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cheerfulgreek 01-09-2009 10:12 AM

Anti Virus 2009
 
Has anyone heard of Anti Virus 2009? It keeps popping up, and it wants me to buy it for $49.99. I tried closing it out, but it keeps popping up every 5 minutes. I got my laptop for Christmas, so it's brand new. I thought it was already protected. I'll go ahead and purchase the software (I almost feel like I have to because it won't stop popping up) but how do I know if it's not something weird being downloaded onto my computer? I'll be the first one to admit, I don't really know a whole lot about computers. I just want to know has anyone heard of it? It keeps saying it's found 15 errors on my computer. I don't see how, when I only sign on to GC, check my e-mail and do school work.

Help?:(

nikki1920 01-09-2009 10:32 AM

OMG!! That happened to me last week before my computer crashed!!!! WTF is it? And I had to do a system restore.

cheerfulgreek 01-09-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1763129)
OMG!! That happened to me last week before my computer crashed!!!! WTF is it? And I had to do a system restore.

:eek:

OMG!!!!!!!! It said my coumputer could crash too!!:( It showed me everything it found. It popped up again after my original post, and it said that I have 18 errors. (It wasn't 15) It keeps telling me I have to get the license before I pay for it. (click here to prevent crash)

I'm just going to buy the software, because if my computer crashes I won't have a clue of what to do.

DaemonSeid 01-09-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1763135)
:eek:

OMG!!!!!!!! It said my coumputer could crash too!!:( It showed me everything it found. It popped up again after my original post, and it said that I have 18 errors. (It wasn't 15) It keeps telling me I have to get the license before I pay for it. (click here to prevent crash)

I'm just going to buy the software, because if my computer crashes I won't have a clue of what to do.

NOOOOOOO!!!DONT DO THAT!!!


ITS SPYWARE!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DO IT!!!!!

SERIOUSLY!!!!

RU OX Alum 01-09-2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1763160)
NOOOOOOO!!!DONT DO THAT!!!


ITS SPYWARE!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DO IT!!!!!

SERIOUSLY!!!!

Yeah, what he said, DON'T PUT THAT ON YOUR COMPUTER, IT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!!

MysticCat 01-09-2009 11:59 AM

What DS said!!! Never even click on one of those things, much less buy from it!!!

You do need an anti-virus program (if for no other reason than to remove and fix what ever you put on your computer by clicking on the pop-up), but NOT one that you buy through a pop-up. Look at Norton or McAfee. You pay for those, but they are worth it. There are also some freeware programs that can be helpful, such as Spybot - Search and Destroy or Ad-Aware (which has a free version as well as version you pay for).

Anyone else know of other good anti-virus/anti-malware programs?

KSigkid 01-09-2009 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1763174)
What DS said!!! Never even click on one of those things, much less buy from it!!!

You do need an anti-virus program (if for no other reason than to remove and fix what ever you put on your computer by clicking on the pop-up), but NOT one that you buy through a pop-up. Look at Norton or McAfee. You pay for those, but they are worth it. There are also some freeware programs that can be helpful, such as Spybot - Search and Destroy or Ad-Aware (which has a free version as well as version you pay for).

Anyone else know of other good anti-virus/anti-malware programs?

For what it's worth, I've had better luck with Norton than McAfee.

I have had horrible luck with Panda, though.

DaemonSeid 01-09-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1763174)
What DS said!!! Never even click on one of those things, much less buy from it!!!

You do need an anti-virus program (if for no other reason than to remove and fix what ever you put on your computer by clicking on the pop-up), but NOT one that you buy through a pop-up. Look at Norton or McAfee. You pay for those, but they are worth it. There are also some freeware programs that can be helpful, such as Spybot - Search and Destroy or Ad-Aware (which has a free version as well as version you pay for).

Anyone else know of other good anti-virus/anti-malware programs?

Really nervous now that we havent heard from her in over an hr....

I was just discussing some AV options a few days ago since she just got a new PC.

and guys sorry to sound like a naysayer, but I strong discourage using macfee or norton...while they are very well known names, there is also a little known fact to the average person that they are also resource hogs and sometimes, when your PC slows down, they may actually be the culprit and in a few rare cases are actually are the culrpits behind some crashes and BSODs I have seen within the past 3 years but that depends on your machine and the OS


My recommendations

Fix It Utilities (I have been using that for the past 3 years on my XP machines)

AVG freeware - not as intrusive or resource intensive

Someone said spybot....it's a great secondary resource

and also I think I saw someone mention Adware.


