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TonyB06 01-26-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1389860)
TonyB06, that was not the intent as some want to make a big deal about on site.

It is my feeling that both of these gentlemen would prefer the spot light not be on them, but on the players and the game.

Do they desearve it, YES. Did they earn it, YES!

The coach I admire the most is Eddie Robinson of Grambling who did not get the recognition that He so richly desearved.

Oh, for those who do not know, he was happy at what he was doing and where he was with the school, his team, and its athletes.

Ok, Tom
I take you at your word. I've seen both Lovie Smith and Tony Dungy interviewed recently, and while both are focusing on their teams, they each spoke poignantly about what this accomplishment meant. They expressed gratitude to those who opened the door through which they (Smith/Dungy and hopefully others) now walk. So, I think they're handling the "spotlight" quite well.

I, too, admire Eddie Robinson, who happens to be a distinguished brother of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. :) Head coach at Grambling for 56 years, more than 400 career wins; The Football Writers of America "Coach of the Year" Award is named after him.

Yep, Eddie Robinson, is, indeed, somebody's football coach....

shinerbock 01-27-2007 12:02 AM

I love the term "opportunity hoarding." Damn white males. For future reference, I plan on continuing to hoard all the opportunities I can.

On a serious note, I think there is something to be said about black Americans having to play catch up. However, its not just white people, or even mostly white people, that are holding them back.

DSTCHAOS 01-27-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1390078)
I love the term "opportunity hoarding." Damn white males. For future reference, I plan on continuing to hoard all the opportunities I can.

Thank Charles Tilley's Durable Inequality (1998) for that. He rocks.

I'm glad you're humored by it all but it's very real.

Tom Earp 01-27-2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1389874)
Does celebrating FIRSTS mean that the people don't deserve it, didn't earn it, and mean we can't enjoy the Superbowl as we normally would? No.


I never said they did not desearve it!

I just said they probably rather be out of the lime light and be know for Coaches as opposed to being the first Black Coahes in the Super Bowl.

Should we as semi football fanatics enjoy the game, I guess so!:eek:

It is not the coaches who make the difference, it is the big SOBs on the field who do!:D

Maybe, the media should give Tony and Lovie a break!;)

DSTCHAOS 01-27-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1390283)
I never said they did not desearve it!

I know you didn't and neither did we.

Since no one said they didn't deserve it, why do you keep ranting about "yeah, they're black but they aren't here because they're black...they deserve to be where they are...they would probably rather not be in the spotlight about being the first blacks."

We know they deserve to be where they are and (again) you don't know what these coaches care about or if they're offended about being an acknowledged FIRST. It's like you're trying really hard to appear colorblind or something (as do many whites) when this discussion never called for it.

starang21 01-28-2007 04:43 PM

go colts

Munchkin03 01-28-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1390326)
Since no one said they didn't deserve it, why do you keep ranting about "yeah, they're black but they aren't here because they're black...they deserve to be where they are...they would probably rather not be in the spotlight about being the first blacks."


BECAUSE HE IS A DRUNK FOOL.

Yeah, I said it.

CutiePie2000 01-28-2007 05:33 PM

DSTCHAOS is the greatest and deserving of much praise and accolades.

DSTCHAOS 01-29-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1390557)
BECAUSE HE IS A DRUNK FOOL.

Yeah, I said it.

Ohhhhhhhhh.....:eek:

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000 (Post 1390563)
DSTCHAOS is the greatest and deserving of much praise and accolades.

You rock. And I guess I owe you some money for this plug. :)

shinerbock 01-29-2007 12:42 PM

I think I'm gonna start a blog where I detail all the opportunities I hoard on a daily basis. I'll post the link when I decide.

DSTCHAOS 01-29-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1390843)
I think I'm gonna start a blog where I detail all the opportunities I hoard on a daily basis. I'll post the link when I decide.

I suggest researching the issue of opportunity hoarding before you make a fool of yourself for the sake of a "joke."

shinerbock 01-29-2007 01:08 PM

I'm familiar with the subject. I fail to see how joking about it makes me look like a fool. Moreover, I don't think your judgment would carry much weight, even considering your status as a "Tilley" scholar.

DSTCHAOS 01-29-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1390865)
I'm familiar with the subject.

No, you aren't.

shinerbock 01-29-2007 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1390890)
No, you aren't.

Your credibility would rival that of President Bush.

DSTCHAOS 01-29-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1390895)
Your credibility would rival that of President Bush.

Unlike Bush, I can tell when you're clueless on some topics.


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