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VAgirl18 11-11-2008 06:21 PM

Death of a Pet
 
Early this morning, our family dog passed away in my mom's arms. He was 14 and just like another family member. My mom hasn't stopped crying and my dad is pretty choked up too.

My dad wanted to go get another Pomeranian right away, but I told him that it was way too soon, especially when Scruffy had just died this morning. When my mom called this morning she asked me to never get a dog or a cat so that I don't have to go through this. I've been advised from others that getting another pet may be one of the only ways to fill the void. I think that my dad and I are going to get her a white, fluffy dog like she wanted a few years ago.

My questions are... is Christmas a long enough time to grieve? Should we even bring this dog in as a surprise or consult my mom who will probably initially say no, but be accepting later?

Thanks for all of your help in advance. My mom has been blaming herself for all of this and it was in no way her fault at all. It was just his time to go.

KSUViolet06 11-11-2008 06:53 PM

The grief process is different for everyone, so we can't really tell you if Christmas will be long enough for her. Losing a long time pet can be the same as losing a child or other human family member for some.

This is just me, but I would not bring in another dog without talking to her first. I would hate to surprise her with a dog that she isn't ready for and have her be upset (or feel like she's being pushed to "get over it").


darling1 11-11-2008 07:19 PM

i am so sorry for your loss. i lost my cat 2 years ago and it still saddens me when i think about her.

i think this decision should be a joint one. everyone grieves differently. i think its wonderful that you want to do something around christmas. i would wait until after new years and if she starts to talk more about getting a new pet then maybe you can do something then.

good luck!

ps. shelter pets are the best :D.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1743483)
Early this morning, our family dog passed away in my mom's arms. He was 14 and just like another family member. My mom hasn't stopped crying and my dad is pretty choked up too.

My dad wanted to go get another Pomeranian right away, but I told him that it was way too soon, especially when Scruffy had just died this morning. When my mom called this morning she asked me to never get a dog or a cat so that I don't have to go through this. I've been advised from others that getting another pet may be one of the only ways to fill the void. I think that my dad and I are going to get her a white, fluffy dog like she wanted a few years ago.

My questions are... is Christmas a long enough time to grieve? Should we even bring this dog in as a surprise or consult my mom who will probably initially say no, but be accepting later?

Thanks for all of your help in advance. My mom has been blaming herself for all of this and it was in no way her fault at all. It was just his time to go.


texas*princess 11-11-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1743499)
The grief process is different for everyone, so we can't really tell you if Christmas will be long enough for her. Losing a long time pet can be the same as losing a child or other human family member for some.

This is just me, but I would not bring in another dog without talking to her first. I would hate to surprise her with a dog that she isn't ready for and have her be upset (or feel like she's being pushed to "get over it").


Agreed that the decision should be a joint one.

My grandmother has had 2 dogs, both of which eventually passed away due to old age. Whenever I fly home with my dog she says she likes my dog and would like a smaller dog, but also says she will never get another one because the grief was just too much for her.

I really hope your mother is not blaming herself for the death of the dog... 14 years is a very long time and about the average for smaller breeds. The dog that passed away was probably just old :(

So sorry for your family's loss.

RU OX Alum 11-11-2008 08:56 PM

I'm sorry your dog died.

I think that other puppy/dog would make a great christmas present.

epchick 11-11-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1743483)
My questions are... is Christmas a long enough time to grieve? Should we even bring this dog in as a surprise or consult my mom who will probably initially say no, but be accepting later?

Like everyone says, everyone's grieving process is different. I lost my dog (a french poodle named Nugget) after having him for almost 13 years.

Nugget passed away Sept. 28, 2003 (i'll always remember that date) and it took me until January of 2006 before I could even THINK to have another dog.


I disagree with other though about consulting your mom. I think that when you lose a close pet like that you might think you are ready when you aren't & visa versa. When I got my chihuahua, he was a Christmas present. I definitely didn't want him, but he grew on me. The thing is you don't want to cut the grieving process short. I say you should wait until you see your mom is feeling better about the "dog issue."

