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Drolefille 07-19-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1488515)
Well, to be fair, he certainly did judge from time to time. Remember how he talked to and about the Pharisees and their attitude that they were more religious than anyone else and kept the law better than anyone else?

Of course, Jesus gets to judge, being God Incarnate and all. The rest of us, not so much. ;)

And he pretty much told his disciples NOT to judge others. But yeah, being Divine gets you perks.

MysticCat 07-19-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1488516)
And he pretty much told his disciples NOT to judge others.

Lest they themselves be judged, as I recall.

Drolefille 07-19-2007 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1488517)
Lest they themselves be judged, as I recall.

Why does everyone forget that bit? I mean, and I'm not talking about internet chit chat here, why do people go along judging anyway? Is it just hubris? They're so sure that they're right in what they do that their own judgement doesn't bother them?

I need to be drunk for this conversation. This sounds like a great drunken philosophical conversation coming up here.

LPIDelta 07-19-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1488515)
Well, to be fair, he certainly did judge from time to time. Remember how he talked to and about the Pharisees and their attitude that they were more religious than anyone else and kept the law better than anyone else?

Of course, Jesus gets to judge, being God Incarnate and all. The rest of us, not so much. ;)

True--point well made :)

AlexMack 07-19-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1488519)
Why does everyone forget that bit? I mean, and I'm not talking about internet chit chat here, why do people go along judging anyway? Is it just hubris? They're so sure that they're right in what they do that their own judgement doesn't bother them?

I need to be drunk for this conversation. This sounds like a great drunken philosophical conversation coming up here.

Break out the sigma kappa shotglass! Wait, do you have one of those? That was one of my initiation gifts.

summer_gphib 07-19-2007 11:19 PM

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While I'm not a fan of the word "herstory" as it completely misunderstands the etymology of the word "history" is anything created by "humanists" automatically wrong?
Not always, but in using "herstory" in a Christian way, I think it's wrong. Many feminists have used the "herstory" idea to say that God is a female. There was even a "bible" that was changed to make God a female. (Right now the name of it isn't coming to me and I'm feeling too lazy to look it up.)

I don't think everything humanist is necessarily wrong. But when it comes in the context of flying in the face of Biblical teaching it is.

IMHO "herstory" also looks ignorant, and it's like scratching fingernails down a chalk board.

I'm really glad of Gamma Phi Beta's and Gamma Sigma Sigma's HISTORY. ;)

UGAalum94 07-19-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1488519)
Why does everyone forget that bit? I mean, and I'm not talking about internet chit chat here, why do people go along judging anyway? Is it just hubris? They're so sure that they're right in what they do that their own judgement doesn't bother them?

I need to be drunk for this conversation. This sounds like a great drunken philosophical conversation coming up here.

Well, there's some amount of sincere belief that you have an obligation to admonish sinners as a spiritual act of mercy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_works_of_mercy, but even then, I think it's supposed to be more of a "hey, did you know that it's sinful to do that, so quit it" rather than "nah nah nah we're better than you."

About being drunk for some conversations: I got a random email from a former student asking me what I thought of copyright in the digital age basically, and I asked him why he asked. His response was that he and his college friends were having drunken debate about it. I'm a complete nerd, but even I didn't waste my college late night conversation on copyright. Kids these days.

MysticCat 07-19-2007 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1488519)
Why does everyone forget that bit? I mean, and I'm not talking about internet chit chat here, why do people go along judging anyway? Is it just hubris? They're so sure that they're right in what they do that their own judgement doesn't bother them?

Apparently it doesn't. Sometimes I think they're just so confident that when that judgment comes around, God is going to thank them for taking care of things for him.

summer_gphib 07-19-2007 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1488531)
Apparently it doesn't. Sometimes I think they're just so confident that when that judgment comes around, God is going to thank them for taking care of things for him.

That made me laugh out loud. I've got to share that with my pastor! *lol* :D

UGAalum94 07-19-2007 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by summer_gphib (Post 1488535)
That made me laugh out loud. I've got to share that with my pastor! *lol* :D

Wait, you're in a regular sorority and you have a pastor? Like you go to church and stuff?


Please apply your own signature to my post.

