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Tippiechick 10-07-2008 08:34 PM

Apparantly speaking the truth is once again NOT allowed in RUSH threads...
 
I find it very odd that the rush forum is going down the path of HPRL...

Someone pursues TWO groups to AI into. Finally, one accepts her. But, GOD FORBID someone actually talk about the sorority shopping process.

Get over yourself, anal rush mod.

ETA-- I EXPECT to know what was so wrong with my post that it was deleted without so much as a pm... KTX.

Unregistered- 10-07-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728372)
I find it very odd that the rush forum is going down the path of HPRL...

Someone pursues TWO groups to AI into. Finally, one accepts her. But, GOD FORBID someone actually talk about the sorority shopping process.

Get over yourself, anal rush mod.

ETA-- I EXPECT to know what was so wrong with my post that it was deleted without so much as a pm... KTX.

Tip, it's the freaking RUSH forum. You can get away with more in China.

Sorority shoppers have been very smart lately and have only been posting when they've "found their home". "Found their home" = "Found a poor, unsuspecting sorority to take them in."

ZTAMich 10-07-2008 08:58 PM

Some people just like their forum & their real life to look 100% perfect. We know the truth....LAME.

epchick 10-07-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1728376)
Tip, it's the freaking RUSH forum. You can get away with more in China.

I agree!! Did anyone ever own up to who deleted LL's post?

Tippie, i doubt anyone will give you a reason.

Tippiechick 10-07-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1728385)
I agree!! Did anyone ever own up to who deleted LL's post?

Tippie, i doubt anyone will give you a reason.

I know she won't. But, I have to hope that one day the deleter will have the ova to admit it and defend it.

agzg 10-07-2008 10:52 PM

God I wish I had subscribed to that thread instead of just reading the new posts - I would have had your response in my inbox.

christiangirl 10-08-2008 12:02 AM

HPRL? AI? Shopping process? Help me out!

Tippiechick 10-08-2008 12:45 AM

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=72451

Speaks for itself. Started out while an undergrad in 2005, choosing NOT to rush b/c of being married. Decided to AI while still in school. (Yes, I remember the thread when it was brand new...) Interested in 2 sororities. Contacted two sororities. Waited, graduated, and now finally found a "home" (gag)...

I dared to speak a slight against AI.

It is not the wave of the future. It IS a way for some good, SELECT women to become productive members of GLOs through an honor bestowed upon them by a group. It should not be considered an alternative pathway to membership.

Leslie Anne 10-08-2008 12:45 AM

I thought it would have been obvious why the post was deleted.

I'm no fan of sorority shopping either but once someone has been accepted into a sisterhood and has been initiated, the snarky comments are no longer about the AI but the NPC that initiated her. Someone from DPhiE met with her, their IHQ reviewed her and they saw fit to welcome her. That's their business.

When you continued bashing beyond initiation you were, in effect, bashing DPhiE and doubting their good judgement. It was offensive, so it was deleted.

Pretty simple stuff.

Tippiechick 10-08-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1728491)
I thought it would have been obvious why the post was deleted.

I'm no fan of sorority shopping either but once someone has been accepted into a sisterhood and has been initiated, the snarky comments are no longer about the AI but the NPC that initiated her. Someone from DPhiE met with her, their IHQ reviewed her and they saw fit to welcome her. That's their business.

When you continued bashing beyond initiation you were, in effect, bashing DPhiE and doubting their good judgement. It was offensive, so it was deleted.

Pretty simple stuff.

Well, by that standard, how dare we speak negatively of ANY member of a group? :rolleyes: Why don't you go over to HRPL? They hold to this mentality.

Leslie Anne 10-08-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728496)
Well, by that standard, how dare we speak negatively of ANY member of a group? :rolleyes:

I don't see that as the same thing at all. It hadn't even been 24 hours since her initiation. DPhiE had just that day said by their actions that she met their criteria for sisterhood. But that isn't good enough for you. Have you met the poster? Yes, she sorority shopped. I'm not condoning it but there must have been more to her that appealed to DPhiE.

I just don't get why this is so hard to understand. I mean, even the worst of the PNM brats don't get bashed once an NPC has given them a bid.

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728496)
Why don't you go over to HRPL? They hold to this mentality.

No thanks. I've seen their mentality. I may be a proponent of being a little less abrasive, especially to new posters, but those people are off their nut.

Tippiechick 10-08-2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1728506)
I don't see that as the same thing at all. It hadn't even been 24 hours since her initiation. DPhiE had just that day said by their actions that she met their criteria for sisterhood. But that isn't good enough for you. Have you met the poster? Yes, she sorority shopped. I'm not condoning it but there must have been more to her that appealed to DPhiE.

I just don't get why this is so hard to understand. I mean, even the worst of the PNM brats don't get bashed once an NPC has given them a bid.


