I did, too, and I'm the first to defend the news media when they report a hazing incident-- they're not sensationalizing it by reporting that on X date, members of ABC GLO forced their new members to (Fill in hazing example here). Quote from parent, quote from faculty, quote from nationals. Print.

However, this book is compilation of anonymous sources. I'm sorry, but in the sorority world, we aren't so top secret that we need to have a series of "Deep Throat" sources to leak information...

Her book is written as narrative and then she chases some urban myths out and explores them with out-of-date texts and more anonymous interviews. That's not effective reporting-- that's yellow journalism. I can't trust her sources if she doesn't cite them.

I do feel like the "narrative fiction" portion could be true-to-life on any college campus where women are living together in a sorority house or in a residence hall... girls sitting around talking, going to parties and enjoying being in college doing the stupid things that college "kids" tend to do.

But to pin the blame on Greeks for all college society ills is neither academic nor scientific nor statistically correct. Drugs/alcohol, hazing, body image problems, rape, etc., exist on all levels. Greeks are an elite society-- we should hold ourselves to a higher standard, yes, but we aren't the cause of these issues and a book of anonymous claims shouldn't make them appear legitimate to the common public as the Greek Community's fault.

"for those that are criticizing the book without reading..."

I am not accusing everyone in the thread that has commented on this subject as having not read the book, what you have taken the time to quote is just what it means "for those that haven't read the book" it is similar to what you are accusing AR of doin.
Period.

This thread is old and like kddani said just about everyone has read the book by now.

You apparently thought the thread wasn't too "old" to post a little over once per hour in it.

Just saying is all. :)

First of all the "this thread is old" wasn't meant to be rude or disrespectful, I was merely agreeing with kddani in that by now everyone prob had read the book. When I first came across the thread I had not realized it began last year. My bad.

Second spend less time tryin to put me "in my place". If you have an issue with something I said PM me.

But it didn't take any time at all. :confused:

I am too grown for your nonsense, I said all I had to say in the PM so leave it at that.

Remember how it said at the end of her book that the reader could could eventually go to her website to get an update on what's going on with the four women featured in the book?

Does anyone know if that ever came to fruition?

Yes, there's more information in the Pledged Thread

Yeah...and.... PSSSSttttt...... I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you REALLY cheap! :D

Ch2tf,

I am not chastizing You or anyone else on the Merits of this Book.

But, if this was a true book of events instesd of supposedly Greek Soroitys would it sell so many Copys?

Why did A R. write it, Well, To make Money!;)

Animal House is the Primary Movie that attempts to show what Greeks are about and it is BS. It was as said about this book a fluff job that was made in fun.

But, This paticualar Book seems to some to be the Antipathey of what Greeks are about and also not True.

A school and a Sorority!? What the F!!! There are Chapters all over and each is different. True or False?

Not mad or indifferent, I just have a Mind that trys to work more than some following a fictional book and beleiveing it!:)

I have never doubted money/notoriety as a motivation for writing this book. And I don't think that I said that, and if I did that is not what I meant. I meanly replied in this post because it initially appeared as though many people were commenting on the book without having read it. Much time has past since and it now appears most people currently posting have read the book.

And yes there are chapters all over and every chapter is different and one can't generalize greek life from the experience of a few I get that, as is stated in my earlier posts, I just felt that in the same spirit of this statement it can't and shouldn't be ignored that such things do happen in some places.....

I don't wanna go back into all over again, but I think you get the idea. And I don't feel chastized, I just don't have tolerance for the immaturity that can sometimes pop up when one posts their opinion.

Best

If I had a wooden spoon, I would give you two on the bumm!

-Rudey

back to topic...

I realized that Pledged was a work of fiction in the first chapter, when she mentioned the alum and "drug room". Yeah, right.

What a maroon.

I think you mean moron... and I can't remember exactly where, but that is not the only place I've read of a chapter having a drug room. Just because it's against the rules doesn't mean that people won't do it. People, affiliated with GLO and unaffliiated do things they aren't supposed to do all the time. That is why we have laws and prisons. We all can agree for the most part that the majority of greeks have not witnessed or participated in all the things she claims in her book and move on with our lives. If you add wood to the fire and continuously fan the flames, it will never go out.

EarpSpeak--Moron=Maroon.:D


kapsigcub, Like Your Usage!!!!!!:cool:

BabyPiNK, I meant to type "maroon". It is a Warner Brothers pop culture reference that you obviously missed. It is my personal policy not to "continuously fan the flames", but thanks for the advice!

LOL: Hear Bugs Bunny Say "What a maroon! What an ingoranimus!"

Mystic, you're an ultra maroon.

Haha, nice clip. I was thinking of the ultra maroon one when I heard kapsigcub.

I admit that I bought the book. I was hoping to get it from the library but there was a huge waiting list at the time.

I literally only read to page 6 before I became completely appalled by it.

I thought it was tacky that she opened the book with bid day from the early 90's where girls were hazed. Heck ADPi didn't establish anti-hazing rules until 1996.

My first thoughts on that were that she was the girl who didn't get the bid to the house where mommy and grandma and sister went, who was still crying back in the MU (or wherever the heck she was). Within the prologue you knew the book would be a complete diss on sorority life.

I finally put it down when she declared that all sorority girls were popular, pretty and rich (and I'm paraphrasing her). I most certainly WAS NOT popular in high school. I come from what would be considered a high middle to low upper class family, no way considered "rich". And I think I'm pretty but I'm most certainly not drop dead gorgeous. Right then I knew she would be using those stereotypes through the whole damn book.

Plus, once I found out that she actually divulged ritual of other sororities (Gamma Phi, if I remember correctly from reading on the boards here), I just couldn't read it. I have no desire to learn other sororities SECRET RITUALS!!!!

All I can hope is that the "movie" that is supposedly being made either is shelved or completely tanks at the box office.

I haven't read every page of this thread(all 23!) so I hope this isn't a repeat.

What I don't understand is why she chose a sorority at a Texas school(and she gave away that it was a Texas school maybe unintentionally, I paid attention to details) and then in another part had it stated that sororities in Texas are like "the extreme sport of greek life" or something to that extent. How then can she expect to be unbiased like she says she is?? I'm from a school in the Northeast so the only things I know about sororities in Texas would have to be adopted from that book but believe me I did NOT take any of that stuff she said seriously. Every chapter of every sorority is different, I don't know why she thinks that following 2 sororities at a big school in Texas is gonna represent all of us. And she shouldn't have said she was being unbiased because it's almost impossible to be unbiased about anything.

Also, I think it's ridiculous that she published some sororities secrets in their. I refused to read it.

And there is a thing where on her website you can read updates. I think you have to have the book in front of you to be able to look up a word on a certain page that serves as a password. Read it or don't, it's up to you.

It's unlikely that she'll ever come around, although Joan Ryan did it when she published a book in the mid 90's about gymnastics called Little Girls In Pretty Boxes and how it was nothing but a breeding ground for eating disorders and that the sport was "child abuse." She later republished the book with a new section in the back saying that gymnastics was no longer like that and basically said that the 1996 Olympians were healthy young women. Hmm if she could be convinced....who knows?