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DaemonSeid 11-12-2008 08:41 PM

She just won't go away peacefully into the night
 
Palin says she'd be honored to help Obama

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Gov. Sarah Palin said Wednesday that she would be honored to help President-elect Barack Obama in his new administration, even if he did hang around with an "unrepentant domestic terrorist."

The Alaska governor said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that she would be willing to help if Obama asked her for assistance on some of the issues she highlighted during this year's campaign, such as energy or services for special-needs children.

"It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration," said Palin, whom Sen. John McCain chose as his running mate in August.

"I speak for other Republicans and Republican governors, also," she said.

"They would be willing also to seize this opportunity that we have to progress this nation together, in a united front." Watch CNN's Wolf Blitzer interview Palin »

But asked moments later about some of the tough rhetoric she hurled from the stump, she said she was "still concerned" about Obama's ties to former Weather Underground member-turned-Chicago college professor William Ayers.

"If anybody still wants to talk about it, I will," she said. "Because this is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who had campaigned to blow up, to destroy our Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/12/palin/index.html

ZTAMich 11-12-2008 08:48 PM

It's the polite thing to do, as part of the losing ticket, to say she would like to help Obama. I'd like to think a lot of people, not just Palin, have realized that we need to put political parties aside and unify as a nation.

OneTimeSBX 11-12-2008 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZTAMich (Post 1743995)
It's the polite thing to do, as part of the losing ticket, to say she would like to help Obama. I'd like to think a lot of people, not just Palin, have realized that we need to put political parties aside and unify as a nation.

true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...

KSig RC 11-12-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1743996)
true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...

I mean, in theory . . . there should be a higher ideal (namely, the betterment of the United States of America) at play, regardless of rhetoric or even personal feelings, no?

DaemonSeid 11-12-2008 09:29 PM

yes...it's called the Warmup Round for 2012

OneTimeSBX 11-12-2008 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1743997)
I mean, in theory . . . there should be a higher ideal (namely, the betterment of the United States of America) at play, regardless of rhetoric or even personal feelings, no?

oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.

DaemonSeid 11-12-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1744022)
oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.

Bingo....thus the whole point of me posting this thread.

You talk shyte about me last week and now this week you want to be my friend.....

Hand out ready to be shaken but I need to be prepared for the dagger behind your back....as it were.

OneTimeSBX 11-12-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1744034)
Bingo....thus the whole point of me posting this thread.

You talk shyte about me last week and now this week you want to be my friend.....

Hand out ready to be shaken but I need to be prepared for the dagger behind your back....as it were.

EXACTLY! and like i said, its not a dem/rep issue, because i said the same thing about Hillary when she was in the primaries...i wonder if that didnt ultimately cost her the vp nomination...

DaemonSeid 11-12-2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1744037)
EXACTLY! and like i said, its not a dem/rep issue, because i said the same thing about Hillary when she was in the primaries...i wonder if that didnt ultimately cost her the vp nomination...

Cant walk thru the political playground without getting your shoes dirty.

OneTimeSBX 11-12-2008 10:06 PM

lol! all that mud...:)

texas*princess 11-12-2008 10:08 PM

Yea.. I have a feeling Mr. Obama will not be needing her services.

Bless her heart!

AOII_LB93 11-12-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1744017)
yes...it's called the Warmup Round for 2012

Oh please, I know even staunch republicans who wouldn't vote for her. She might like to think she will be a viable candidate, but there are others who would be far better choices.

This is my complaint with American politics....we need a viable 3rd party. I'm not 100% dem, I'm not 100% republican. We need a middle of the road party.

Who's with me?;)

LightBulb 11-12-2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1744052)
I'm not 100% dem, I'm not 100% republican. We need a middle of the road party.

...maybe the Libertarians? Fiscally conservative, socially liberal?

Or do you mean middle-of-the-road on social issues?

OneTimeSBX 11-12-2008 10:18 PM

i thought the republicrats has the third party locked down? lol!

AOII_LB93 11-12-2008 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightBulb (Post 1744054)
...maybe the Libertarians? Fiscally conservative, socially liberal?

Or do you mean middle-of-the-road on social issues?

Nah, libertarians don't work for me really either. I'm pretty much middle of the road all the way around.