MysticCat 11-11-2008 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1743499)
This is just me, but I would not bring in another dog without talking to her first. I would hate to surprise her with a dog that she isn't ready for and have her be upset (or feel like she's being pushed to "get over it").

VA girl, my sympathies to your family. I've been the one to hold the dog while she died, and it was not easy.

Add me to the list of those who agree with the above. (And add me to the list of those who really don't like the idea of dogs as "surprise" presents.) The person who will be responsible for the dog should be the one who decides when and what dog. (BTW, it took 2 1/2 years, although part of that had to do with the kids being ready for the responsibility.)

BuckeyeTriDelta 11-11-2008 10:10 PM

I am so sorry for your loss.

Jill1228 11-11-2008 10:49 PM

I am sorry for your loss! :(
Definitely talk to your mom first.

honeychile 11-12-2008 12:35 AM

((((((((((((((((VAgirl18)))))))))))))))

Please accept my sincere sympathy; it truly is a member of your family who passed away. I pray that your mother finds peace and quits blaming herself.

I don't even want to admit how long it took me between pets! They truly are "furkids" to me. I don't know how your mother would react, but rather than possibly ruining Christmas, it might be nice to get in touch with a shelter or breeder, and have her see the dog as he or she is, rather than as a replacement. The pup might wrap her around his paw very quickly, or it might not. If they fall in love with each other, then make your move. Many shelters will let you "try on" a dog nowdays. I can recommend a great organization that rescues "fluffy white dogs", and there are a lot of puppies right now. PM me if you'd like to know more about it.

If you have a doggie daycare center in your area, you could also ask them to recommend breeders (if you want a specific breed), or shelters. Dogtopia in the DC Metro area is great for that.

Whatever you decide, good luck!

em_adpi 11-12-2008 12:58 AM

VA Girl,

I just went through this! My cat died about a month ago, but the story that really pertains to you would be about my dog.

Last year I got the call during RECRUITMENT (no less) that my dog had to be put to sleep. Molly had been a part of our family for nearly 15 years and we all knew her time was coming, but I thought I'd see her one more time.

My sister was the only one left at home and she'd been the closest to Molly, having only been a toddler when we got the dog. She was the one who suggested a few days later that we get another dog. Within a month, my parents had a new puppy in the house. While we loved Molly, I think Scout kinda helped my sister heal.

Pets are family and they can never be replaced in your heart... but it doesn't mean your heart doesn't have room to love another animal. :) In our case, both our new dogs (yes, my parents got Scout a friend by last Christmas) helped us heal from losing Molly and we saved them from two local shelters.

I guess I understand that it is important to have time to grieve, but new animals have lots of love to share to help 'fill the void'. For me, I was pretty upset about Molly and getting a new dog was a bit painful until I got to meet Scout. I still love and miss Molly, but having two(!) dogs has helped my family through the pain.

You and your family are in my prayers as you grieve for your dog. Good luck!

Scandia 11-12-2008 07:24 AM

I'm sorry to hear about your pet passing.

Two months may be enough for some people, but not for others. It depends on the individual.

SydneyK 11-12-2008 09:38 AM

It's always so hard to lose a pet. I'm so very sorry for your loss.

I echo the advice that many have already given: your mom really should be involved in determining whether or not to get another dog.

Some friends of my parents went through a similar situation several years ago. When they lost their dog of 16 years, they both agreed that although they wanted another pet, they didn't want to feel like they were betraying Moses by getting another one so soon. They called their local service dog organization to see if they had any dogs that needed temporary homes. They discovered that that organization looks to citizens to help with service-dog-to-be puppy raising! So, they have been raising service puppies for the past several years, and couldn't be happier. The point of all that rambling: there are definitely ways to fill the void caused by a lost pet. Maybe your mom could look into some other possibilities before committing to the responsibilities (and emotional investment) of getting another dog.

nikki1920 11-12-2008 10:28 AM

I'm so sorry for your loss.

