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Barber Shop 12-02-2008 08:25 PM

Fraternity Chore Systems
 
So my fraternity, recently recolonized and is slowly establishing systems for our house. I'm the standards chair/ house manager and am trying to figure out good ways to 1. actually get guys to do their chores, 2. Get them to do them at least decently well 3. Get them to do chores on time.

I know every house has some lazy guys, mine has a lot, and I get tired of being more or less the house maid.:mad: I have no problem getting in peoples faces about chores and nagging but we still don't have any good system in place having tried at least 3 or 4 different ones under different house managers over the past 2 years. Fines on house bills haven't been very effective since a lot of the guys just give the bill to their parents and I'm not really sure how to enforce social probation.

Any help?

Barber Shop 12-02-2008 08:26 PM

forgot to mention, house points haven't really worked for our house since room selection is done by the President and by you ranking/age in the house

33girl 12-03-2008 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Barber Shop (Post 1750385)
I'm not really sure how to enforce social probation.

When you have a mixer, they aren't allowed to go to it. Easy peasy.

Kevin 12-03-2008 02:08 AM

Tell folks to either do the chores they're assigned or you'll hire a cleaning service and raise dues.

Barber Shop 12-03-2008 11:17 AM

Problem is also that the majority of the guys not doing the chores, also the ones that don't go to exchanges anyway...go figure. I was wondering what some people did in their houses?

Elephant Walk 12-03-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Barber Shop (Post 1750385)
So my fraternity, recently recolonized and is slowly establishing systems for our house. I'm the standards chair/ house manager and am trying to figure out good ways to 1. actually get guys to do their chores, 2. Get them to do them at least decently well 3. Get them to do chores on time.

I know every house has some lazy guys, mine has a lot, and I get tired of being more or less the house maid.:mad: I have no problem getting in peoples faces about chores and nagging but we still don't have any good system in place having tried at least 3 or 4 different ones under different house managers over the past 2 years. Fines on house bills haven't been very effective since a lot of the guys just give the bill to their parents and I'm not really sure how to enforce social probation.

Any help?

Pledges.

knight_shadow 12-03-2008 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1750694)
Pledges.

LOL

...i mean, that's hazing! :mad::)

AlphaDeltaDelta 12-03-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1750704)
LOL

...i mean, that's hazing! :mad::)

It's not hazing if you have the pledges do most of the work but have a few of the younger brothers help. "Last initiated, do ______" is one of the most uttered phrases in our Lodge. Honestly though I'm not sure how fraternities with big houses do without a cleaning service, compared to the houses in the south, our Lodge is small and we still need a weekly cleaning service or it gets out of control.

Elephant Walk 12-03-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1750704)
LOL

...i mean, that's hazing! :mad::)

For the two weeks we don't have pledges, the house goes to shit...even with the maid.

LaneSig 12-03-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1750817)
For the two weeks we don't have pledges, the house goes...even with the maid.

Did you finally affiliate or are you talking about LSU?

LodgerNCSU 12-04-2008 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaDeltaDelta (Post 1750809)
It's not hazing if you have the pledges do most of the work but have a few of the younger brothers help. "Last initiated, do ______" is one of the most uttered phrases in our Lodge. Honestly though I'm not sure how fraternities with big houses do without a cleaning service, compared to the houses in the south, our Lodge is small and we still need a weekly cleaning service or it gets out of control.

You need a weekly cleaning service? Sounds like your pledges are slacking. :P Next time Gilly stops by I will have him relay you guys some of our tips.

AlphaDeltaDelta 12-04-2008 07:39 AM

Haha i <3 Gilly... He is an ADD alum as I'm sure you knew

CrackerBarrel 12-04-2008 11:24 AM

We've got a janitor who comes every day to do a lot of the vacuuming and cleaning bathrooms kind of stuff, then pledges for doing dishes, cleaning up meals, mopping, picking up our destroyed house after a party, etc. If peoples' parents are paying anyways stop bitching at them to clean and just raise their dues and get a cleaning service, the cleaning will come out a lot better that way anyways.

Kevin 12-04-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1750704)
LOL

...i mean, that's hazing! :mad::)

The definition of hazing varies from group to group.

knight_shadow 12-04-2008 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaDeltaDelta (Post 1750809)
It's not hazing if you have the pledges do most of the work but have a few of the younger brothers help. "Last initiated, do ______" is one of the most uttered phrases in our Lodge. Honestly though I'm not sure how fraternities with big houses do without a cleaning service, compared to the houses in the south, our Lodge is small and we still need a weekly cleaning service or it gets out of control.

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1751250)
The definition of hazing varies from group to group.

Wow, looks like EW was the only one who got that. :rolleyes:

Barber Shop 12-04-2008 08:02 PM

Haha, yeah, we re-founded as a non-hazing and every brother is equal policy. I think I got it figured out. Found a site that generates fair chore lists and plus, if one of the 45 guys doesn't do their stuff, I'll just have them pay me out of pocket by the next party or do door duty the whole night sober.

Guys - Drinks - girls - dancing + Dull Work = Guys that get stuff done

There are 32 Fraternities on my campus, only one of which employs a cleaning person. I'm guessing a lot of the houses just pledge-itize their cleaning problems away.

Thanks

PS. you know how much you pay for that janitor/maid just in case nothing works?

CrackerBarrel 12-04-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barber Shop (Post 1751476)
PS. you know how much you pay for that janitor/maid just in case nothing works?

We have a guy who works half days 5 days a week, so while I don't know, I would imagine its no small expense. We're a big chapter, its not a big deal when you have 150+ active and 40 in the house, but with 45 active it would be more pricey on each individual (although you probably also have much less intense messes). I would really say rather than having a chores list you would do better to have a few brothers a week assigned to do some minor things and let the pledges do the rest. It's not hazing if brothers participate too, and I know that I (and most all of the guys I know) would either pay a fine instead of doing chores, or do a thoroughly half-assed job (or even more likely find a pledge and offer to give them my information/sign their pledge book/whatever if they would do the chore for me) if the fine was more than I was willing to pay.

Elephant Walk 12-06-2008 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Barber Shop (Post 1751476)
PS. you know how much you pay for that janitor/maid just in case nothing works?

Here's the plan on that one...

You know that bum who is always picking up your cans you threw in the dumpster after a party? Grab him, give him like two or three dollars an hour and a beer and the cleaning materials and enjoy the time off.

We did that twice when there were no pledges.


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