To reiterate: it depends sometimes on your machine's configuration and your OS.

...come on CG...let us know that you didnt click that button!

MysticCat 01-09-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1763191)
and guys sorry to sound like a naysayer, but I strong discourage using macfee or norton...while they are very well known names, there is also a little known fact to the average person that they are also resource hogs and sometimes, when your PC slows down, they may actually be the culprit and in a few rare cases are actually are the culrpits behind some crashes and BSODs I have seen within the past 3 years but that depends on your machine and the OS

I have noticed that with McAfee, especially after start-up when it's updating and scanning in the background. Maybe I'll try Fix-It Utilities.

And yeah, I've always used Spybot or Ad-Aware as a second line of defense.

Maybe CG is in class?

DaemonSeid 01-09-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1763197)
I have noticed that with McAfee, especially after start-up when it's updating and scanning in the background. Maybe I'll try Fix-It Utilities.

And yeah, I've always used Spybot or Ad-Aware as a second line of defense.

Maybe CG is in class?

yeah...i forgot...some of us are still in school now...heh!

and where does norton's and macafee get off charging a yearly fee to use their software now????

Or has that changed?

lovespink88 01-09-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1763205)

and where does norton's and macafee get off charging a yearly fee to use their software now????

Actually, you can sometimes find full anti-virus software for free. Well at least you can with McAfee, which is what I have. I don't have any complaints with McAfee, but I will second MysticCat said about your computer slowing down a bit when a scan is running. But for me, it's only when the scan is running, and I'm usually not using it when I do a virus scan anyways.

Anywho, I know if your Internet service provider is Comcast, you can get the free, full version of McAfee anti-virus.

When you're logged into your account, you can click on the top right corner, the link that says "Security", and it takes you to a page where you can download McAfee, as long as you have an account with Comcast.

My school also offers free virus protection (I'm pretty sure it's either McAfee or Norton) for students, faculity, or anyone with a school computer login. You might want to look in to see if yours does too. It can probably be found on your schools technology page.

And I agree with getting a spyware program as well. Ad-Aware has worked great for me!

nikki1920 01-09-2009 01:30 PM

DS: I had the AVG freeware, and still got hit with something. It was the 30 day trial version, though. There is a full service free one from them?

DaemonSeid 01-09-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1763227)
DS: I had the AVG freeware, and still got hit with something. It was the 30 day trial version, though. There is a full service free one from them?

AV software and condoms have one thing in common, the can't stop all viruses from getting thru and infecting you...bteer have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

KSig RC 01-09-2009 02:19 PM

For the 'average' user, Windows Defender is probably the best AV option - I know, MS sucks, but they bought it from someone else. It's very, very good, although moderately resource-intensive (and it plugs right into OneCare, which is quite promising). The price is right, too.

Past that, you should be running some sort of spyware suite - I run scans from malwarebytes, plus run SnoopFree in the background to prevent keyboard hooking.

luv n tpa 01-09-2009 02:37 PM

I had this ridiculous thing and it got past Windows Defender, Norton AND Adware.

Try Malwarebytes Anti-malware. It's the only one that worked for me.

agzg 01-09-2009 02:58 PM

I've got AVG and it works well for me.

I also have "I don't click on random links or popups."

DaemonSeid 01-09-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1763267)
I've got AVG and it works well for me.

I also have "I don't click on random links or popups."

worse yet....cg has Vista and u know Vista takes you thru a zillion pop ups for premission so I am wondering if she thought that this was one thing that she needed to allow?

AGDee 01-09-2009 03:34 PM

I've cleaned this thing off of 5 PCs so far, all with McAfee. It disables McAfee so it doesn't stop it. My daughter has gotten it twice on my laptop and once on her desktop while surfing either My Yearbook or MySpace. I have banned her from my laptop. It's a real biotch to clean too. I do this for a living and have spent hours manually removing that thing from PCs. I hate it. Hate it! She had that one box pop up asking if you want to install or cancel (the second time it got my laptop) and I just shut off the laptop (hard reboot, not using ShutDown), hoping that it wasn't saved to the registry yet but it was. UGH!!!!!!!! I hate that virus. It makes me miserable and it is the most difficult one I've ever had to remove.

aephi alum 01-09-2009 04:28 PM

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. (Unfortunately this bit of wisdom is coming too late for you, CG.)

