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bama24 12-29-2008 01:19 AM

Is 24 to old to join a Fraternity?
 
Im 24, from Alabama, and plan on transferring to Alabama or Auburn as a Jr. Do you think there is any chance that they will be interested in me because of my age? I assume they would not. I spent the last 4 years traveling with a band all over the place and I’m ready for a change and to finish school. I’m afraid that there won’t be a lot of people my age to hang out with because of my age unless I join a fraternity because of its built-in social atmosphere.
Any ideas or suggestions would be great…

swampcritter04 12-29-2008 12:32 PM

hey bro ill be 25 when i transfer to UGA..and well i was wondering the same thing.
ive been kickin in doors and getting blown up for the past 5 yrs in the army so the dream of going to uga and pledging has been whats gotten my thru my 3 tours to the sandbox...so i hope there are room out there for guys like us

fsustudent 12-29-2008 11:21 PM

I know someone that is 25 and is in a fraternity, he is a really fun guy and is highly respected. He is a sophmore right now and started college after the army. Honestly, I think being older helps because 1. You will probably be more mature than the average freshman. and 2. You will be respected for fighting overseas. I think it is more about personality than your age.

AlphaDeltaDelta 12-29-2008 11:30 PM

We had a guy pledge at 23... He was referred to as Murp (Mr. Pledge).

Blue Skies 12-29-2008 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by swampcritter04 (Post 1759242)
hey bro ill be 25 when i transfer to UGA..and well i was wondering the same thing.
ive been kickin in doors and getting blown up for the past 5 yrs in the army so the dream of going to uga and pledging has been whats gotten my thru my 3 tours to the sandbox...so i hope there are room out there for guys like us

Swampcritter, I just want to say, God bless you for your service to our country. I think that you will truly enjoy your college experience no matter what the outcome is to your fraternity recruitment. Please let us know how things turn out for you. :)

WhyGoGreek 01-02-2009 04:19 PM

There is no age cut-off, bar none.

In fact, I would say you have a major advantage going into a house being a little older, especially if you have military experience!

Pledge classes often look to their older members for leadership and mentorship, and having served overseas (or in a band, even) gives you a great deal of experience you can bring to the table.

Just make sure when you find he house you want to join, you emphasis theses qualities, and don't dwell on the age subject.

-James

Elephant Walk 01-03-2009 12:31 AM

Don't give him false hopes.

Age CAN be a detriment.

And often will be, at Alabama/Auburn.

rufio 01-03-2009 07:29 AM

one of my pledge brothers was 25. i never really gave it a second thought. but yeah, at some schools and some chapters the age difference might be a bit of an issue

als463 01-03-2009 09:04 PM

thoughts?
 
What about at Syracuse?

EE-BO 01-03-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1760649)
Don't give him false hopes.

Age CAN be a detriment.

And often will be, at Alabama/Auburn.

Very true. I think the "why" matters a lot as well though. Military service is, in my experience, rarely a problem. Being in a band, I am not so sure. I guess it depends on the type of band and the part of the country where you plan to pledge.

I will just tell you that when I was an active in my chapter, military service as a reason for pledging older would not have bothered me at all- but being in a band/going to LA to be an actor etc. would at the very least have made me cautious- and it would have taken a lot to convince me to vote yes for extending a bid.

EW and CB correct me if I am wrong; but if a guy were from the same high school, background and reputation as is the norm for top tier chapters at a given school- then I do not see how having served in the military first would be an issue except possibly for the fact there are already too many top prospect incoming freshman right out of high school for that chapter to expand the pool of potential rushees.

In other words, a guy who went into the military and did not come right from high school to college could be out of the running purely due to the realities of numbers- but would still be a good candidate provided there was room in the pledge class.

On the issue of being in a band or some other show business type venture, I cannot speak for every school- but at Texas, Auburn and Georgia that would be a very unusual issue for most chapters. It really comes down to the types of guys that populate most big southern chapters and the fact that being a "star" is not a common pursuit, nor something that is generally looked upon with favor.

bama24- I still say go for it and see how it goes. Noone here can tell you if you will find a good place. But just be prepared for the fact a lot of questions might be raised, and just be honest. If you are honest about what you did and why- then if there is a good place for you, you will get a bid. The one mistake would be to downplay the last few years like they did not matter. That will make you look shiftless and without direction. But if you are glad you took that time to travel with a band, own it and it will be to your credit that you gave it a shot when the opportunity arose.

