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LXAGuy08 11-04-2008 03:01 PM

Southern Proper and Vineyard Vines
 
Any opinions on these brands?

MysticCat 11-04-2008 03:22 PM

So a search on Vineyard Vines or Southern Proper and you'll find lots of opinions. ;)

Kevin 11-04-2008 03:39 PM

From what I gather they're two relatively new companies who made up some logos, marked their products way the eff up, called themselves "southern" and "elite," and I guess are acceptable to the social-climbers in the South who either come from money or want to spend most of their net worth pretending they come from money.

RU OX Alum 11-04-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1740011)
From what I gather they're two relatively new companies who made up some logos, marked their products way the eff up, called themselves "southern" and "elite," and I guess are acceptable to the social-climbers in the South who either come from money or want to spend most of their net worth pretending they come from money.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

Elephant Walk 11-04-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1740011)
From what I gather they're two relatively new companies who made up some logos, marked their products way the eff up, called themselves "southern" and "elite," and I guess are acceptable to the social-climbers in the South who either come from money or want to spend most of their net worth pretending they come from money.

So you mean the typical Lambda Chi?

Trying too hard is in their modus operandi. Pretty sure it's in the ritual.

MysticCat 11-04-2008 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1740011)
From what I gather they're two relatively new companies who made up some logos, marked their products way the eff up, called themselves "southern" and "elite," and I guess are acceptable to the social-climbers in the South who either come from money or want to spend most of their net worth pretending they come from money.

LOL. Co-sign.

Senusret I 11-04-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1740020)
So you mean the typical Lambda Chi?

Trying too hard is in their modus operandi. Pretty sure it's in the ritual.

Damn!

srmom 11-04-2008 04:38 PM

Actually Vinyard Vines is from Martha's Vinyard and has been around in the north for over a decade. I first ran into vinyard vines stuff in Annapolis, MD. before I ever saw it in the south.

Just fyi - no biggie.

Now Southern Proper ???

jmuaphi10 11-04-2008 04:46 PM

my chapter used Vineyard Vines and we absolutely LOVE them!!!! The fabric design was originally made/designed by our chapter in Spring 07 and our newest girls are still ordering bags now. They are so cute and fun! I definitely recommend them!

Elephant Walk 11-04-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1740040)
Actually Vinyard Vines is from Martha's Vinyard and has been around in the north for over a decade. I first ran into vinyard vines stuff in Annapolis, MD. before I ever saw it in the south.

Just fyi - no biggie.

Now Southern Proper ???

www.southernproper.com

They went overboard with the "Frat Hat"

LegallyBrunette 11-04-2008 06:10 PM

I think the text writers for that website were heavily inspired by the J.Peterman storyline in Seinfeld (and the even maybe the real J.Peterman ;))


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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1740044)
www.southernproper.com

They went overboard with the "Frat Hat"


jessica.lanelle 11-04-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1740044)
www.southernproper.com

They went overboard with the "Frat Hat"

LOL they have a bow tie with a catfish on it.

CrackerBarrel 11-04-2008 06:33 PM

I like both brands ties. But that's the only thing SoPro makes that I'll wear. I have a few VV oxfords and a pair of shorts that I am happy with, but on the shorts I'm not sure the price difference between them and a comparable brand are worth it.

VandalSquirrel 11-04-2008 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1740040)
Actually Vinyard Vines is from Martha's Vinyard and has been around in the north for over a decade. I first ran into vinyard vines stuff in Annapolis, MD. before I ever saw it in the south.

Just fyi - no biggie.

Now Southern Proper ???

I live out west, but I thought anything below the Mason Dixon line was technically "The South" which would include Annapolis, Maryland. Am I wrong?

fallen-angel 11-04-2008 10:28 PM

Hey Vandal, I'm from the South myself and I figured I'd chime in. For some reason that I have never understood, most people here don't pay attention to the Mason Dixon line. Anything above Virginia/WV is the North.

KSUViolet06 11-04-2008 10:33 PM

I actually rather like VV (which is odd because most people in Ohio are not familiar with it). I have family in GA and they love the stuff so I grew to like it a lot.

I've heard of Southern Proper, but only because my friends at SEC schools swear by it. I know that they mainly only make men's clothing, but I LOVE their purple skull ladies' headband.

I also find their "Belles for Beaus" program interesting:

http://www.southernproper.com/belles_for_beaus.html


magichat 11-04-2008 11:08 PM

VV bowties tie very well

Elephant Walk 11-04-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel (Post 1740105)
I like both brands ties. But that's the only thing SoPro makes that I'll wear. I have a few VV oxfords and a pair of shorts that I am happy with, but on the shorts I'm not sure the price difference between them and a comparable brand are worth it.