I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here :))
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language


against:
-giving money to other nations (14 billion a year may not seem like a lot, bit still)when our people are going to bed hungry or dumber than the rest of the world
-retarded amounts of defense spending on weapons that no one can fight or have the need for anyhow
-lobbyists
-religion influencing govt.
-amnesty for those who came here illegally, many come legally, and yes your country might suck, but you know what? My grandparents, my husband's grand parents and other members of my family did it legally
-govt. snooping on personal stuff (big brother)
-pork barrel bulls---
-frivolous lawsuits (coffee is hot, don't stick it between your legs...and yes, peeps lots of mcdonalds makes you fat...your bad for eating it all the time.)
-inflated pricing for things we overproduce like milk, etc...
-genetically engineered food/people
-ridiculous standardized tests for students who are not the same
-voting in languages other than English. If you have the right to vote, you should be able to read and write English.

I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell. :)

KSigkid 11-12-2008 11:19 PM

Well, what exactly is she supposed to say? Should she go the Kerry model, and continue to be an attack dog for the party? Wouldn't it be a little weird for the VP candidate to essentially go into seclusion, especially when she still holds a leadership post in her state?

I mean, I am by no means a Palin fan, and I hope beyond hope that she fades from the picture before 2012. But, I think most of the comments in this thread have more to do with people's distaste for Palin than they do about the reality of the situation.

jitterbug13 11-12-2008 11:45 PM

Palin did say she wasn't going away and that she was going to be a white Oprah if she didn't get in the White House.


Oh wait, that was Tina Fey who said that. :p :D

DaemonSeid 11-13-2008 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1744052)
Oh please, I know even staunch republicans who wouldn't vote for her. She might like to think she will be a viable candidate, but there are others who would be far better choices.

This is my complaint with American politics....we need a viable 3rd party. I'm not 100% dem, I'm not 100% republican. We need a middle of the road party.

Who's with me?;)

That's it right there....people are talking like she has a chance...heck I don't know if she can even keep her governorship past her first term...she has LOT of work to do if she ever decides to run at the TOP of the ticket...time is on her side tho...she is only in her 40s.....she should get into a Hillary Boot Camp Course...

AOIIalum 11-13-2008 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1744073)
I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell. :)

I'm in based on your initial platform. What's next?

KSig RC 11-13-2008 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1744022)
oh absolutely...i just believe that depending on what you say about an apponent, it can damage your credibility in some citizens eyes. i have enough common sense to know that hey, they are politicians, so 85% of what is said is a lie, but after hearing from people in public different Obama rumors (muslim, doesnt stand for the flag, wont be sworn in with a bible, etc) and the people who actually take what is said as gospel, they will be the ones wondering why she is now helping him.

So . . . wouldn't that add credibility/legitimacy to the Obama camp?

I mean, the people that believe her as "gospel" clearly aren't smart enough to think critically on their own, according to what you're implying here, so sacrificing her own credibility for (an apparent) holistic or 'greater' good seems like a no-brainer if she ever wants to run again (since she's not really sacrificing anything).

She kind of has to say this, both for her political and patriotic well-being, doesn't she?

Besides this, as much as Palin is indeed awkward, stilted and lost, I don't consider it disingenuous in the slightest to say that you'd work with someone who you feel is a poor choice because it's for the best to do that rather than continue fighting . . . it's somewhat like staying together for the kids.

OneTimeSBX 11-13-2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1744160)
So . . . wouldn't that add credibility/legitimacy to the Obama camp?

I mean, the people that believe her as "gospel" clearly aren't smart enough to think critically on their own, according to what you're implying here, so sacrificing her own credibility for (an apparent) holistic or 'greater' good seems like a no-brainer if she ever wants to run again (since she's not really sacrificing anything).

She kind of has to say this, both for her political and patriotic well-being, doesn't she?

Besides this, as much as Palin is indeed awkward, stilted and lost, I don't consider it disingenuous in the slightest to say that you'd work with someone who you feel is a poor choice because it's for the best to do that rather than continue fighting . . . it's somewhat like staying together for the kids.

i dont think some of these people are going to look at it as boosting Obama's credibility at all...they are going to look at it as "staying together for the kids...". this is really just going off of what i have experienced since the election, there are some people, not many, who believe what she said and are HEATED because now they feel they dont know who to trust: Palin, who obviously lied to them, or Obama, who had some pretty scary things said about him. the ones i meet are siding with Palin: she is the "safer" choice in their minds... granted, this is a small group of people, i am hoping that as Jan 20th comes, they will focus on becoming educated and move forward.

and i second the fact that she needs someone like Obama...desperately!

