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coooool...thanks. :) That's different than the ad that I have saved. I like the one you found better. |
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And I love the Roca Wear ad. Look at those beautiful babies. |
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Well, I'll admit that when I first heard about the ad, my first reaction was distaste. I immediately thought "is she getting paid for this?" and that didn't sit well with me. I think it is odd to capitalize on this type of fame, and for Roca to do the same.
But, maybe she isn't getting paid. Maybe everyone is acting as an advocate, which although I'm not sure I agree with it (because I'm not sure what justice is here, though my opinions have certainly not been formed against such a campaign), it is much less disconcerting to me. But even if she is getting paid, I'm not sure I find it as appalling as I did when first hearing of it. She's presumably devoted a lot of time to this, and she's got a family to care for. I think in this scenario (a more traditional ad relationship), my discomfort would come from Roca, which is probably reaping some financial benefit from the exposure. But, who says you can't mix activism with business. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_officers Covers the reasons I used the term. As for Peace Officers being shot and shooters getting away with it; while I do not have a case in hand in the back of my mind I d believe that it has happened. I will look around for it. And since you brought it up, perhaps you too can see what evidence is out there. I did find this story: 2 plead guilty in Atlanta police shooting death Manslaughter pleas come after 3 officers indicted for killing elderly woman ATLANTA - Two police officers pleaded guilty to manslaughter Thursday in the shooting death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid. A third officer was also indicted in the woman’s death. Gregg Junnier, 40, who retired from the Atlanta police force in January, pleaded guilty to manslaughter, violation of oath, criminal solicitation and making false statements. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18328267/ And Rev Al has yet to show any interest in this: Off-duty Md. officer fatally shot by city police http://www.policeone.com/officer-sho...y-city-police/ |
I'll leave the linkages up to you, Jon, that's what you do. IF there is a case where a police officer was shot 50 times, the shooters were caught and they didn't get a hefty sentence for killing that cop, I would LOVE to see it. If it existed, I'm sure we'd all be aware of it.
And the definition of "peace" officer isn't what I was questioning, it was your use in sympathy with the police and your obvious "bend" in this case. |
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So, the offer and suggestion is still open. Just as how many people today remember the three other lives wreaked by the TB matter that Rev Al walked away from?? I ask that only as a pointer that we all do not know or recall everything that goes on. And your "bend" may be showing in your POV of my use of a term. Look back at my OP and you may just see how the definition is used. And FYI, there are matters involved in this case that do truly bother me. And many of them, if not all, have already been brought up. |
Oh, I'll state and stand behind my bend in this case -- those officers killed that man in cold blood and are free to return to their lives and families. It's unconscionable. They should be locked up and made to pay for their crime just like anyone else who did what they did (but didn't have a badge to protect them). And worse, it doesn't send a signal of support or comfort to the society around them that are supposed to trust them and put their lives in their hands, nor does it give a lesson to other members of the force that actions like this won't just be swept under the rug. When citizens carry fear or mistrust of the police, it is because of incidents like this. So call them whatever you want, a p.r. campaign won't erase the appalling injustice in this (and similar) cases.
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If a Peace Officer were to be shot only once or twice, knifed two or three times, or run over by a car once or twice and then dies, and the person goes free, all is OK? I am sure that you do not mean or believe that, but your posting could indicate that. And I only pointed it out as an example of emotions and just how they can have an impact on a persons thoughts and actions. |
I believe in the justice system.
I did not hear the evidence. The lack of a jury trial is can be a disadvantage to the defendant, which is why it is up to the defendant to waive it or not. I am not upset at the judge. I would like to know how the prosecutors did or did not do their job. Do I really care? Probably not. |
One thing to keep in mind also Sen I.
The officers gambled (correctly) to not have a jury trial... most people woukd think it to be insane...however The Amadou Diallo trial was done by a jury and look how that turned out.... |
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Feature: Jurors Acquit California Narc Who Killed Rudy Cardenas in Mistaken Chase http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-...cquittal.shtml And this as well: MAN ACQUITTED IN SLAYING OF POLICE OFFICER http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA...0/07300255.htm Cop shooter convicted of assault, cleared of attempted murder http://recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../NEWS/80424023 Acquitted of cop killing, reputed Blood gets 10 years in car theft http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...ing_reput.html |
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We are talking about NEW YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT which has killed 5 UNARMED people in the last 10 years (twice using excessive force) with only ONE cop being convicted. Obviously this is a problem IN NEW YORK CITY...not anywhere else.... Hell, I can tell you about the police shooting a man down at Lexington market in Baltimore City which I witnessed first hand.. http://www.workers.org/ww/1997/baltimore0904.html But this is NOT where we are talking about! |
An aside - one of the links is to an article that says Nicole married Sean Bell posthumously. Is that possible? I don't want to sound unfeeling, and to have your fiancé die on your wedding day - and in such a violent fashion - would be awful, but a posthumous marriage???
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