I'm all for a new friend! Especially one from a shelter. :0)

Zephyrus 11-12-2008 02:14 PM

This has got to be hard. I've never lost my own dog, but I did see a dog killed. Apparently it got hit by a car. The lady that hit the dog, pulled over to the side, while I was standing across the street when it happened. I took the dog to an animal hostpital, but by the time I got to the hostpital the dog had passed. It wasn't even my dog, and that blew me away. Just watching the way it was breathing trying to stay alive hurt...bad. I can't even imagine how your family must feel.

Sorry to hear about your loss though.

WVU alpha phi 11-12-2008 02:51 PM

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. My dog Pepper died 3 years ago when he was 16, and I still get choked up talking about him. I completely understand and agree that it is like losing a family member. I actually took off work the following day because I was so upset.

My sister wanted to get another dog fairly quickly, but I was opposed to the idea. I didn't like the idea of "replacing" Pepper so soon. I think we got our next dog, Bella, about 2 months after Pepper died. It was so lonely not having a dog when you're used to coming home to one. It was a family decision and we all went to the shelter together to pick out a new dog. Pepper is buried in our backyard with some flowers and a little doggie tombstone, and when I'm home I still go out there and talk to him (it sounds ridiculous I know).

Bella helped the grieving process but each person and family is different. I'd definitely check with your mom before bringing a new pet into the family.

VAgirl18 11-12-2008 02:56 PM

Thank you all for your advice.

I think that this may have been a blessing in disguise for the family. My mom also takes care of her mother with dementia while working a full time job, so not having to worry about a diabetic dog anymore is a relief.

I emailed my Dad and told him that we should definitely wait and see how she feels later on. My mom always gets in a "mood" and we know what she wants next by what she's browsing the internet for at night....i.e.: a new car, a lakehouse... maybe a dog will be on her list sooner than we think.

Scruffy is now in the freezer at the vet, awaiting the arrival of his casket that will be buried in my parents' backyard. As inappropriate as this may sound, I'm glad he has a lot of fur to keep him warm. :D

cheerfulgreek 11-12-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1743483)
Early this morning, our family dog passed away in my mom's arms. He was 14 and just like another family member. My mom hasn't stopped crying and my dad is pretty choked up too.

My dad wanted to go get another Pomeranian right away, but I told him that it was way too soon, especially when Scruffy had just died this morning. When my mom called this morning she asked me to never get a dog or a cat so that I don't have to go through this. I've been advised from others that getting another pet may be one of the only ways to fill the void. I think that my dad and I are going to get her a white, fluffy dog like she wanted a few years ago.

My questions are... is Christmas a long enough time to grieve? Should we even bring this dog in as a surprise or consult my mom who will probably initially say no, but be accepting later?

Thanks for all of your help in advance. My mom has been blaming herself for all of this and it was in no way her fault at all. It was just his time to go.

VA18girl, I'm sorry about your loss. I think Christmas would be the perfect time to get her a new puppy. No matter what, she's always going to remember that dog, but getting her a new one will help the healing process much faster. I think Christmas is perfect.

Please keep us informed.

christiangirl 11-13-2008 12:45 AM

It's different for everyone. I got my dog as a puppy--she was my present for my 10th birthday. :) She was my very best friend in the whole world and she lasted a long time. We pretty much grew up together. Well, she passed in my arms, too. :( It was horrible trying to say good-bye and I still miss her. That was two years ago and as much as I'd love another dog, even several dogs and talk about it constanty...not yet. Aside from being in an apartment where I can't have pets, I honestly just don't think I'm ready for another dog. Maybe in another year or so. My cousin's family dog died about 5 years ago and my aunt still isn't ready for another dog. Some people just take longer. I would say the three of you should decide together and you're right to wait until your mom lets you know when she's ready.

ETA:
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Scruffy is now in the freezer at the vet, awaiting the arrival of his casket that will be buried in my parents' backyard. As inappropriate as this may sound, I'm glad he has a lot of fur to keep him warm. :D
You are so terrible! :p I'm one to talk. I had my dog cremated and had her ashes spread in a Zen garden in a pet cemetery up north. Yes, I know, bourgeois Californians and their dogs....