DaemonSeid 11-13-2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1744160)
. . it's somewhat like staying together for the kids.

Good point to consider...but what do kids do? They see that their parents clearly are not happy and some start to choose sides. The parents appear happy on the outside (the face they show their kids) but on the inside they clearly cannot stand each other and are waiting for the kids to get grown so they can divorce.

Apply that logic to Obama / Palin...the only difference is...the 'kids (us) are grown and have an idea of what we see and what we are willing to tolerate from the 'parents'.

That is, I think the idea that now Palin saying that she wants to work with Obama after just weeks ago smearing him, is not such a good idea IMO

TonyB06 11-13-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1743996)
true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...


I thinks Gov. Palin has overreached a bit with this latest statement. Most politicians will "embellish" on the campaign trail. We don't really know the extent to which Palin really felt Obama "palled around with terrorists" and was bad for the country, or if she was following the McCain campaign attack points...we'll probably have to just wait for her book.

She'd have been better off in this instance just saying she wished the new president well, and was hoping for the best, not saying that she was "proud" of him. That strains the credulity of even the most casual political observer, never mind people who really follow the political process.

DaemonSeid 11-13-2008 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyB06 (Post 1744180)
I thinks Gov. Palin has overreached a bit with this latest statement. Most politicians will "embellish" on the campaign trail. We don't really know the extent to which Palin really felt Obama "palled around with terrorists" and was bad for the country, or if she was following the McCain campaign attack points...we'll probably have to just wait for her book.

She'd have been better off in this instance just saying she wished the new president well, and was hoping for the best, not saying that she was "proud" of him. That strains the credulity of even the most casual political observer, never mind people who really follow the political process.

Well put!

LightBulb 11-13-2008 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1744073)
I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here :))
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language

Personal responsibility is a bit abstract. That's not really something a good number of people would oppose.

OneTimeSBX 11-13-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1744073)
Nah, libertarians don't work for me really either. I'm pretty much middle of the road all the way around.

I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here :))
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language


against:
-giving money to other nations (14 billion a year may not seem like a lot, bit still)when our people are going to bed hungry or dumber than the rest of the world
-retarded amounts of defense spending on weapons that no one can fight or have the need for anyhow
-lobbyists
-religion influencing govt.
-amnesty for those who came here illegally, many come legally, and yes your country might suck, but you know what? My grandparents, my husband's grand parents and other members of my family did it legally
-govt. snooping on personal stuff (big brother)
-pork barrel bulls---
-frivolous lawsuits (coffee is hot, don't stick it between your legs...and yes, peeps lots of mcdonalds makes you fat...your bad for eating it all the time.)
-inflated pricing for things we overproduce like milk, etc...
-genetically engineered food/people
-ridiculous standardized tests for students who are not the same
-voting in languages other than English. If you have the right to vote, you should be able to read and write English.

I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell. :)

i like your thinking...this looks like my list of pros/cons...and i am :p @ the "pounds of maui wowee" comment!:D

AOII_LB93 11-13-2008 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOIIalum (Post 1744148)
I'm in based on your initial platform. What's next?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1744299)
i like your thinking...this looks like my list of pros/cons...and i am :p @ the "pounds of maui wowee" comment!:D

So I guess I should come up with a snazzy name for my future political party?
I don't know what's next just yet. I'll have a glass of wine and get back to you both. :)

jojapeach 11-14-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyB06 (Post 1744180)
I thinks Gov. Palin has overreached a bit with this latest statement. Most politicians will "embellish" on the campaign trail. We don't really know the extent to which Palin really felt Obama "palled around with terrorists" and was bad for the country, or if she was following the McCain campaign attack points...we'll probably have to just wait for her book.

She'd have been better off in this instance just saying she wished the new president well, and was hoping for the best, not saying that she was "proud" of him. That strains the credulity of even the most casual political observer, never mind people who really follow the political process.

Very well stated, and I especially agree with the bolded. She no longer has to be Obama's opponent, but Palin's sudden desire to help and any other warm fuzzy sunshine sentiments she could offer still makes her look like a comic book character: Two-Face.

I think she's prepping for 2012 in any way possible because, as they say in Alaska, there's more than one way to skin a moose.

jojapeach 11-14-2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1744073)
Nah, libertarians don't work for me really either. I'm pretty much middle of the road all the way around.