I've been happy with McAfee and Ad-Aware (which reminds me, I need to put Ad-Aware on my new laptop). Once your computer is infected, cleaning it off can be a major PITA. The "Anti Virus 2009" virus has been out for a few months, though - I'm surprised the AV programs haven't addressed it adequately.

As for Vista... I cannot stand all those "allow/deny" pop-ups. I can't even do an ipconfig release/renew from the command line without my machine whining that I'm not an administrator. If I get one more pop-up I'm putting Linux on this thing.

AGDee 01-09-2009 05:23 PM

In my experience, the virus disables McAfee before McAfee knows what's going on. It truly is making me crazy. It registers a dll and a handle and associates them with winlogon.exe and explorer.exe. You can't rename them or delete them because they are always in use, even in safe mode. When you delete their registry keys, the virus re-creates them immediately. Truly maddening. Now, I boot with a floppy boot disk and delete them through DOS. You can use process explorer to stop the handle association and then rename the files also, but until you've removed the handle association, it just keeps coming back.

kddani 01-09-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by luv n tpa (Post 1763251)
Try Malwarebytes Anti-malware. It's the only one that worked for me.

Ditto. Malwarebytes Anti-malware is my new love. It got this virus off my father's computer, and got another VERY nasty one off of mine. It's free, its easy and doesn't take too long.

epchick 01-09-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1763191)
and guys sorry to sound like a naysayer, but I strong discourage using macfee or norton...while they are very well known names, there is also a little known fact to the average person that they are also resource hogs and sometimes, when your PC slows down, they may actually be the culprit and in a few rare cases are actually are the culrpits behind some crashes and BSODs I have seen within the past 3 years but that depends on your machine and the OS

That happened with this computer when I had Norton. Sometimes Norton wouldn't load, which meant nothing else would work (like Internet Explorer would never open, etc). So I got McAfee. At first everything was cool, but for the past few months my computer has been sooooooooooooo slow. I thought it was adware/spyware (although McAfee doesn't find anything), but maybe it is McAfee. Thanks for the info DS.

aephi alum 01-09-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1763354)
In my experience, the virus disables McAfee before McAfee knows what's going on. It truly is making me crazy. It registers a dll and a handle and associates them with winlogon.exe and explorer.exe. You can't rename them or delete them because they are always in use, even in safe mode. When you delete their registry keys, the virus re-creates them immediately. Truly maddening. Now, I boot with a floppy boot disk and delete them through DOS. You can use process explorer to stop the handle association and then rename the files also, but until you've removed the handle association, it just keeps coming back.

ICK. That's nasty. What kind of sick puppies come up with this stuff?

RU OX Alum 01-09-2009 09:08 PM

Oh no, I have a feeling she bought it and wrecked her computer

DaemonSeid 01-09-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1763458)
Oh no, I have a feeling she bought it and wrecked her computer

she's good...I just got a PM....Dell took care of her and fixed it.

cheerfulgreek 01-09-2009 10:29 PM

You guys, today has been the biggest nightmare ever. This morning somewhere around 2 or 3am, I was posting on GC and the whole time, after I clicked on the Anti Virus 2009 thingie, it just kept popping up. It kept giving me a message attached to it that said this:

"Windows security center reports that Anti Virus 2009 is inactive. Anti Virus 2009 helps to protect your computer against viruses and other security threats. Click here for suggested action. Your system might be at risk now."