My same feelings.

KSigkid 11-04-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom (Post 1740040)
Actually Vinyard Vines is from Martha's Vinyard and has been around in the north for over a decade.

Yeah, Vineyard Vines has been around for quite a while. I always thought it was funny that such an established New England company has become connected with Southern fashion.

jessica.lanelle 11-04-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1740294)
I actually rather like VV (which is odd because most people in Ohio are not familiar with it). I have family in GA and they love the stuff so I grew to like it a lot.

I've heard of Southern Proper, but only because my friends at SEC schools swear by it. I know that they mainly only make men's clothing, but I LOVE their purple skull ladies' headband.

I also find their "Belles for Beaus" program interesting:

http://www.southernproper.com/belles_for_beaus.html


Yes... I saw the headband and that is pretty cute!

Nanners52674 11-05-2008 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1740351)
Yeah, Vineyard Vines has been around for quite a while. I always thought it was funny that such an established New England company has become connected with Southern fashion.

Co-Sign. I remember when i was much younger and used to see Vineyard Vines on Nantucket, didn't think much of it went home one winter came back next summer and it was one of the biggest things around. No idea how it became synonymous with southern fashion :confused:

Elephant Walk 11-05-2008 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nanners52674 (Post 1740528)
Co-Sign. I remember when i was much younger and used to see Vineyard Vines on Nantucket, didn't think much of it went home one winter came back next summer and it was one of the biggest things around. No idea how it became synonymous with southern fashion :confused:

Fishing, Gulf Coast living, etc...

It makes quite a bit of sense, honestly.

KSigkid 11-05-2008 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nanners52674 (Post 1740528)
Co-Sign. I remember when i was much younger and used to see Vineyard Vines on Nantucket, didn't think much of it went home one winter came back next summer and it was one of the biggest things around. No idea how it became synonymous with southern fashion :confused:

Honestly - I remember going to the Vineyard and seeing people wearing it all over the place. Plus, I used to see it all around Boston. Then, I saw on here that it was a Southern fashion favorite. Not judging at all, just thought it was interesting it had spread across the country.

srmom 11-05-2008 11:23 AM

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I live out west, but I thought anything below the Mason Dixon line was technically "The South" which would include Annapolis, Maryland. Am I wrong?
Annapolis may be below the Mason Dixon, but trust me - any place that would have a college like St. Johns is not southern. ;)

Also, take a look at the voting patterns of the country, generally, if it's blue, it's not southern (not counting Florida which is full of retired yankees and foriegners).


JK!! :) But, having spent a LOT of time in Annapolis, including during this election cycle - the culture and climate are definitely not "southern".

AOII_LB93 11-05-2008 08:33 PM

People still wear bowties? The only people I ever saw wearing them were the Nation of Islam guys on campus back in the day, or guys at prom/in weddings. I'm not a fan, if my husband wore one I'd laugh at him.

CrackerBarrel 11-05-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1740947)
People still wear bowties? The only people I ever saw wearing them were the Nation of Islam guys on campus back in the day, or guys at prom/in weddings. I'm not a fan, if my husband wore one I'd laugh at him.

I'll occasionally wear one in the summer or to a fraternity function. It takes the right personality and overall image to manage to pull one off though. You can either look really good or like a complete ass/nerd in one.

magichat 11-05-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1740947)
People still wear bowties? The only people I ever saw wearing them were the Nation of Islam guys on campus back in the day, or guys at prom/in weddings. I'm not a fan, if my husband wore one I'd laugh at him.

I wear them pretty frequently. I mostly wear them to social functions and the like. I think a bowtie s pretty hard to pull off in most professional settings. However, this summer I will be working for a judge so I think that I may be able to pull it off in that setting. Definitely not a VV one though.

Elephant Walk 11-05-2008 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1740947)
People still wear bowties? The only people I ever saw wearing them were the Nation of Islam guys on campus back in the day, or guys at prom/in weddings. I'm not a fan, if my husband wore one I'd laugh at him.

I wear 'em.

SWTXBelle 11-05-2008 10:26 PM

Bowties
 
It's rather like a woman wearing a hat - with the right attitude it is very compelling. But you do have to have self-confidence and certain panache.

I think they are sexy.;) 'specially when you stand behind your guy and tie it for him.

MysticCat 11-06-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII_LB93 (Post 1740947)
People still wear bowties? The only people I ever saw wearing them were the Nation of Islam guys on campus back in the day, or guys at prom/in weddings. I'm not a fan, if my husband wore one I'd laugh at him.