I'm so far gone it's ridiculous. I think I need to start my own party.
Pro:
-choice(but not for myself or late term)
-social programs (to an extent - but not lifers on things like welfare etc...)
-taking care of our vets
-having a standing army, but of highly trained individuals - a la special forces, etc...
-improving public education (intelligently)
-flat tax
-personal responsibility (I know, libertarian here)
- gun control, to an extent (my husband would want to shoot me here :))
- sustainable energy
-civil unions/ gay marriage
-capital punishment
-harsher living conditions in prison (for the real baddies, I mean really, do they need cable tv and to be able to work out daily?)
-marijuana legalization (for small amounts only, not pounds of the maui wowee)
-harsher punishment for sex crimes and crimes against children
-caring more about people in the US (i.e. Katrina, poverty, homelessness, inequity in education) and helping us truly become a "super" power
-stem cell research
-health care for all citizens
-mandatory foreign language education starting in elementary school
-English being the national language


against:
-giving money to other nations (14 billion a year may not seem like a lot, bit still)when our people are going to bed hungry or dumber than the rest of the world
-retarded amounts of defense spending on weapons that no one can fight or have the need for anyhow
-lobbyists
-religion influencing govt.
-amnesty for those who came here illegally, many come legally, and yes your country might suck, but you know what? My grandparents, my husband's grand parents and other members of my family did it legally
-govt. snooping on personal stuff (big brother)
-pork barrel bulls---
-frivolous lawsuits (coffee is hot, don't stick it between your legs...and yes, peeps lots of mcdonalds makes you fat...your bad for eating it all the time.)
-inflated pricing for things we overproduce like milk, etc...
-genetically engineered food/people
-ridiculous standardized tests for students who are not the same
-voting in languages other than English. If you have the right to vote, you should be able to read and write English.

I don't know...that's a lot, but not even the half. I should probably shut up now since I'm so far off topic and will probably get flamed to all hell. :)

I'M IN!!! :cool:

But... People can vote in the US in a language other than English right now, or is that something being proposed? Bad business.... :mad:

nittanyalum 11-14-2008 12:30 AM

I will personally pay everyone one dollar to just not say her name again. Let's just let her fade back into the wilderness. Please. Pretty pretty please. Big old heaping lump of sugar on top.

Last time I even want to approach mentioning her -- I will look forward to the 2012 GOP primaries -- Pawlenty, Crist, Jindal, Barbour, they'll destroy her. I believe it will be enjoyable to watch.

jojapeach 11-14-2008 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1744487)
I will personally pay everyone one dollar to just not say her name again. Let's just let her fade back into the wilderness. Please. Pretty pretty please. Big old heaping lump of sugar on top.

Last time I even want to approach mentioning her -- I will look forward to the 2012 GOP primaries -- Pawlenty, Crist, Jindal, Barbour, they'll destroy her. I believe it will be enjoyable to watch.

:eek::eek: @ the second part

Still :D:p:D at the top. Nittany, she'll eventually fade away...unless she wants to be like Oprah for real and be "UNLEASHED!" Damn it, she might even make it to Oprah now that the election's over. *sigh*

AOII_LB93 11-14-2008 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jojapeach (Post 1744481)
I'M IN!!! :cool:

But... People can vote in the US in a language other than English right now, or is that something being proposed? Bad business.... :mad:

In CA they can...the ballot comes in English and Spanish.:rolleyes:

LightBulb 11-14-2008 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1744507)
In CA they can...the ballot comes in English and Spanish.:rolleyes:

Nothin wrong with that... all citizens have the right to vote. Additionally, the USA has no official language.

scbelle 11-14-2008 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1743994)
Palin says she'd be honored to help Obama

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Gov. Sarah Palin said Wednesday that she would be honored to help President-elect Barack Obama in his new administration, even if he did hang around with an "unrepentant domestic terrorist."

The Alaska governor said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer that she would be willing to help if Obama asked her for assistance on some of the issues she highlighted during this year's campaign, such as energy or services for special-needs children.

"It would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration," said Palin, whom Sen. John McCain chose as his running mate in August.

"I speak for other Republicans and Republican governors, also," she said.

"They would be willing also to seize this opportunity that we have to progress this nation together, in a united front." Watch CNN's Wolf Blitzer interview Palin »

But asked moments later about some of the tough rhetoric she hurled from the stump, she said she was "still concerned" about Obama's ties to former Weather Underground member-turned-Chicago college professor William Ayers.

"If anybody still wants to talk about it, I will," she said. "Because this is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who had campaigned to blow up, to destroy our Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/12/palin/index.html

I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.