No thanks. I've seen their mentality. I may be a proponent of being a little less abrasive, especially to new posters, but those people are off their nut.

Yeah, last time I checked, I am NOT a member of DPhiE. I can hold and express whatever opinion I have of their choice. Hell, we all know I have expressed my opinion on AI when it comes to MY sorority. I don't have to "clear" my thoughts with you, anyone else, or any IO.

Just because someone becomes a member of the greek community does not make them off-limits for comments, especially when they have sought membership in such a public way.

And, this girl's been posting for over three years. She's not a newbie. She's seen what has gone down on here. She was around during the heyday of sorority shopping at its worst... She's not off-limits just because she finally joined a group.

Leslie Anne 10-08-2008 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728508)
Yeah, last time I checked, I am NOT a member of DPhiE.

Okay. :confused:
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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728508)
I can hold and express whatever opinion I have of their choice.

Yes, you can! :)
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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728508)
Hell, we all know I have expressed my opinion on AI when it comes to MY sorority.

You go, girl!
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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728508)
I don't have to "clear" my thoughts with you, anyone else, or any IO.

I never said you did. You asked why your post was deleted and I gave you my opinion in return. No biggie.

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728508)
Just because someone becomes a member of the greek community does not make them off-limits for comments, especially when they have sought membership in such a public way.

Yes, I got that from your first post.

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728508)
And, this girl's been posting for over three years. She's not a newbie. She's seen what has gone down on here. She was around during the heyday of sorority shopping at its worst... She's not off-limits just because she finally joined a group.

I'll take your word for that. I don't pay that much attention to the AI forum.

Anything else?

Tippiechick 10-08-2008 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1728509)

Anything else?

Yes, I would like an explanation from the person who deleted the post. That is what the thread was about.

I am glad you agree with me.;)

christiangirl 10-08-2008 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728489)
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=72451
It is not the wave of the future. It IS a way for some good, SELECT women to become productive members of GLOs through an honor bestowed upon them by a group. It should not be considered an alternative pathway to membership.

Soooo....okay, just trying to keep up. Do you feel that way just in NPC or in all GLOs? What about in NPHC sororities where it's not the standard but still "normal" to consider that as an alternative?

33girl 10-08-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1728566)
Soooo....okay, just trying to keep up. Do you feel that way just in NPC or in all GLOs? What about in NPHC sororities where it's not the standard but still "normal" to consider that as an alternative?

NPC's and NPHC's forms of membership selection are radically different even at the collegiate level. Ergo, you can't really compare them in any way.

christiangirl 10-08-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1728585)
NPC's and NPHC's forms of membership selection are radically different even at the collegiate level. Ergo, you can't really compare them in any way.

I know. That's why, when I saw that Tippie said "all GLOs," I was taken aback. I wanted to see if she acknowledges there's difference in how it's done. I like Tippie's opinions, they make for fun threads. ;)

KSig RC 10-08-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1728593)
I know. That's why, when I saw that Tippie said "all GLOs," I was taken aback.

She didn't say "all GLOs" - she said "GLOs."

If you're going to pick nits . . . I mean . . .

Oh, also:

NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE RUSH FORUM KLFAJSDFKLAJDFLAJFKL:D WOOOOOOW

christiangirl 10-08-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1728611)
She didn't say "all GLOs" - she said "GLOs."

Thank you. The difference was so big, I don't see how I missed it. :rolleyes:

PenguinTrax 10-08-2008 08:52 PM

I would have answered, but I was too busy shopping for Ex-Lax.

PenguinTrax 10-08-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728511)
Yes, I would like an explanation from the person who deleted the post. That is what the thread was about.

I am glad you agree with me.;)

I PMed you.

I also want to remind everyone of the following, especially the passages in bold. If you want to discuss further, take it to PM.

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Recruitment Forum TOS

People come to this forum for advice, in the hopes that someone may have a modicum of experience with their current situation. Even if they do a search, they may not find the answers they seek. Just because it is the 1000th time you've seen a post about rushing as a junior, or what about XYZ campus, it is the poster's first time and they shouldn't be berated for their questions.

Everyone on Greekchat should be an ambassador for Greekchat. Unless someone's first post is rude or spam-ridden, everyone deserves to be welcomed warmly and to be given respect.
  • Do not bring arguments from locked or edited threads into other, open threads. Especially when it pulls away from a valid discussion.
  • Do NOT cut & paste PMs into threads.
  • Do NOT threaten others. After all, this is the internet, what are you going to do, really?
  • The shock value of vulgar language wears off after its continued use. If you can't get your point across without the use of multiple 4-letter words, maybe you shouldn't be posting in this forum.
  • If you can't be honest and forthright without being insulting, maybe you shouldn't be posting in this forum.
  • Remember your Creed, Symphony, Mission, Goal Statement, etc. Before you post, ask yourself "Am I living up to the expectations of my sisters, my fraternity, myself? Can I do better? Should I do better? Am I setting a positive example on behalf of my organization?"
  • Personal attacks, flames, vulgarity, C&P of PMs, general unsubstantiated rudeness, etc. will not be tolerated in the Recruitment forum and all sub-forums.
My goal and Carnation's is to make these forums a place for open, honest and positive discussion of GLO recruitment. Even negative answers can be phrased in a polite way.

