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DaemonSeid 01-13-2009 07:03 AM

Obama and Spiderman...
 
Tomorrow at a comic stand near you:

It's a Brand New Day for the United States of America and Spider-Man's along for the ride!

To celebrate the upcoming inauguration of Barack Obama, Marvel is proud to present an all-new story teaming up one of the world's most recognizable political figures with the world's greatest super hero as President-Elect Obama joins Spider-Man in "Spidey Meets the President!"

Written by Zeb Wells with art by Todd Nauck and Frank D'Armata, the story takes place in Washington, D.C. on Inauguration Day and finds one
Preview art by
Todd Nauck

of Spider-Man's oldest foes attempting to thwart the swearing in ceremony of the 44th President of the United States.

Fans can read it in its entirety in Marvel Comics' AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #583, available in comic book shops nationwide on January 14th, 2009. Look for the special variant cover by artist Phil Jimenez featuring the President-Elect and Spider-Man!

"When we heard that President-Elect Obama is a collector of Spider-Man comics, we knew that these two historic figures had to meet in our comics' Marvel Universe," says Marvel's Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada. "Historic moments such as this one can be reflected in our comics because the Marvel Universe is set in the real world. A Spider-Man fan moving into the Oval Office is an event that must be commemorated in the pages of Amazing Spider-Man."




http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/20...0499634640.jpg


http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstor..._the_President!

cheerfulgreek 01-13-2009 07:24 AM

I won't look for it, but if I see it, I'll purchase about 10 of them and sell them on ebay. $$$$$$$ :)

moe.ron 01-13-2009 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1764828)
I won't look for it, but if I see it, I'll purchase about 10 of them and sell them on ebay. $$$$$$$ :)

I would hold on to 2 copies, sell 'em 10 or 20 years later. good investment for the future.

DaemonSeid 01-13-2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1764830)
I would hold on to 2 copies, sell 'em 10 or 20 years later. good investment for the future.

I will make a deal with you 2....I have a shop that I am going to tomorrow...if you want a copy, and if I can wing it to get extras, I will gladly sell it to you at cover value and mail it out to you.

moe.ron 01-13-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1764841)
I will make a deal with you 2....I have a shop that I am going to tomorrow...if you want a copy, and if I can wing it to get extras, I will gladly sell it to you at cover value and mail it out to you.

Dang, all the way to Indonesia?

DaemonSeid 01-13-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1764859)
Dang, all the way to Indonesia?

you know what...depending on how much it costs to ship.... YES.

DaemonSeid 01-14-2009 01:02 PM

Got some bad news for you moe....the 1st edition covers are gone. The only way you can get one and JUST one was to have a subscription....I went over to the shop in Georgetown and here is pretty much what happened.


So I go and luckily I was 3rd in line

When the doors open at 11am it was close to 30 people in line.

NO OBAMA COVERS, just the REGULAR covers.

ONE per customer BUT the Obama story is contained in the book.

They won't get the Obama cover in until sometime next week and because I live in DC with the inauguration and all, we may get delayed til Friday.

Not to mention when those come in it will be a 2nd printing (if you still want that because that one may also be in short supply I will be more than happy to get one for you) and may not be worth as much as the 1st edition that was released today.

cheerfulgreek 01-14-2009 05:48 PM

It really doesn't matter which edition I get, I just want a few copies of any kind. Either one will be a great investment.

RU OX Alum 01-14-2009 06:21 PM

so, is this a bigger deal than when superman died
B. As big a deal as when super died.
C. Not as big a deal as when super-man died

your opinions?

cheerfulgreek 01-14-2009 06:22 PM

I hate superman. He's SO unrealistic.

DaemonSeid 01-14-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1765551)
so, is this a bigger deal than when superman died
B. As big a deal as when super died.
C. Not as big a deal as when super-man died

your opinions?

well..coming from a comic collector, it really depends on how you want to look at it.

For one, Supes' death was a gimmick to boost sales for a comic whose sales were lagging in the 90's as well as batman getting his back broken. You just knew that some how DC wouldn't let Superman, their flagship chracter stay dead but just the idea of his death looking so final was enough to get people out to buy the books.

I, myself have 2 copies of the books and they hold pretty well in value.

As for this book, these may be more valuable in the long run as

a) the story has nothing to do with impacting the Marvel Universe
b) These are in very short print whereas the Superman comic was not.
c) Obama's presidency may or may not also increase the value on the book

The big deal is there has never been a comic by a major comic company in recent history dedicated to a president, but at the same time we are talking about Barack Obama also.

