with this crap out there now I just can't respect it. And as much as I hate Kanye West, I do like his new stuff... but I can't and will never respect him.

As for Jay Z's comment, it should NOT matter what color the president is, or if it were Hilary's case, what gender. I think that's where the anger comes from.

And he's really not the first African American President. Last time I checked his mom was white.

Celebs have done it for years...where have you been?

And what was negative about what he said?

No more negative that all the slurs that the extreme right hype machine has pushed all last year to scare people into not voting for him.

Hmmm...

He's Muslim
He's Anti America
He a "Magic Negro"
He looks like Curious George....

and some of this bullshit has been perped by celebs who used their status to push their message.

You see where this is going?

Obviously you haven't listened to enough hip hop, rap and R and B, shit for that matter MUSIC, to know that many times artists have used the platform to talk about the government, if you are making statements like that.


Try some John Lennon or Marvin Gaye.

If you want something a little more current, try Public Enemy.

More current than that try Nas.
Maybe because it wasn't racist?

So what is he then?

What makes the remark "racist?" Because some whites think it's dumb or mean?

Usually when one parents is one race, and the other parent is another race, it's called Bi-racial. Would you like me to look that up for you?

Ask yourself- What makes any remark racist? Is it racist when certain people think its dumb or mean?

No go look this up.

"one drop" rule.

Uh...interesting.

Uh...interesting.


It matters but it doesn't end there. His comment was dumb for other reasons.

:rolleyes: Whatever makes white people more comfortable with the idea. "I voted for the white side."

WHAT?

yeah...I thought so...

One....DROP...Ruuuuullleee...


make urself useful

I don't care what color the president is, I'm just glad a democrat is in there and I really really hope he helps us. I have faith in him.

And I typed that before you editted. Once again you read what you want.

"Never thought Id say this ish
Baby Im good
You can keep your Kush? (rhymes with Bush, idk what-poor quality)
I don't want no more Bush
No more war
No more Iraq
No more white lies
the president is Black"

If you listen to the whole verse not just that one line then I think the context can help explain it. In my opinion the white lies line refers to Bush and the war in Iraq not all white people.

Will.I.Am and Oprah were not on your Christmas card list huh? lol. Its okay. I understand.

Since race is a social construction, being biracial has never mattered before as much as it matters (to white people) now.

Biracial blacks were lynched, hosed down, attacked by dogs, called slurs, had to sit in the back of the bus, drank from "colored only" water fountains, been denied jobs, told they couldn't wed whites......

And today, biracial blacks are part of the structure of racism. Obama isn't "less black" because he's biracial just as his family isn't any less of a "black family."

Oh you care because you're giving the "biracial qualifier."

damn.

Just....

Damn....LOL

you know some people hear what they want to hear...

Seeing the whole thing, it looks more like "white lies" means like "little white lies", however could be a double entundra (so spelled that wrong, but you get it).

No I don't care. I threw the biracial comment in there to be an asshole.

Hooked on Phonix huh?

Get some Hooked on Spelling...

entundra....

wow

entendre

You got free time on ur hands...work it out.

We don't abide by that.

Race is about what people identify as and how others identify them. Obama is pretty secure with being a black man who is biracial because he has a white mother.

Confused people of all races and ethnicities need to get over that. Or spend their time consulting Tiger Woods on their opinion of what he should identify as.

What's up Pot?

Congrats. Now shut up.

The rest of the verse is fine but that one line is mean, divisive and offensive. Imagine the societal backlash that would occur if Alan Jackson sang about "black lies" when referring to Obama.
PM Mama: There is NO WAY that he was referring to "white lies" as in small lies that are OK if something good comes out of it in the end.

It's a play on words, which is what rappers are good at.

I never thought it was supposed to apply to "all" white people.

I completely agree.

Dude, I thought we were getting along? :(

So apparently it was a remix of "My President is Black." Lyrics Couldn't find the "white lies" line.

I did find this one however...

"Yeah, our history, black history, no president ever did shit for me"

Explain how this is a play on words- that is ridiculous. He also shouted it louder than the rest of his lines.

Until you type something dumb.

Except Lincoln and LBJ.
Anyway, that line that you posted was great, its actually pretty intriguing and clever.

Wait... are you saying the rappers speak in the literal?

Hmmmm........I guess they call it word play for nothing.