I'm hoping all the upsets mean that I may actually get to "smell the ROSES!!!"

U-C-L-A SUCKS da da da da da da da.

I don't understand this. After the two upsets last night (BTW, Congrats to the Sooners too) Kirk Herbstreit said something about 2 teams from the same conference cant go to BCS games. They were speaking specifically about the Rose Bowl. He then mentioned something about, "wouldn't it be great to see USC and LSC in Pasedena?".

I always thought the Rose Bowl was automatically Pac 10 vs. Big 10. I'll need to re-read the rules again. That probably changed when the whole BCS thing came about.

Anyways, it will be interesting tonight when they announce the pairings. Go Bucks!

This is what I found regarding the rules for BCS selection: A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:

A. A team in the NCG;
B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same Conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.

My thinking is: obviously, they can't pick tOSU, since they fit A.
B: Illinois is not a host for another BCS since we weren't "in" yet.
C: Now, since the Rose Bowl lost (or will lose shortly) tOSU, they cannot replace them with a team from the same conference as the conference as the team ranked number two unless that other bowl says it's okay. So, let's just say Georgia is the number 2 team; the Rose Bowl can't pick someone from the SEC to replace Ohio, unless the bowl that had Georgia says it's okay since they had the right to the next highest ranked team from the SEC.

Anyone else, did I say that correctly??...or am I misinterpreting it?

In 2001, Ohio State, the Big 10 got into the NC game. At that time, instead of taking the Big 10 #2, the Rose Bowl instead selected Oklahoma as an at-large. Oklahoma then throttled the Pac-10 champ Washington State.

I'm not saying Oklahoma, the Big 12 champ is going to the Rose Bowl, but I think the Rose takes an at-large over Illinois. Missouri, Kansas or Hawaii maybe.

The whole thing confuses me. But, there is one rule I do understand is that Notre Dame will not receive a BCS bid because they are not in the top 8

Here we go:
1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Georgia
5. V Tech
6. USC
7. Mizzou (AP and USAToday), Hawaii (ESPN)
8. Kansas (AP and USAToday), Mizzou (ESPN)
9. Florida (AP), WVa (USA), Kansas (ESPN)
10. Hawaii (AP and USA Today), Florida (ESPN)

BSC Rankings come out tonight, but most are saying OSU and LSU in the BSC Title Game

Perfect.
 

This gal is still nursing the hangover from last night. I cried like a baby once the clock hit 00:00 and Colt was carried onto the field.

Holy fuck. This feeling's awesome.

Off to the Stan Sheriff in a few hours to await the BCS announcement.

And the rankings are (If not yet updated, will be shortly-3:00 PM or so):
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/polls

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

http://www.scoreboard.msnbc.com/msnb...caafb1a&cat=ST

I'm guessing Hawaii goes to the Sugar. That's based on the rumors I've read coming out of the Oklahoma athletic office.

I hear that the Orange Bowl is trying to get Oklahoma because they don't want to see an Oklahoma v. Kansas game (ratings).

We'll know in a few minutes.

Go Cats!!!

Music City again, but that is just fine with me! It is better than none at all! Plus Nashville is a fun city, which when you are in the band, that matters a LOT because we are there for several days and we need to be able to have fun night life!

I just got home and checked Cats Pause to see where we were going. Apparently Music City is already sold out!

Go Big Blue!!

I was hoping there'd be some miracle upon miracles where Georgia might have a decent shot at the national title. (I'm thinking Hawaii will only get a decent shot at the national title if they are undefeated next season.) I'm still in disbelief that LSU was pushed back up into the #2 spot just so they could play OSU. Then again, it's the BCS system. Why the hell am I shocked? Georgia Coach Mark Richt said it best: There needs to be documented (not unwritten) rule that only Conference Champs can play for the BCS title. LSU does not deserve to be there since they've obviously been ranked #1 twice but could not hold on to the title. I'm beyond upset. :mad::mad::mad:

Here's a link to the bowl games schedule in chronological order: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2836420

I can't cheer for OSU or LSU. OSU has never beat a SEC team for the championship in 8 attempts. LSU is SEC, and I love the SEC, but they're the wrong team.

On the bright side, *singing* Pour some SUGAR on meeeee!!! It'd be nice to see Hawaii do as well in the off-season as they did in the regular season, but I gotta stick with my DAWGS!

ETA: I can't believe I'm hearing the LSU coach talk about their "body of work".

Hawaii's strength of schedule was 119th out of 119 teams in Division IA. Sagarin had it as 137th which means that at least 18 DIAA teams had tougher schedules than Hawaii.