So for what it's worth it's a big deal


Here are the ebay numbers as of right now:

http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=spi...bama&_osacat=0


Completed sellings:

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/items...wItems&guest=1


Other notable comics in recent years that collectors seek to have

Uncanny X men 500 - Michael Tirner Varient cover and a few sketches are valued from 30 bucks to 150

Amazing Spider-Man 36 - 9/11 tribute issue black cover

Captain America #25 - Death of Capt America

moe.ron 01-14-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1765386)
Got some bad news for you moe....the 1st edition covers are gone. The only way you can get one and JUST one was to have a subscription....I went over to the shop in Georgetown and here is pretty much what happened.


So I go and luckily I was 3rd in line

When the doors open at 11am it was close to 30 people in line.

NO OBAMA COVERS, just the REGULAR covers.

ONE per customer BUT the Obama story is contained in the book.

They won't get the Obama cover in until sometime next week and because I live in DC with the inauguration and all, we may get delayed til Friday.

Not to mention when those come in it will be a 2nd printing (if you still want that because that one may also be in short supply I will be more than happy to get one for you) and may not be worth as much as the 1st edition that was released today.

No worry, I already bought it from one my brothers. Paid good money for it too.

DrPhil 01-14-2009 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1765573)
well..coming from a comic collector, it really depends on how you want to look at it.

The big deal is there has never been a comic by a major comic company in recent history dedicated to a president, but at the same time we are talking about Barack Obama also.

As a former comic book collector, I agree that this is the main reason this is a "big deal." And the fact that it is in limited print increases demand.

In the comic world overall, it isn't that big of a deal.

moe.ron 01-14-2009 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1765674)
As a former comic book collector, I agree that this is the main reason this is a "big deal." And the fact that it is in limited print increases demand.

In the comic world overall, it isn't that big of a deal.

Agree 100%, the limited print will cause the bidding war to start.

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1765674)
As a former comic book collector, I agree that this is the main reason this is a "big deal." And the fact that it is in limited print increases demand.

In the comic world overall, it isn't that big of a deal.

Those in sales may disagree with you.

Apparently talking to the guys in my shop, there was a DC Comic that's been delayed that finally got back on track and since it was coming out today it was to be the big seller BUT since the Obama comic came out, it trumped that book.

I am curious to see how the sales reports will look at the end of the month for this book and Marvel.

DrPhil 01-15-2009 12:12 AM

How would any of that lead a salesperson to disagree with what I said?

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1765812)
How would any of that lead a salesperson to disagree with what I said?

You said in the comic world it isn't that big of a deal...most who sell ARE into comics so it would be a BIG deal to them

And despite the 'comic toursists" passing thru today...like SPidey or hate him, there were a lot of disappointed comic readers who didn't get their hands on it...as a matter of fact, the reason WHY they were in short supply was that anyone worth his salt with a susbscription had pre ordered the books and the pre orders had to be filled first before the rest of those books could be sold.

DrPhil 01-15-2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1765816)
You said in the comic world it isn;t that big of a deal...most who sell ARE into comics so it would be a BIG deal to them

Because..."there has never been a comic by a major comic company in recent history dedicated to a president, but at the same time we are talking about Barack Obama also" and "the fact that it is in limited print increases demand."

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 12:23 AM

Speaking of the Death of Superman:

Comic book dealers say they haven’t seen this much excitement since Superman was killed in 1992.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/stori...f22e5.html?npc

DrPhil 01-15-2009 12:28 AM

This made me chuckle.

The plot involves a pesky imposter at Obama’s historic inauguration.
In the Spiderman/Obama story, after Spidey saves the day, the real Obama gives him a fist bump.

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 12:29 AM

That's nice.

RU OX Alum 01-15-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1765820)
Speaking of the Death of Superman:

Comic book dealers say they haven’t seen this much excitement since Superman was killed in 1992.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/stori...f22e5.html?npc

called it

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1765907)
called it

Yup very good one too...I would have thought the Death of Capt. America or the WTC Spiderman would have been considered as comparable big sellers.

On the other hand...so many people who wanted this book were 'comic tourists' as well as traditional collectors.

Now what will be really cool is to be able to get that comic autographed by the artists and / or writer of that comic like some did yesterday.

Thankfully tho, this comic won't break the comic industry the same way that Superman may have done in the 90's.

RU OX Alum 01-15-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1765911)
Yup very good one too...I would have thought the Death of Capt. America or the WTC Spiderman would have been considered as comparable big sellers.

On the other hand...so many people who wanted this book were 'comic tourists' as well as traditional collectors.

Now what will be really cool is to be able to get that comic autographed by the artists and / or writer of that comic like some did yesterday.

Thankfully tho, this comic won't break the comic industry the same way that Superman may have done in the 90's.


Yeah but it wasn't just Superman dieing that killed comic books. Him coming back as four different people, even the mullet-corpse, was just too much.