I wrote this down before I went to school and tried to post it here, but I really had to go. When I got to school I asked a classmate about it, and he said don't do it. I told him I already clicked on it. He asked me if I entered my cc#. I said not yet. He said don't. He told me my computer was infected with a virus. The whole time I was in class I couldn't even hear what the instructor was saying. I was that worried. I just couldn't stay, so I left early and called Dell. I stayed on the phone with the guy for about 2 hours then we disconnected and talked via chat. When I first called, I told him what the problem was and as soon as I said Anti Virus 2009 he said uh oh. He told me everything. You guys, I didn't even know what spyware was until today. I knew what a virus was but not spyware. I asked him how it got there, and he said I either clicked on an infected site or infected e-mail. I told him I couldn't see how, because the only sites I go to are greekchat, and some of the prairie dog sites. And with the prairie dog sites, I was signing onto those when the ban was lifted, and that was on my old laptop and nothing ever happened like this. He told me it could have been any one of those sites I clicked on. I've actually learned more about computers in 3 hours than I've done my whole life. I ordered a Norton anti virus CD. He said the anti virus I had, expired. My mom bought my laptop for me to use for school, but she only got the free 30 day trial. The Dell guy told me Norton was the best one. He said that's what he uses. So I got that one. I had to pay for everything, and it was kind of a lot but at least it got fixed. They said issues like this weren't covered when the computer was purchased.

I will never, ever do that again.

I'm going back to read the comments you guys posted. I just wanted to post this.

AGDee 01-10-2009 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aephi alum (Post 1763415)
ICK. That's nasty. What kind of sick puppies come up with this stuff?

The registry keys will keep re-creating themselves too. I tried changing values then changing the permissions on the keys to stop that and it just made a new registry key or changed it all back to how it was originally, even when I denied access to the registry key to EVERYBODY and the system account. I swear I was ready to kill that kid of mine.

aephi alum 01-10-2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1763485)
You guys, today has been the biggest nightmare ever.
<snip>
The Dell guy told me Norton was the best one. He said that's what he uses. So I got that one.

I'm glad to hear you were able to recover your system and get back online. That Norton comment was very interesting - my brand new Dell laptop shipped with McAfee...

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1763537)
The registry keys will keep re-creating themselves too. I tried changing values then changing the permissions on the keys to stop that and it just made a new registry key or changed it all back to how it was originally, even when I denied access to the registry key to EVERYBODY and the system account. I swear I was ready to kill that kid of mine.

YEOW. That's really evil. I hope karma delivers a nasty bite in the posterior to whoever came up with this virus.

lovespink88 01-10-2009 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1763485)
He said the anti virus I had, expired. My mom bought my laptop for me to use for school, but she only got the free 30 day trial.

I had a feeling that might have been the problem when you said you had virus protection, but you were still getting messages. I hate those free trials that come with the new computer! They expire so quick it's not even worth it.

Glad you got everything fixed though!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1763286)
I've cleaned this thing off of 5 PCs so far, all with McAfee. It disables McAfee so it doesn't stop it.

I had a similar problem recently. I don't think it was this virus but it was something. I kept getting pop ups (not anything related to viruses), and then I would get a little notification in the corner coming from McAfee saying I wasn't fully protected. I would open up McAfee and clicked the button that said "Fix" but within a few minutes something would shut it off again.

Somehow I was able to get the virus scan running before it shut off again. I also ran Ad-Aware right after, and one of the two got the virus. It was a close one!

twinkle555 01-10-2009 03:55 PM

I just started getting the AntiVirus 2009 pop ups about 2 weeks ago too. I have McAfee..well I did anyways..im guessing AV2009 turns it off. My boyfriend got it on his laptop too!! Luckily he has a portable hardrive that he takes off his important stuff and totally reboot his system. He did it to my laptop a month ago when porn links kept installing themselves:mad:

So now I have AV2009 popping up 24/7 AND this new thing called Spyware Guard 2008. I have no idea what it is but now that thing pops up where than AV2009!!! Right now I have 3 pop up ads and a popup from Spyware Guard 2008 minimized. 'Guard' my ASS!

Anyone else have a problem with the Spyware Guard thing?

PM_Mama00 01-10-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki1920 (Post 1763227)
DS: I had the AVG freeware, and still got hit with something. It was the 30 day trial version, though. There is a full service free one from them?

I had AVG for over a year (paid subscription) and had over 1000 trojans on my computer before it crashed. I bought PC-Cillin for my laptop and my computer guy said it's one of the best. It was about $45. Well worth it for a year subscription and it's been great blocking viruses. It's pretty easy to use too.

QueenIrishRose 01-12-2009 01:01 PM

I use spybot and NOD32 on my computer


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