Until they can fix that, they won't get into the MNC game.

Let's hear it for the WAC. Not the strongest conference.

As an aside, Ohio State has done pretty well in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year.

They went from #5 to #3 without playing a game... then the next week, they went from #3 to #1 sitting at home eating popcorn.

Sometimes you're better to be lucky than good.

Why thank you, Captain Obvious.

Explain this to me? Who's "they"? Us? I hope you're not talking about Hawaii. Hawaii tried like hell before this season started: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19605039/

They can't fix it if teams keep on pussying out. Simple as that.

G-E-A-U-X, Geaux Tigers, Geaux! I'm so excited about LSU!! Third times the charm.

Such wishful thinking on Georgia's part! Y'all not only were not conference champs, you didn't even make it to the game. It would be ridiculous to put Georgia in the final game no matter how well they finished the season. You'll get your chance next year!

If you're talking about Ohio State, you missed my point.

Nobody, especially the Buckeyes, expected them to be where they are.

As I understand it, not even Tressel expected to be much better than average this year.

The number one and two teams just keep getting upset, and those hovering around that fall into the slots.

Ohio State isn't the first, earlier this year a team, I think it was USC, jumped up something like seven places on a bye week as I recall

Nature abhors a vacuum.

Hawaii can't schedule those games because no one is going to schedule a home and home with a WAC team which is an ocean away. Those games are being canceled in large part due to Hawaii's arrogance in scheduling. Hawaii is not a BCS team, they should not expect to be treated as such.

To BCS teams, Hawaii is and probably always will be just another WAC game -- an easy OOC win. The teams who have dropped decisions to Hawaii at home over the last few years?

Michigan State, Alabama, Purdue and Arizona State.

A fearsome foursome if ever I saw one. MSU has been miserable over the last few years. As I recall, Alabama played Hawaii while it was on probation and very down. Purdue and ASU (excepting this year for ASU) are not exactly contenders in their conferences.

"They" = Hawaii -- thanks for calling me on that, I actually had a professor last year who would have a coronary every time the word was uttered. I should know better.

At least last year, Boise State's BCS win came against what was a pretty darn good Oregon State team (which finished with a 10-4 record).

I don't mean to diminish what Hawaii has accomplished, I wish them luck in their bowl game. I hope they shut the arrogant SEC fans up, but I don't think that'll happen.

Not likely to happen unless the SEC lost all the bowl games we're appearing in. :cool:

You're right. Wishful thinking it was (and unwavering favortism and faith in my team), but I just don't see how a team that loss it's #1 ranking to an unranked team in triple overtime deserves to play for the national title. Yes, they're the SEC champs, but it wasn't won by a sound beating. Just 21 - 14 over Tennessee. Not very impressive.

Besides, Michigan was denied the #2 slot last year because they had their one shot at #1 against Ohio State. LSU is being granted a third stinking shot at #1. I already knew this, but GAWD THE BCS SUCKS!

Lastly, no written rule that says you must be the Conference Champs. Now, I hate LSU more than ever. (But I can't cheer for Ohio State. Never.)

We know we're not a BCS team. We're just happy to crash the party. :)

The Big XII is just so strong top to bottom. The teams really beat up on each other. It's tough for anyone to run that kind of a gauntlet. That said, OU lost to Texas Tech on the road without their quarterback by 6 points. They lost to CU on the road by 3 points after a really poorly timed turnover.

LSU is pretty lucky this year. 5 plays away from going 7-5. Two losses at home to marginal bowl teams, and a near loss to the Tennessee team due to a fluky interception.

sUGAr
 

Go DAWGS!:D

Nice title, btw.

As my boyf (a UGA alum) said last night, Hawaii may be undefeated but, GA will hand them their only loss of the season. :D

It seems unfair though that since we played less games, we dropped in the rankings and VT went up. If we had only played in the SEC and won, we may have gone to the BCS. Oh well, sUGAr Bowl ain't bad ;)

P.S. Joja, I'm glad to see yet another UGA fan on here! I gotta give it up to VT too though, since I'm from VA and have so many Hokie fans. I'm just glad the Dawgs aren't playing the Hokies in a bowl game again this year - last year was so very hard to watch... At least now I can cheer them both on.

I agree it would have been a miracle to watch UGA make it into the BCS and I gotta say I don't think the rankings were fair in the least. Coach Richt definitely made a good point. AND Ohio only had to sit and watch and didn't have to do anything to get into the BCS, while other teams struggled for the past three weeks, they got to sit at home and rest. BS in my opinion.