Yes. I wouldn't say everyone wears them around here, but they're not uncommon. I almost always wear them to court.

And CB and SWTXBelle are right -- not everyone can wear them. It takes a certain body type and a certain attitude. (One lawyer friend of mine says they show a great deal of self-confidence -- you don't feel the need to have an arrow pointing out certain attributes 'cause you know everyone just knows. :cool:)

And SWTXBelle, my wife agrees with you. ;)

Elephant Walk 11-06-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1740999)
It's rather like a woman wearing a hat - with the right attitude it is very compelling. But you do have to have self-confidence and certain panache.

I think they are sexy.;) 'specially when you stand behind your guy and tie it for him.

How you doin?

Kevin 11-06-2008 02:16 PM

For what it's worth, here in Oklahoma, at least downtown and especially around the courthouse, there are a lot of bow ties being worn. They're very much in fashion down here for whatever reason.

nittanyalum 11-06-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1741225)
How you doin?

LOL.

I can't resist posting this section from the wikipedia page about bowties (I was going to just post a snarky reply to Kevin's last statement like "Because you all still think it's the 1940s down there?" and run, but there was too much I liked in this description instead ;) :)):
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Stereotypes of bow tie wearers
Main article: list of bow tie wearers
“To its devotees the bow tie suggests iconoclasm of an Old World sort, a fusty adherence to a contrarian point of view. The bow tie hints at intellectualism, real or feigned, and sometimes suggests technical acumen, perhaps because it is so hard to tie. Bow ties are worn by magicians, country doctors, lawyers and professors and by people hoping to look like the above. But perhaps most of all, wearing a bow tie is a way of broadcasting an aggressive lack of concern for what other people think.”
—Warren St John, The New York Times[1]


Bow ties tend to be associated with particular professions, such as architects, attorneys,[2] university professors, and politicians.
Pediatricians frequently wear bow ties. Infants can't grab them, and they don't get in places where they would be soiled.

In American culture, bow ties tend to be associated with either New England idyllic preppy culture or the culture of the white aristocratic South.[citation needed]

Bow ties are commonly seen in popular culture as items of sophistication, such as those stereotypically worn by professors in movies and fictional spy characters such as James Bond. However, they have also been adopted into the "uniform" of clowns and male strippers, and such associations have lent bow ties a less serious image.[citation needed] Therefore, the "bow tie" presents somewhat of an oxymoron or paradox to anyone trying to define a particular style to be attached to the bow tie.[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_tie

KSigkid 11-06-2008 02:59 PM

I've seen a few people wearing bowties regularly - more so in Boston than in CT, and the majority are attorneys.

MysticCat 11-06-2008 03:08 PM

One advantage of bow ties is that you don't spill food or drink on them.

And Nittany, contrary to the Wiki article to which you kindly linked (and which provided some good chickles) bow ties are not hard to tie -- at least not if you're intelligent and sophisticated enough to wear one to begin with. ;)

RU OX Alum 11-06-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1741272)
One advantage of bow ties is that you don't spill food or drink on them.

And Nittany, contrary to the Wiki article to which you kindly linked (and which provided some good chickles) bow ties are not hard to tie -- at least not if you're intelligent and sophisticated enough to wear one to begin with. ;)

yeah, but then it would spill on your shirt/jacket

SWTXBelle 11-06-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1741272)
One advantage of bow ties is that you don't spill food or drink on them.

And Nittany, contrary to the Wiki article to which you kindly linked (and which provided some good chickles) bow ties are not hard to tie -- at least not if you're intelligent and sophisticated enough to wear one to begin with. ;)

Or have a clever, nimble-fingered girl friend. :cool:

And EW - I'm fine. Truly fine. ;)

AOII Angel 11-06-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1741263)
LOL.
Bow ties tend to be associated with particular professions, such as architects, attorneys,[2] university professors, and politicians.
Pediatricians frequently wear bow ties. Infants can't grab them, and they don't get in places where they would be soiled.[/URL]

There are lots of doctors (not just pediatricians) who wear bowties. My husband has 4 bowties, though he rarely wears them because he has to look up how to tie them everytime!

MysticCat 11-06-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1741274)
yeah, but then it would spill on your shirt/jacket

You'd spill on your shirt, which is not nearly as hard or expensive to clean as a tie is.

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1741278)
There are lots of doctors (not just pediatricians) who wear bowties. My husband has 4 bowties, though he rarely wears them because he has to look up how to tie them everytime!

Send him to this website or order this DVD from BeauTies Ltd.

It's really not hard once you get the hang of it.

DrPhil 11-06-2008 03:36 PM

I love bowties.


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