We no longer have the time to PM everyone whose threads are either deleted or edited for content. Please be assured that if we delete or edit a posting, it is because we have received one or more 'reported' post messages, PMs or direct emails and have found the complaint to be valid and in keeping with our goals for making these two forums a welcoming environment.

MysticCat 10-08-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1728819)
I also want to remind everyone of the following, especially the passages in bold.
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Recruitment Forum TOS
  • Personal attacks, flames, vulgarity, C&P of PMs, general unsubstantiated rudeness, etc. will not be tolerated in the Recruitment forum and all sub-forums.


What about specific substantiated rudeness?

Just curious.

Tippiechick 10-08-2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1728818)
I would have answered, but I was too busy shopping for Ex-Lax.

Wow, I think that violates the TOS as rudeness...

I would have given you more of a response, but I am far too busy to care about how the good people of Greekchat worry about me.

preciousjeni 10-08-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1728828)
What about specific substantiated rudeness?

Just curious.

That's the best kind!

PenguinTrax 10-08-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1728830)
Wow, I think that violates the TOS as rudeness...
.

It's called sarcasm....oh wait, I did it again. ;)

Tippiechick 10-08-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1728834)
It's called sarcasm....oh wait, I did it again. ;)

Your sarcasm is other people's rudeness... See how easy it is to have snarkiness misconstrued?

kddani 10-08-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinTrax (Post 1728834)
It's called sarcasm....oh wait, I did it again. ;)

That's pretty hypocritical. You want to dictate to people what they can and cannot post and then you go and be snarky and rude and everything you tell people not to be.

texas*princess 10-08-2008 10:16 PM

I agree kddani.

I think this goes back to the whole 'modding across the boards" thing... because apparently it's only inappropriate to be sarcastic in the Recruitment Forum, but everywhere else, it's OK.

KeepingUHonest 10-08-2008 10:41 PM

Speaking of hypocritical,
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Originally Posted by Jen (Post 1728507)
This is why I avoid the rush forums. There's no point in posting in them, because they only want certain kinds of posts. Ones without any personal opinions.

It doesn't reflect on any sorority that initiates an AI if that sorority was not aware of the fact the person they initiated shopped around until someone said yes. It reflects on the member as an individual. If that sorority was aware of the shopping and okay with it, then it reflects on them. Some people may think it reflects poorly, some may not.

But only those that hold the "may not" opinion are allowed to express their views in the Rush forums.

Remember this post from Jen (formerly known as Ariesrising?)
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ariesrising  Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Area code 99 Posts: 1,924 I think going through AI is 10 times harder than recruitment. I agree with adduncan, there are a lot of different views of AI's among alumnae groups and individual members, and I'm sure some people think it's tacky for a PNAM to want to meet more than one group. Personally I think it's best if a PNAM does meet more than one group...I think you get a better sense of your connection to a group when you have something to compare it against. But for those of you that are just SOOO curious about what groups are in my area, I'll post it in my thread lol. It's easy enough to find out with a little research, so I don't think telling that is such a big deal.

BetteDavisEyes 10-08-2008 11:49 PM

^^^Who are you KeepingUHonest?

KSig RC 10-08-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepingUHonest (Post 1728861)
Speaking of hypocritical,

Remember this post from Jen (formerly known as Ariesrising?)

Are you serious? You created a sockpuppet for this post?

To butcher Ron Burgundy, I'm not even mad - just wow. This might be the single dumbest thing I've ever read in my entire life - and I've read every ufpike post 35x (they're in a puff-painted 3-ring binder underneath my embroidered KSig pillow). My mind is spinning.

texas*princess 10-09-2008 04:21 PM

I think that post could have been made without the use of a whole other screen name.. but that's just mho.

back to where the thread was before that post - I think it's pretty ridiculous to only accept sarcasm in certain forums :)

epchick 10-09-2008 04:36 PM

Apparently speaking ANYTHING except praises to/about Carnation (including her kids) or PT is not allowed in rush threads. :rolleyes:

Unregistered- 10-09-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1729147)
Apparently speaking ANYTHING except praises to/about Carnation (including her kids) or PT is not allowed in rush threads. :rolleyes:

Fixed that for 'ya. :)

epchick 10-09-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1729149)
Fixed that for 'ya. :)

Thanks, I didn't even think about about part! lol

srmom 10-09-2008 05:29 PM

Is it just me, or do some people have too much time on their hands?:confused:


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