I don't know if I agree the Big XII is strong top to bottom (hello, Baylor and even my own Cyclones?) but there were definitely a lot of surprises and upsets. This year was just a strange one overall for NCAA Football. It is nice to see 3 Big XII teams in the BCS top 10, with two of those being Big XII North teams.

GEAUX TIGERS!!!

Congrats to Hawaii for joining the party! Don't forget to bring the Surfing Goat Dairy cheese. Mark Richt should enjoy it with his whine.

Damn right there's another UGA fan. But that game is the game that must not be named. Shhh... ;)

We are so >> HERE <<

OMG! You're being one of those fans that makes other fans hate your team! Even non-college football fans would hate LSU right now. Stop making me (and others I'm sure) want to see LSU lose instead of support another SEC team.

So, here's my dilemma. I'm living in the heart of Ohio State country, watching everyone jumping back on the bandwagon now that they are headed back to the National Championship game. It's disgusting and it won't stop for weeks. You probably wouldn't believe that there are TWO professional sports franchises in Columbus as well as a Triple A affiliate, would you? Of course, that's another thread for another day...

Naturally, I'd like to see the SEC win back to back National Championships because I'm one of those obnoxious SEC fans who really believes the SEC is better than everyone else. :D Problem is, it's LSU. I believe that regardless of their two losses that they're still the best team in the country (sorry Georgia fans). Having said that, there are not enough words to express my extreme dislike of LSU. I mean, my background on my home and work computer is a scoreboard that reads UK 43 LSU 37 and it may stay that way for eternity!

Who the heck do I cheer for?

Baylor isn't good, but they still have the potential to beat anyone in the conference. So does ISU. They played Oklahoma pretty close -- they've had some other really close games as well. Also, this was their first year with a new coach, so it's not really fair to judge them at this point.

The Big XII is excellent top to bottom. Anyone could beat anyone else in any given week -- KSU throttled Texas at home. Tech beat Oklahoma, Colorado beat Oklahoma. Nebraska is loaded with talent and Pelini is about to put it all together.

The Big XII is just fine.

For goodness sakes, I was JOKING about Richt and the cheese. I just didn’t feel the need to fill up space with smilies. If you or anybody else, doesn’t want to support LSU, that’s fine. Hate fuels passion. We may win, we may lose and the sun will still rise the next day. BTW – pick out some new gear on me and we’ll call it an early Christmas present. http://www.justbuckeyes.com/ That was a joke too. :):p:D;):):p;):D

LOL, I just had some last week. Good stuff!

You might want to consider this for your Christmas present to Mark Richt:

http://www.surfinggoatdairy.com/imag...seonashirt.jpg
Cheese on a Shirt

They have Cheese in my Pockets too!

Congrats to Hawaii for joining the party, yes. And good for them for only losing one game of the season (c'mon, this will be one of the few GOOD teams they will have played so it's understandable that they'll lose). :)

fixed.

LOL, I hadn't watched every Hawaii (or any) games so I didn't want to be wrong and say "only." :D Let's face it, it's gonna be a cupcake game. It's easy to be undefeated when you play other crappy teams... Not so easy when you're playing top 10 teams and winning :cool::D

And it's my hope (and the hope of an entire state) that they'll actually win just to shut presumptious people like you up. :)

We've seen a whole bunch of #1s and nationally ranked teams get upset this season. I wouldn't place your bets on it just yet. ;)

But hey...bring on the naysayers. We understand y'all are pissed off so it's naturally it's understandable to take out your frustrations on us because your team got the shaft.

You're right that Hawaii winning would certainly go with the theme of this season with all the crazy wins happening. BUT, you only need look at GA's track record this year. The only game that was really a shocker was the game against USC (Carolina). UGA just played bad that game. I'm not going to deny that UGA had some shaky moments this season, but they have finished it out very well. You can't deny that UGA is a damn good team and will most likely have a great win at the sUGAr bowl. :D And UGA fans will never shut up. We're Southern and we love our football. Losing to Hawaii will only make us louder next year, trust me.

I don't doubt for a second that UGA's a great football team. Shit, even I think they were robbed. I'll even echo the SEC fans "arrogance" (TM Kevin) when I say that SEC football's the damn best out there.

As I said earlier, it's not Hawaii's fault for having a weak schedule (link provided above). It's no fluke. Colt's offense and a highly improved defense (compared to recent years) is what got them this far and yes, they'll be put to the true test come January 1st, but I really think it's far too early to call it a cupcake game, especially when you're basing your opinion on shit talk you read on message boards and you've never even seen a game. :)