SthrnZeta 11-13-2008 03:14 AM

As many of you may know, I'm an emergency vet tech so I see a lot of death at my job. Grieving is different for everyone, I've seen people get a new pet right away and that really helps them. Then again, there are those who do this and then regret it because they constantly compare the new and the old pets. And then there are those who vow never to get another pet again. I think that final option is a bit overboard - you wouldn't not make new friends for fear of losing them would you? Losing a pet is part of the friendship that you have with them - you have to know that you will oneday say goodbye to them and that's the risk you take when deciding to open your heart to a pet. I sincerely believe in opening up your heart again, but only when you're ready. Cheesy but true.

The freezer comment was so wrong :P

As for the bourgeois Californians, I understand it. I plan to cremate both of my pets and may even keep the ashes in pretty urns, who knows.

honeychile 11-13-2008 01:46 PM

Think I can interest you in a Kitten?
 
This is Luke - a 5-month old neutered male, current with all of his shots, well socialized Siamese mix, and free to a GOOD home. We'd keep him ourselves, but we're all allergic:

Being held - check out those azure blue eyes!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...le29/Luke1.jpg

Luke posing at our front door. Note the "Ask not for whom the dog barks, he barks for thee" doormat:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...le29/Luke2.jpg


Anybody interested? PM me, as he's currently residing in the Feline Suite of Chez Honeychile, and the other residents can't stop sneezing!

VAgirl18 11-13-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1744215)
This is Luke - a 5-month old neutered male, current with all of his shots, well socialized Siamese mix, and free to a GOOD home. We'd keep him ourselves, but we're all alleric:

Being held - check out those azure blue eyes!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...le29/Luke1.jpg

Luke posing at our front door. Note the "Ask not for whom the dog barks, he barks for thee" doormat:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...le29/Luke2.jpg


Anybody interested? PM me, as he's currently residing in the Feline Suite of Chez Honeychile, and the other residents can't stop sneezing!

Oh, Honey! Only if my mom actually liked cats. We had one before Scruffy and she decided that after having a dog, cats were worthless. :mad:

PeppyGPhiB 11-13-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1743757)
It's always so hard to lose a pet. I'm so very sorry for your loss.

I echo the advice that many have already given: your mom really should be involved in determining whether or not to get another dog.

Some friends of my parents went through a similar situation several years ago. When they lost their dog of 16 years, they both agreed that although they wanted another pet, they didn't want to feel like they were betraying Moses by getting another one so soon. They called their local service dog organization to see if they had any dogs that needed temporary homes. They discovered that that organization looks to citizens to help with service-dog-to-be puppy raising! So, they have been raising service puppies for the past several years, and couldn't be happier. The point of all that rambling: there are definitely ways to fill the void caused by a lost pet. Maybe your mom could look into some other possibilities before committing to the responsibilities (and emotional investment) of getting another dog.


My mom and I have co-raised three puppies for Canine Companions for Independence. It's a great experience, though I have to warn that it is VERY hard to give them up after nearly two years...that is quite a sad day for everyone. But if you're as "lucky" as us, 66% of them will flunk out and then come to live with you (your choice)! That's how I got my sassy-pants golden retriever Kirin.

To the OP: I wouldn't spring a dog on your mom. As much as that is what your dad wants (though it sounds like he doesn't want to wait til xmas!), it may not be what your mom wants. I would just leave it be, and I bet one day she'll decide on her own that she wants another dog. And it may not be a Pom that she wants...she may decide she wants a pug, or a german shephard, or some other dog. It's best that you let her arrive at that point without being pushed.

My family is preparing ourselves for putting down our 16-year-old yellow lab, who is just as happy as ever but is obviously starting to experience some pain. My mom has decided that she is going to hold off on getting another dog for a while, as much as we are a dog-lovin family.

SthrnZeta 11-13-2008 05:26 PM

Wow, Peppy, 16 year old lab! You guys definitely did something right, that's a ripe old age for that breed! It's definitely hard to make that choice though and I don't look forward to having to do that one day for my little Drill Sergeant.

On the adoption front, we have a young Boston Terrier puppy at the clinic we just finished treating for parvo and is doing great. She's so adorable! Any takers?


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