Also, Marvel screwed up too by having spider-man be just a clone of the real peter parker, who was still in a lab, and then broke out.

And the X-Men got all inbred with each other.

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1765914)
Yeah but it wasn't just Superman dieing that killed comic books. Him coming back as four different people, even the mullet-corpse, was just too much.

Also, Marvel screwed up too by having spider-man be just a clone of the real peter parker, who was still in a lab, and then broke out.

And the X-Men got all inbred with each other.

Euuhh...yeah...thanks for reminding me,

Oh trust me, I agree that Superman wasn't the only thing that nearly killed comics in the 90s.

It was a rather big nail not to mention that there were so many other factors and so many gimmicks that the companies tried also.

I think and I know I am not 100% right, one thing that is partially saving the industry now is the plethora of comic movies that have been released in the past few years especially since now producers have finally been able to use CGI to really tell their stories...

BTW...stay away from The Spirit.

DrPhil 01-15-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1765914)
Yeah but it wasn't just Superman dieing that killed comic books. Him coming back as four different people, even the mullet-corpse, was just too much.

Also, Marvel screwed up too by having spider-man be just a clone of the real peter parker, who was still in a lab, and then broke out.

And the X-Men got all inbred with each other.

I have tried to block these from my memory. Darn you.

DrPhil 01-15-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1765917)
It was a rather big nail not to mention that there were so many other factors and so many gimmicks that the companies tried also.

New gimmick: Obama :)

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1765941)
New gimmick: Obama :)

I understand but I disagree.

Hopefully comic companies remeber the perils of oversaturation.

Senusret I 01-15-2009 04:28 PM

I really wanted the "Last Son of Krypton" to be the real Superman. :(

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1766088)
I really wanted the "Last Son of Krypton" to be the real Superman. :(

OK call me slow because I haven't really read SUperman in years....explain.

Senusret I 01-15-2009 04:49 PM

Each of the Supermen were designed with ideas taken from some of the monikers that Superman is often associated with. The four new heroes were:
  • The Man of Steel: John Henry Irons was an ironworker and ex-weapons designer for the military who wears a suit of armor and wields a hammer. He did not claim to actually be Superman, but rather to represent the spirit of Superman and continue his legacy. Steel appeared in Superman: The Man of Steel starting with #22. He later changed his name to just "Steel".
  • The Man of Tomorrow, also called the Cyborg Superman, arrived with augmented Kryptonian technology. He was scientifically proven to be Superman, but claims amnesia in explanation to his part-mechanical nature. The Cyborg Superman appeared in Superman (vol. 2) starting with #78. He later became a major supervillain.
  • The Metropolis Kid, who hated being called Superboy, is a reckless teenage clone of Superman. This Superman appeared in the Adventures of Superman starting with #501. He is the result of the brief time Cadmus attempted to clone Superman. He later had a career as Superboy.
  • The Last Son of Krypton was a visored, energy-powered alien who dealt with criminals lethally. The Last Son of Krypton appeared in Action Comics starting with #687. He claims to have the memories of the original Superman, but his emotional distance makes Lois uncertain. He later was discovered to be the Eradicator, a reformed Superman enemy.[3]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8comics%29.jpg

DaemonSeid 01-15-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1766105)
Each of the Supermen were designed with ideas taken from some of the monikers that Superman is often associated with. The four new heroes were:
  • The Man of Steel: John Henry Irons was an ironworker and ex-weapons designer for the military who wears a suit of armor and wields a hammer. He did not claim to actually be Superman, but rather to represent the spirit of Superman and continue his legacy. Steel appeared in Superman: The Man of Steel starting with #22. He later changed his name to just "Steel".
  • The Man of Tomorrow, also called the Cyborg Superman, arrived with augmented Kryptonian technology. He was scientifically proven to be Superman, but claims amnesia in explanation to his part-mechanical nature. The Cyborg Superman appeared in Superman (vol. 2) starting with #78. He later became a major supervillain.
  • The Metropolis Kid, who hated being called Superboy, is a reckless teenage clone of Superman. This Superman appeared in the Adventures of Superman starting with #501. He is the result of the brief time Cadmus attempted to clone Superman. He later had a career as Superboy.
  • The Last Son of Krypton was a visored, energy-powered alien who dealt with criminals lethally. The Last Son of Krypton appeared in Action Comics starting with #687. He claims to have the memories of the original Superman, but his emotional distance makes Lois uncertain. He later was discovered to be the Eradicator, a reformed Superman enemy.[3]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8comics%29.jpg


Oh Ok..now I remember, and I really hated the way that DC butchered that whole run, I hated the Superman mullet and the fact they tried to steal the black suit idea that Marvel made famous with Spider-man but most of all I am mad that Shaq made that horrid movie, Steel.


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