DeltaBetaBaby 07-19-2007 11:51 PM

Would anyone here like to join my new sorority, Phi Sigma Mu? We are dedicated to serving the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You can read about our beliefs here.

We are way better than all other sororities, because we have been touched by his noodly appendage. If you'd like to join, please acquire a pirate outfit for the pledging ceremony.

Drolefille 07-19-2007 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by summer_gphib (Post 1488529)
Not always, but in using "herstory" in a Christian way, I think it's wrong. Many feminists have used the "herstory" idea to say that God is a female. There was even a "bible" that was changed to make God a female. (Right now the name of it isn't coming to me and I'm feeling too lazy to look it up.)

I don't think everything humanist is necessarily wrong. But when it comes in the context of flying in the face of Biblical teaching it is.

IMHO "herstory" also looks ignorant, and it's like scratching fingernails down a chalk board.

I'm really glad of Gamma Phi Beta's and Gamma Sigma Sigma's HISTORY. ;)

Well I don't really think God is necessarily male or female, but I think that it's silly to call Jesus by feminine pronouns. I'll agree with the ignorance thing though. Oh, another good one is womyn. Get to take the "men" out of "women." Again, a lack of understanding of etymology. It's like some people think that English is the alpha and omega of languages.
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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum (Post 1488530)
Well, there's some amount of sincere belief that you have an obligation to admonish sinners as a spiritual act of mercy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_works_of_mercy, but even then, I think it's supposed to be more of a "hey, did you know that it's sinful to do that, so quit it" rather than "nah nah nah we're better than you."

About being drunk for some conversations: I got a random email from a former student asking me what I thought of copyright in the digital age basically, and I asked him why he asked. His response was that he and his college friends were having drunken debate about it. I'm a complete nerd, but even I didn't waste my college late night conversation on copyright. Kids these days.

Yeah but, as you said, it's not quite a *OMG YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN THE PITS OF HELL" sort of thing.
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Originally Posted by porkfriedrice (Post 1488522)
Break out the sigma kappa shotglass! Wait, do you have one of those? That was one of my initiation gifts.

I do actually have one, it's remained a collectors item though. I'm still the Sober Sigma in my group of friends/sisters.
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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1488531)
Apparently it doesn't. Sometimes I think they're just so confident that when that judgment comes around, God is going to thank them for taking care of things for him.

lol, I would say I want to watch that particular interaction, but it's more uncharitable of me than anything else.

Drolefille 07-19-2007 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 1488546)
Would anyone here like to join my new sorority, Phi Sigma Mu? We are dedicated to serving the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You can read about our beliefs here.

We are way better than all other sororities, because we have been touched by his noodly appendage. If you'd like to join, please acquire a pirate outfit for the pledging ceremony.

*raises hand* Are ninja outfits acceptable for Pastafarians?

UGAalum94 07-20-2007 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 1488546)
Would anyone here like to join my new sorority, Phi Sigma Mu? We are dedicated to serving the Flying Spaghetti Monster. You can read about our beliefs here.

We are way better than all other sororities, because we have been touched by his noodly appendage. If you'd like to join, please acquire a pirate outfit for the pledging ceremony.

DBB, I'm not busting on you, but the Flying Spaghetti Monster thing always just seemed mean spirited to me, much like some devoted believers so I get that.

But personally, if I were a resolved non-believer, I don't think I would waste any of my time baiting the religious. What's the only thing that would be more pathetic than devoting your life to an irrational belief system? Devoting your life to mocking those who hold an irrational belief system.

ETA: I was looking at the site, and I concede on the point of resisting the teaching of Creationism in school, it's effective, which really was their point. Actually, I think all effective resistance would take is promoting exactly how specifically religious Intelligent Design is. For a long time, I though it just kind of said, hey maybe evolution didn't just happen on its own. When it says instead stuff more like, "and at this point, we think God did this and here's why."

ladygreek 07-20-2007 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1488512)
While I'm not a fan of the word "herstory" as it completely misunderstands the etymology of the word "history" is anything created by "humanists" automatically wrong?

I hope not, and as a Humanist I, too, do not like the term herstory. On another note I do like the term shero when referring to a female role model . :D


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