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DeltAlum 11-03-2003 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
As an Oklahoma (see, DA, I did it) fan, I would welcome a shot at the Trojans. They look like the only team out there that could even give OU a run for their money.
Nice writing style. The Associated Press would be proud of you.

Pink&Blue 11-03-2003 10:02 PM

SC fans believe OU is about the only team that can give us a run for our money (our freak loss in triple OT to Cal notwithstanding).

We've beaten our opponents by an average of 24 points. We have the 13th toughest schedule in the nation. It would be a good game.

And I think USC would come out on top by a narrow margin. I think either way, whomever wins, it will be by a narrow margin.

Pink&Blue 11-03-2003 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by kstar
[B]Aim for #3, then maybe you'll win your bowl game!



Ppssshaw... The Sears National Champioinship trohy is coming back to Norman, Oklahoma, where it belongs...
Pac-10 football? No, it's BIG XII FOOTBALL!

No point in #3 really, is there? For teams as good as Southern Cal and Oklahoma, its Nat'l Champ game or nothing. :)

Kevin 11-04-2003 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by Pink&Blue
No point in #3 really, is there? For teams as good as Southern Cal and Oklahoma, its Nat'l Champ game or nothing. :)
I'll agree with that... USC is a good team. However, I have yet to see much reason to give creedance to the ability of PAC-10 teams. OU didn't get the PAC-10 butt-kicking that we'd anticipated in the Rose Bowl from Wazzu..

And UCLA this year allowed Jason White and company to score 50+.

Yeah.. K-State beat Cal:p

Pink&Blue 11-04-2003 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
I'll agree with that... USC is a good team. However, I have yet to see much reason to give creedance to the ability of PAC-10 teams. OU didn't get the PAC-10 butt-kicking that we'd anticipated in the Rose Bowl from Wazzu..

And UCLA this year allowed Jason White and company to score 50+.

Yeah.. K-State beat Cal:p

Yeah, we started out the season w a bunch of ranked teams--OU, Ore St, WA St. ASU, USC... and end up w just us and WA St. Pac 10 is a tough conference, because regardless of the disparity between the best (USC, WA St) and the worst in the conference, we all play each other pretty toughly, and an undefeated team w in the Pac 10 is pretty rare. USC did it in 88, our only loss was to Notre Dame. That was also the last time we were ranked 2nd, and the measles was decimating the campus and the football team that November. We had Rodney Peete and UCLA had Troy Aikman battling it out that year.

I never under-estimate our Pac 10 opponents. Everyone can have a good or bad week. Look at our loss to Cal as a prime example. We were too busy looking ahead to the next week and a ranked opponent and we got beat.

Hopefully that won't happen again, as I'd love a chance to play Oklahoma. It would be a great game. USC is far tougher than the rest of the Pac-10, that is a fact, but, as our loss to Cal shows, that doesn't make us unbeatable. But, unlike Miami, our loss was at beginning of season, which is why, of all the 1 loss teams, we will get the shot if we win out.

steelepike 11-04-2003 05:07 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
The Oklahoma Sooners will win their 8th NC and tie with Notre Dame for the record. Perhaps will pass them in '04 with the 9th?

Ya'll can mark it down, call the bookie, it's essentially a done deal.

I am going to the bookie and saying no way on two in a row.

The way a team wins today isn't always talent but luck, fortune has to give a few heads up to the team who wins it all. This year maybe an exception but anything can happen. When OU won it all in 2000 no one expected it, and with Ohio State, same and Miami got lucky in not having to play Oregon that year. They would have matched up better than a slow playing Nebraska.



And for all other things I want USC to play in the title so that whoever wins will drop and FSU can claim no. 2

I just don't think Rix could beat Oklahoma.

Kevin 11-04-2003 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by steelepike
I am going to the bookie and saying no way on two in a row.

The way a team wins today isn't always talent but luck, fortune has to give a few heads up to the team who wins it all. This year maybe an exception but anything can happen. When OU won it all in 2000 no one expected it, and with Ohio State, same and Miami got lucky in not having to play Oregon that year. They would have matched up better than a slow playing Nebraska.