And I'm with nittany... I can't wait for 2012 and see Crist and Jindal, Barbour and Romney wipe the floor with she-who-will-not-be-named.

DaemonSeid 11-14-2008 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scbelle (Post 1744558)
I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.

And I'm with nittany... I can't wait for 2012 and see Crist and Jindal, Barbour and Romney wipe the floor with she-who-will-not-be-named.

Dang...lumping her in with Voldemort is kinda harsh huh?

heh!

KSig RC 11-14-2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scbelle (Post 1744558)
I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.

The CNN article is missing a little bit of context - apparently, Palin missed a meeting of all of the Republican governors to appear on CNN (twice), then had an individual press conference scheduled for the next day. Instead, she had 12 or so other R govs at the press conference, and they took all of four questions (all directed at her) where she made comments just like that one. Someone got in her ear and told her to get on the train - not surprising, since she looks like a huge asshole missing an important party event to get interviewed by Larry freaking King.

That gives a LOT more context to the quote - she's at least making an attempt to jump in line, and the current party line is "we're on the boat and not thinking about 2012, we have a lot of problems before then, blah blah blah."

Not that the quote is a great one even then, but it's at least not as selfish or self-exalting as it sounds out of context.

OneTimeSBX 11-14-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1744625)
Dang...lumping her in with Voldemort is kinda harsh huh?

heh!

i am mad i thought the same thing lol! we are too old to be making HP references! they do kinda resemble though...

AnchorAlum 11-15-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1743996)
true, but if i were republican, and i watched her constantly go after him and degrade his character, it would make me wonder if you were lying before to us...because why would she really want to go help someone who "pals around with terrorists"?? dont get me wrong, i would say the same thing of Obama if he bad-mouthed McCain, and i held Hilary to the same standards when she was running her mouth about Obama...

Apparently that could be a higher standard than Obama is holding Hillary to...if reports that he is considering her for Secretary of State are true.
I think it would be helpful to have everyone move on here and get down to the serious and substantive issues facing our President-elect. He needs the support and best wishes of all Americans and I choose to believe that Palin made her remarks in that spirit. Anything else is negative energy on my part.

Many things are said in a campaign, and things Gov. Palin said regarding William Ayers weren't without some basis in fact. I am of that era when Bill Ayers and his compatriots were blowing things up - uh, just buildings, eh? I don't think so. I wonder what Mr. Ayers would say if someone just took radical exception to his positions here and now and just "blew up a building" - his house, for example? Sort of like the residence of the judge?

AnchorAlum 11-15-2008 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scbelle (Post 1744558)
I realize the thread went in a different direction and as usual, I'm late to the party, but if I were a Rebublican, I'd be pissed at the statement she made that I bolded. Exactly what gave her the authority to start speaking for other Republican leaders??? She's not the face of the Republican party... yet.

And I'm with nittany... I can't wait for 2012 and see Crist and Jindal, Barbour and Romney wipe the floor with she-who-will-not-be-named.

Er, ixnay on Charlie Crist and Romney.

Charlie will NOT be a contender. Romney won't either because he is a Mormon and that was already apparently too much for some ultra evangelicals and now with Prop 8 hanging on the Mormon Church in Cali, they won't forgive OR forget, so he's between the proverbial rock and hard place.

I am becoming more and more of a Jindal fan everyday.

But whether or not Gov. Palin sticks, no one will wipe the floor with her. I find it so amusing and amazing that she engenders so much vitriol from the left.
She who will not be named is apparently also she who must be destroyed. Why is that? Is it because she is also one who must not frighten the left anymore?

Just asking. She's not my number one, but it is an interesting phenomenon.

AOII_LB93 11-15-2008 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LightBulb (Post 1744550)
Nothin wrong with that... all citizens have the right to vote. Additionally, the USA has no official language.


While the US has no official language, something I understand as an educator and an intelligent citizen, it doesn't mean that the VAST majority of the population shouldn't speak and read English. If I moved to pretty much any other country where English wasn't the main language and became a citizen, there would be language requirements to do so. If I wanted to vote in those countries they wouldn't be providing me with a ballot in my own language. I'm a foreign language educator, and while I have no problem with people speaking and reading other languages English should be the national language. What is wrong with this? French is the official language of France, German is the official language of Germany, English and French are the official languages of Canada. What's the problem?

I'm entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is that people should be able to read the ballot in English if they are to vote in the USA.


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