Elephant Walk 01-04-2009 09:41 PM

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EW and CB correct me if I am wrong; but if a guy were from the same high school, background and reputation as is the norm for top tier chapters at a given school- then I do not see how having served in the military first would be an issue except possibly for the fact there are already too many top prospect incoming freshman right out of high school for that chapter to expand the pool of potential rushees.
Essentially.

But the fact that he's lost alot of his rushing ability (being no longer connected to the high school/home town), kind of hurts him.

JavaServerDown 01-15-2009 02:26 PM

My Big Bro pledged when he was 25. We had a 28 year old pledge last spring, and a 26 year old pledge currently.

My chapter doesn't take age into consideration when extending bids, as long as the guy is cool and fits well with our chapter.

Just go out and rush to find a fraternity you fit in with =)

lucgreek 01-16-2009 03:53 PM

In my experience, the older a guy is the less active he is due to other obligations. IMO once you get over 21/22 the person fits in less. Granted if the person is military then that doesn't tend to be an issue, but all others fit into the mold of being less active.

Unless the school is really nontraditional, I couldn't imagine having anyone over 22 pledging that wasn't in the military. I think at mixers a 28 year old would be a burden. I can just picture a 28 year old new pledge trying to score with some 18 year old sorority pledge. (Doing the math he was 20 when most of the girls were 10-13. Gross)

harlemboi 01-16-2009 06:59 PM

if you dont feel comfortable, wait to graduation and pledge as a grad, there are members in fraternities that are even in their 80's

Elephant Walk 01-16-2009 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by harlemboi (Post 1766584)
if you dont feel comfortable, wait to graduation and pledge as a grad, there are members in fraternities that are even in their 80's

Not in traditionally white fraternities, which we've sort of presupposed he's interested in.

33girl 01-16-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lucgreek (Post 1766486)
Unless the school is really nontraditional, I couldn't imagine having anyone over 22 pledging that wasn't in the military. I think at mixers a 28 year old would be a burden. I can just picture a 28 year old new pledge trying to score with some 18 year old sorority pledge. (Doing the math he was 20 when most of the girls were 10-13. Gross)

Well, at a school like that, there are usually some older girls in the sororities too, so it all shakes out. My school had a few fraternity members who were 23+. They usually had steady GDI girlfriends and had joined the fraternity/went to mixers to hang out with their brothers - not hit on the 18 year old girls.

lucgreek 01-16-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1766661)
Well, at a school like that, there are usually some older girls in the sororities too, so it all shakes out. My school had a few fraternity members who were 23+. They usually had steady GDI girlfriends and had joined the fraternity/went to mixers to hang out with their brothers - not hit on the 18 year old girls.

I don't understand :p

knight_shadow 01-17-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by harlemboi (Post 1766584)
if you dont feel comfortable, wait to graduation and pledge as a grad, there are members in fraternities that are even in their 80's

I'm glad a non-Greek high school student was able to chime in :rolleyes:

brwn skn 79 01-17-2009 02:19 AM

why not, I joined later as well. GL

lucgreek 01-17-2009 04:24 AM

Should clarify that the person isn't referring to NPHC orgs...

nate2512 01-17-2009 01:05 PM

How many of these threads do we have to read? seriously? do they think they are going to get a different reaction from everyone cause they are special?

and how do they know who to listen to when there is so many people saying different things? if its a traditionally southern school which we presume to be traditional white fraternities, why not just let EE-BO or EW take the question and nail with one answer instead of everyone arguing. Pay attention people.

Yes, in everyone's fuzzy warm opinion, everyone no matter age, race, whatever else, should get into a fraternity. And some places those things don't matter. But some places they do, so if you don't know what you are talking about, don't pump these guys up for let down.

Senusret I 01-17-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1766821)
How many of these threads do we have to read? seriously?

Seriously, I wasn't aware that we had to read any of them.

SRB 01-20-2009 02:12 PM

As long as you apply all the teachings of your organization (our organization teaches the Scouting principles) in your life, age doesnt matter.

More power to SRB and all the greek fraternities whose pursose is to serve.

CrackerBarrel 01-20-2009 08:12 PM

Sorry it took me so long to find my way over here.