And for all other things I want USC to play in the title so that whoever wins will drop and FSU can claim no. 2

I just don't think Rix could beat Oklahoma.

Some of your "great" teams are capable of repeating.

OU has many starters that should be back next year and the depth to make another NC run.

If White gets his medical redshirt I definitely wouldn't count 'em out of the NC picture for next year.

Pink&Blue 11-04-2003 06:20 PM

And USC, if we don't win it this year--we'll be back next year and the year after. Williams and Leinart are sophomores. White is a freshman. We're a very young team. And we just signed the #1 high school recruit. USC Football is back to stay. Thank God! :)

FIGHT ON FOR OL' SC!

The1calledTKE 11-09-2003 12:56 PM

What in the crap happened to FSU? Thats game has to be one of the biggest upsets of the season.

bethany1982 11-09-2003 01:34 PM

Another great day!

mu_agd 11-09-2003 01:44 PM

My REDHAWKS cracked the ESPN/USAToday Top 25 for the first time in almost 30 years!! So excited!!

stillwater15 11-09-2003 02:58 PM

i'm a huge fan of the usc trojans and while it's great to be ranked #2 in the all important bcs, oklahoma is scary as all get out. they look like a pro team, running, throwing and basically destroying all these teams. unless a team plays the game of their life against them, the sooners will be hard to beat.

AUDeltaGam 11-15-2003 02:12 PM

Auburn vs UGA today!!

The South's Oldest Rivalry

WAR EAGLE!

sugar and spice 11-15-2003 05:12 PM

Wisconsin BUSTED MIchigan State today. And we needed it. The only reason the game was even as close as it was is because we brought in all the second stringers for the fourth quarter; otherwise we easily would have broken 60 points.

College football has been so weird this season. It seems like every other game is an upset and all the teams that are supposed to be good keep losing to bad teams. In the big ten alone the rankings have been absolute madness -- so many teams have been in and out of the top 25, have lost to much worse teams. I think it's pretty clear that overall Oklahoma/USC is a guaranteed #1/#2 and that no one can touch Oklahoma, but beyond that it's ALL up in the air.

valkyrie 11-15-2003 05:27 PM

Well, I'm glad Iowa won today. They keep disappointing me this season.

absolutuscchick 11-15-2003 06:25 PM

Let's go USC!!!! Beat the wildcats :) :)

kddani 11-15-2003 10:14 PM

Pitt-WVU
 
DAMN good game so far. Tied 24-24 at the half.

Our receivers are making amazing catches in double and triple coverage.

The punt returns have been huge for both sides, not sure what's up with that.

Very entertaining game, turn it on for the second half!

Thrillhouse 11-15-2003 10:42 PM

Ohio St can still pass USC into the #2 spot even if both teams win out but it all depends on the computer vote. I think Michigan will beat Ohio St next week though.

absolutuscchick 11-16-2003 02:16 AM

USC is still number two!!! Woohoo!!!! Beat stupid U of A by 45 points!!!!

But Arizona State lost to Washington State today....

UGAnchora 11-16-2003 03:33 AM

How bout them Dawgs?!?!?! 26-7 Baby!

AUDeltaGam 11-16-2003 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by UGAnchora
How bout them Dawgs?!?!?! 26-7 Baby!
:mad: :p

Kevin 11-16-2003 09:30 PM

Re: Pitt-WVU
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
DAMN good game so far. Tied 24-24 at the half.

Our receivers are making amazing catches in double and triple coverage.

The punt returns have been huge for both sides, not sure what's up with that.

Very entertaining game, turn it on for the second half!

I watched that game. Great first half for Pitt and Fitzgerald. WVU really handled him in the 2nd half, almost shutting him down. Being and Oklahoma fan and pulling for White to win the Heisman, I was pretty nauseated by the lovefest for Fitzgerald. Halfway expected them to say something like:

"Fitzgerald is the best receiver to ever play the game, watch on his next catch, he'll score 3 touchdowns and tie this game back up".

Was a serious Fitz lovefest. Harldy a mention of the team that was 25 points up except that they had fireproofed the campus and were taking down the goalposts after the game. East coast bias much?

AXJules 11-16-2003 10:06 PM

OK.....

Anyone surprised Mizzou's going to a bowl game???

