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Wonderful1908 11-21-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1551257)
LOL!!! I wonder if it's a southern thing? My Sorors and I call it strutting too.:D


I call it strutting too! I was made in Louisiana so maybe so?

titan257 12-05-2007 02:04 PM

I am not greek but I have tons of greek friends. One thing that bothers me is strolling at a non-greek party. Its like how do you expect "townies" to not break the stroll line if they dont know what the h e double hockey sticks you're doing. Then they start fighting.....its just stupid to me.

DSTCHAOS 12-05-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by titan257 (Post 1557925)
I am not greek but I have tons of greek friends. One thing that bothers me is strolling at a non-greek party. Its like how do you expect "townies" to not break the stroll line if they dont know what the h e double hockey sticks you're doing. Then they start fighting.....its just stupid to me.

I agree and even if they know what you're doing, should they always care? I don't even care most of the time and I've broken many a stroll.

The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

TotallyWicked 12-05-2007 10:33 PM

^^^Along with that what's with folks strolling smack dab in the center of the dance floor disturbing folks' dancing area...if the dance floor is full just go around the people, I hate dancing and getting pushed out the way or have my toes stepped on, and people wonder how fights start.

1908Revelations 12-06-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1557974)
I agree and even if they know what you're doing, should they always care? I don't even care most of the time and I've broken many a stroll.

The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

Wow!!!:eek:

mulattogyrl 12-06-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1557974)
The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

CTHU @ the gangs looking like fraternities. You're right though - if you don't know what you're looking at, you might get it confused.

Still BLUTANG 12-06-2007 02:29 PM

off topic...
i've never seen bloods or crips stroll - but then again i dont think i've ever KNOWN that i was around them (but i have been). wow!!!!

DSTCHAOS 12-06-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG (Post 1558594)
off topic...
i've never seen bloods or crips stroll - but then again i dont think i've ever KNOWN that i was around them (but i have been). wow!!!!

I'm sure they wouldn't call it a "stroll" or maybe they would. :confused:

I assume the Crips were Crip walking in a straight line. But they were throwing their hand sign up and wearing blue. I didn't know they were Crips until there was gang warfare outside of the party later on. :rolleyes:

rhoyaltempest 12-12-2007 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1557974)
I agree and even if they know what you're doing, should they always care? I don't even care most of the time and I've broken many a stroll.

The worst is years ago when I went to NPHC parties in areas with Bloods and Crips. The Bloods and Crips looked like Sigmas and Kappas. They did handsigns, "strolls," and so forth. Many fights began because people confused NPHCers with gang members or locals, etc.

This is messed up but it's not our problem. This is the very reason that some non-greeks associate our traditions with that of gangs but we shouldn't stop doing what we do because of them. Since the beginning, many clubs and organizations (greek and otherwise) have had handsigns, colors, and other traditions that these gangs are now copying.

ladygreek 12-12-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1562216)
This is messed up but it's not our problem. This is the very reason that some non-greeks associate our traditions with that of gangs but we shouldn't stop doing what we do because of them. Since the beginning, many clubs and organizations (greek and otherwise) have had handsigns, colors, and other traditions that these gangs are now copying.

Um, BGLO hand signs are relatively new (compared to our beginnings--there were no handsigns (or calls) when I was initiated) In fact it would be a safe bet to say that gangs had them first.

rhoyaltempest 12-15-2007 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1562219)
Um, BGLO hand signs are relatively new (compared to our beginnings--there were no handsigns (or calls) when I was initiated) In fact it would be a safe bet to say that gangs had them first.

I'm not talking about BGLO's but rather American clubs/teams/organizations in general since the beginning of the fraternal movement. The bottom line is that the dynamics that go along with forming organizations and creating unity among members can be found in any organization, negative or positive. Even the KKK is a fraternity that shares similarities with other (more positive) fraternal organizations.

ladygreek 12-15-2007 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1563775)
I'm not talking about BGLO's but rather American clubs/teams/organizations in general since the beginning of the fraternal movement. The bottom line is that the dynamics that go along with forming organizations and creating unity among members can be found in any organization, negative or positive. Even the KKK is a fraternity that shares similarities with other (more positive) fraternal organizations.

But your assertion is that gangs are doing the copying. Using your argument above you would have to include gangs from their beginnings also. Did you see the movie Gangs of New York? And of course you know about the Mafia.

Again though my point is you can't generalize--gangs had handsigns and calls before BGLOs. And some of the BGLO signs do resemble some gang signs.

PrettyBoy 12-15-2007 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1563803)
And some of the BGLO signs do resemble some gang signs.


DSTCHAOS 12-15-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1562216)
This is messed up but it's not our problem. This is the very reason that some non-greeks associate our traditions with that of gangs but we shouldn't stop doing what we do because of them. Since the beginning, many clubs and organizations (greek and otherwise) have had handsigns, colors, and other traditions that these gangs are now copying.

It's actually everyone's problem.

You have to be familiar with every setting that you're in. I've seen locals and gang members fight BGLO members over strolls and other things. I know of BGLO members who have gotten shot because they were confused for someone else. It's not worth fighting or being killed over--wasn't worth it when I was an undergrad and certainly isn't worth it now. If the Bloods and Crips or other nonBGLOers have their thing, the BGLO members need to be aware of it and get out the way if necessary.


If BGLO members care so much to make a change somewhere, they should get involved with gang-oriented or other community service starting the following Monday.

DSTCHAOS 12-15-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1563803)
But your assertion is that gangs are doing the copying. Using your argument above you would have to include gangs from their beginnings also. Did you see the movie Gangs of New York? And of course you know about the Mafia.

Again though my point is you can't generalize--gangs had handsigns and calls before BGLOs. And some of the BGLO signs do resemble some gang signs.

I actually wasn't too sure of what her assertion was.

I thought she was just another BGLOer who (in a nice way :)) thought the sun should rise and shine on our behinds regardless of where we show up. Age and experience reminds us that many people (BGLOers and nonBGLOers) don't give a good darn about some of "our" often instrusive customs.


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