The past couple years in particular we have had one or two older guys a year maybe (a lot of times about the same age as the seniors who came straight from HS) get bids after coming back from Iraq. I can't think of anyone in my time at the fraternity older than about 21 who pledged except for the military guys though. I'm pretty sure there may be houses who take older guys, particularly if they would have fit in with the top houses if not for age, but my particular house isn't one of them.

My inclination would be to say, hell, you have nothing to lose by rushing, but I wouldn't go in with real high hopes planning to be in a top house.

migreek 02-01-2009 08:23 PM

Not that sure, I was inform that you usually would have to rush your freshmen year.

nate2512 02-01-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1773406)
Not that sure, I was inform that you usually would have to rush your freshmen year.

I'm here to inform you that you're an idiot.

migreek 02-01-2009 09:03 PM

?

knight_shadow 02-01-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1773406)
Not that sure, I was inform that you usually would have to rush your freshmen year.

Why are you giving fraternity advice if you're in high school?

migreek 02-01-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1773468)
Why are you giving fraternity advice if you're in high school?

There was no advice given.
Read:"Not that sure, I was inform...."

nate2512 02-01-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1773478)
There was no advice given.
Read:"Not that sure, I was inform...."

You were informed wrong, how did you make it to high school?

migreek 02-01-2009 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1773500)
You were informed wrong, how did you make it to high school?

This obviously has nothing to do with high school.

Now making my post to this next after next reply is ridiculous.

knight_shadow 02-01-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1773478)
There was no advice given.
Read:"Not that sure, I was inform...."

If you're not that sure, why even chime in? Especially after so many other people who are sure have already spoken?

migreek 02-01-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1773505)
If you're not that sure, why even chime in? Especially after so many other people who are sure have already spoken?

To give my opinion, I don't see how the person who asked the question would be angry about it. I made it clear enough that it was what I was inform, and not from my own knowledge.

( It happens all the time on threads)

knight_shadow 02-01-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1773511)
To give my opinion, I don't see how the person who asked the question would be angry about it. I made it clear enough that it was what I was inform, and not from my own knowledge.

( It happens all the time on threads)

Your opinion doesn't help the OP. You don't know enough about the Greek system to recognize what type of organization he's pursuing and whether the information you're giving him is accurate.

Again, there's nothing wrong with having and giving your opinion; you just need to know when to give it.

CrackerBarrel 02-01-2009 10:14 PM

Yes but does it make sense for a high school junior to chime in and say that all of the people who are actually in fraternities are wrong about how fraternities work?

knight_shadow 02-01-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1773518)
Yes but does it make sense for a high school junior to chime in and say that all of the people who are actually in fraternities are wrong about how fraternities work?

This bears repeating. Thanks, CB.

migreek 02-01-2009 10:21 PM

I've never said all people in fraternities are wrong about how fraternities work. As being online, I'm even clueless on actually whether people ( on this website) who claim to be in a fraternity are actually in one.

I felt the need to give my opinion, and I did. There is no big deal, the asker got many post already to make an educated guess.

I wouldn't be surprise from what I was inform does at least apply to some fraternities.

migreek 02-01-2009 10:23 PM

Other than that, seems like more of what your doing is practicing online hazing... or somesort ( with this nonsense of attacks on my post).

knight_shadow 02-01-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1773529)
I've never said all people in fraternities are wrong about how fraternities work. As being online, I'm even clueless on actually whether people ( on this website) who claim to be in a fraternity are actually in one.

I felt the need to give my opinion, and I did. There is no big deal, the asker got many post already to make an educated guess.

I wouldn't be surprise from what I was inform does at least apply to some fraternities.

So...you've been a member for a whole day, and you're unsure about who's who on this website? That's just crazy talk!! :rolleyes:

Bottom line: if someone asks about the way things work in fraternities and sororities, let members of fraternities and sororities answer. You may have been "inform" something, but we (as members) know how it really is. No one is telling you not to have an opinion, but you need to learn to stay in your lane.

CrackerBarrel 02-01-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by migreek (Post 1773529)
I've never said all people in fraternities are wrong about how fraternities work. As being online, I'm even clueless on actually whether people ( on this website) who claim to be in a fraternity are actually in one.

I felt the need to give my opinion, and I did. There is no big deal, the asker got many post already to make an educated guess.

I wouldn't be surprise from what I was inform does at least apply to some fraternities.

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