I AM!!!!

Kevin 11-16-2003 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
OK.....

Anyone surprised Mizzou's going to a bowl game???

I AM!!!!

NO!

Mizzou is great under Brad Smith. Hopefully, they can recruit some talent and become a more dominant force in the North.

I'll be surprised not to see them playing OU for the Big XII championship.

AXJules 11-17-2003 02:18 AM

Don't get me wrong, I think Brad Smith is phenomenal....but this year when we lost, we played like ^($*%@#*...Brad is awesome but we don't have a lot going for the rest of our team.

Kevin 11-17-2003 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by AXJules
Don't get me wrong, I think Brad Smith is phenomenal....but this year when we lost, we played like ^($*%@#*...Brad is awesome but we don't have a lot going for the rest of our team.
Smith will probably be there at least another two years. If ya'll can recruit a defense, you'd be a contender.

Thrillhouse 11-17-2003 08:04 PM

Re: Re: Pitt-WVU
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
I watched that game. Great first half for Pitt and Fitzgerald. WVU really handled him in the 2nd half, almost shutting him down. Being and Oklahoma fan and pulling for White to win the Heisman, I was pretty nauseated by the lovefest for Fitzgerald. Halfway expected them to say something like:

"Fitzgerald is the best receiver to ever play the game, watch on his next catch, he'll score 3 touchdowns and tie this game back up".

Was a serious Fitz lovefest. Harldy a mention of the team that was 25 points up except that they had fireproofed the campus and were taking down the goalposts after the game. East coast bias much?

Fitzgerald really is that good. Thing of it is, if you stop him you stop the team. The right coverage can stop the guy.

White is the obvious Heisman choice right now because he has had a great year on the #1 team and he is a senior. Fitzgerald has the stats but sophmores don't win the Heisman so nothing to worry about.

I have to confess also that I haven't seen any sooner games so far this year, what makes White so good? (I see his stats are good each week)

Thrillhouse 11-17-2003 09:57 PM

Ohio St is now #2 in the BCS poll. Wow, if they beat michigan, looks like they will play Oklahoma since USC doesn't have any ranked teams left on the schedule.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/abcsports/BCSRankings

sigtau305 11-17-2003 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by Thrillhouse
Ohio St is now #2 in the BCS poll. Wow, if they beat michigan, looks like they will play Oklahoma since USC doesn't have any ranked teams left on the schedule.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/abcsports/BCSRankings

OSU could have lost that game but they got the win they needed. now Michigan stands in their way.

GO BUCKEYES!!!!!

The1calledTKE 11-17-2003 10:11 PM

Unless Kentucky or GA Tech upset Georgia looks like they willb e going to the SEC championship for the East since they changed the rules in the case of a tie the team with the best bcs ranking goes. The big suprize is it looks like Ole Miss with Eli Manning will be going for the SEC West. Who would have thought. I would still like to see a Georgia /LSU re-match.

absolutuscchick 11-17-2003 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thrillhouse
Ohio St is now #2 in the BCS poll. Wow, if they beat michigan, looks like they will play Oklahoma since USC doesn't have any ranked teams left on the schedule.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/abcsports/BCSRankings

ARGH!! I want USC to be #2!!!! Gosh darn it!

Kevin 11-18-2003 12:55 AM

Re: Re: Re: Pitt-WVU
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Thrillhouse
Fitzgerald really is that good. Thing of it is, if you stop him you stop the team. The right coverage can stop the guy.

White is the obvious Heisman choice right now because he has had a great year on the #1 team and he is a senior. Fitzgerald has the stats but sophmores don't win the Heisman so nothing to worry about.

I have to confess also that I haven't seen any sooner games so far this year, what makes White so good? (I see his stats are good each week)

White is a great story first and foremost. The man was injured in '01 early on as starter he tore his ACL against Nebraska. He went through extensive surgery/rehab, came back and was named starter again. On an early Non conference game versus Alabama he suffered the same injury to another knee. On both injuries, he was untouched. So now, he's come back after two knee surgeries and about 2 years of rehab to have numbers like 36 TD's and 6 INT's with 11 wins and no losses as QB. He's led the team so well that he's been held out approximately 1 1/2 games this year because of blowouts.

Surrounded by great players? Yes. However, these are the same players that were around when the OU under QB Hybl was thought to be a defensive powerhouse and an offensive non-starter. White is the difference.

With those numbers alone he shouldn't have any problems. To put it in perspective, Carson Palmer, last year's winner amassed these numbers in an entire season: 309-of-489 passes (63.2%) for 3,942 yards, 33 TDs and 10 interceptions. White still has 3 games left and is 216-of-332 passing (65.1 percent), 3,052 yards, 36 TDs, 6 INTs.

Thrillhouse 11-18-2003 08:17 AM

Pretty good numbers. He is a shoo in at this point. I haven't seen his name real high on qb lists for the draft next year but the injuries would explain it.

Kevin 11-18-2003 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Thrillhouse
Pretty good numbers. He is a shoo in at this point. I haven't seen his name real high on qb lists for the draft next year but the injuries would explain it.
We OU fans have our fingers crossed that his current draft value might prompt him to apply for a medical hardship 6th year of eligibility so he can prove that he's not as injury prone as advertised.

amycat412 11-18-2003 02:54 PM

As a local newscaster said last night-- BCS--remove the C and you've got the true meaning of the system.

I will not get started on my rant--but I will mention 4 things--

1. Its not over. When Michigan beats OSU this weekend, USC will reclaim 2nd.

2. Its not out of the question that we may even if OSU wins, we are only .19 behind them. Our strength of sched went down with the AZ game, it will come back up with UCLA and Oregon St.

3. That margin of win is not factored in anymore is wrong. Ohio State squeaked out that win without any offensive touchdowns. I am not saying they are not a good team, but they are a good defensive team, they are not a complete team like USC and Oklahoma are.

4. If USC, LSU and OSU win out and Ohio State goes to Sugar Bowl and beats Oklahoma, they will have to share National Championship with USC. Going into Sugar in that scenario, AP and Coaches polls would still be 1. Okla 2. USC 3. LSU and 4. Ohio State. Winning the Sugar Bowl would give OSU an automatic first place and share of National Champ in Coaches poll. But AP poll does not automatically do that. In AP Okla would drop, USC would rise, and share National Champ with OSU.

But its not over until its over. And our team is young, there is always next year, and, finally, we should not have lost to Cal. ha ha

Thrillhouse 11-18-2003 08:46 PM

I have nothing against USC and think Mich will beat Ohio St but:

Ohio St has played tougher teams which is no fault of USC but still. Margin of victory was thrown out the window for teams that purposely ran up the score on bad teams. Nothing like getting two cheap td's in the 4th quarter to get a point total up to 63 instead of 49. Purdue isn't a bad team at all, they were 11th at the time.

Hate to say it but if Ohio St beats Michigan, their strength of schedule will jump up much higher than USC playing UCLA and Oregon St. I was surprised to see OSU overtake USC before the Michigan game.

If anything, I would have thought that the big city and big media market bias would show up and put USC at #2 but its still possible for that. Look at TCU getting knocked down to #8 this week after they were in the bcs picture at #6 last week.

amycat412 11-18-2003 08:55 PM

Actually, analysts have said OSU's SOS will not raise much after Michigan game, whereas USCs will raise significantly back up with UCLA and Ore St. We were 13 in SOS before the UofA game.

If OSU beats Michigan, there is nothing USC can do, but hope that they then beat Oklahoma, making us #1 in AP poll. :) ha ha

Kevin 11-19-2003 10:20 AM

Ya'll are leaving out one small detail.

You have to beat Oklahoma.

Not gonna happen :D

Thrillhouse 11-19-2003 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Ya'll are leaving out one small detail.

You have to beat Oklahoma.

Not gonna happen :D

Oklahoma is already crowned 2003 champs. But the good thing about college football is that there are other storylines about which teams go where.

The1calledTKE 11-22-2003 05:50 PM

Ok as long as Tennessee beats UK next weekend Georgia will be SEC East Champs because Georgia is the top BCS team for the SEC East. If Tenn loses, since UF beat Georgia they would be SEC East champs. Never thought I would root for Tenn, but Go Vols!


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