I think all chapters should have her as a guest speaker on risk management, and how we an rid our chapter houses of the "drug room" (I would also like to know where my chapters "drug room" is especially since we don't have a house)

i loved the book. And for the people who chose not to read it...gently push your pride away...read it before you hate on it.

that's what i'm doing.. i reserved it and am fifth on the list.

None of the Toronto libraries have her new book.

Well I'll just have to wait because I have no intention of buying it.
Mybe I'll pop into chapters on a couple of lunch hours and read it there;)

LOL, I'd be happy to read the book if someone sent me a free copy. Then I would freely put the smack down on this woman in a debate.

From reading the excerpts, here is my opinion -- we have a woman who for whatever reason was not greek in college and has always regretted it. She wanted to write a book that allowed her to pretend to be part of the greek system but still let everyone know that she considers herself to be above it all. So far all I've seen from this book are things any of us could have written ourselves after reading GC and stalking people's AIM away messages. I know I'm older than the intended audience for this book, but I have to laugh if Alexandra Robbins thinks I'm stupid enough to fall for this pile of crap.

Oh high and mighty one, please forgive all of us GCers who care enough to discuss the excerpts, interviews, websites, etc. of the author without reading the book.

But if we read the book, could we talk about the other things too, even if we haven't seen them?

*begging for forgiveness*

:rolleyes:

<-- caved yesterday and bought a copy from overstock.com for 14 and some change... best price out there. Half.com and amazon should be flooded with used copies soon

A controversial book is going to sell more copies than one that is coated with fluff.

Non-Greeks are fascinated by the Animal House mythology of Sororities and Fraternities, and the media feeds on this. Outside of that, Non-Greeks really don't give a damn about what happens in our houses. We're an elitist secret society-- not everyone can be a member. So of course people will be a little curious about what goes on behind closed doors. Those same nuts are the ones who want to know that happens in the CIA, and the FBI, etc. And the more controversial, the greater the buzz.

The ages of an average collegiate chapter of a GLO range from 16-23. This is an age where people are experimenting with newfound freedoms from their parents and developing their adult selves. That's why college students drink to excess, experiment with sex and drugs, etc. It's also why GLO leaders get sadistic sometimes and create tests of loyalty for their members that lead to national headlines and lawsuits. Greeks are no different than any other college students-- it's just that group mentality at work and some bad decisions that make an otherwise honorable mission-- Friendship-Scholarship-Leadership-- fall by the wayside.

maybe not UNT
 

the school in TX she was referring to could be UTD? Big deal sorority girls are shallow and want members from the rich side of town, but a whole book about it? Truly is she is trying to depict sorority girls in Dallas as elitist with our LV bags she should have mention that EVERYONE in dallas is like that!

alpha-holics
 

If it is UTD my cousin is an Alpha Gam there, but she's no Alpha-holic! *LOL* I'll have to tell her that!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I've read the footnotes and who she considers as "credible sources" and that's ample information for me to discern what kind of book this is, and what agenda she has.

But let me guess...if you found this in your order from Mickey D's, you'd eat the rest of the nuggets, because they're probably okay, right?

http://www.mad-cow.org/00/chicken_head.jpg

So because I've read it and I think it's utter crap am I allowed to say that it's a big pile of stinky poo? Just checking, unless that is too prideful.:rolleyes:

like it or not i did write her an email. i didn't mention my glo, but if she or whomever is behind that screen name decides to look around the site, i'm sure they'd figure it out. i've copied and pasted what i wrote to her. enjoy and let the bashing of me begin!

Dear Ms. Robbins,
I find your post on Greekchat very odd and somewhat contrary to the interview that was on the MSN homepage just a couple of days ago where you stated that sororities have naked parties and breast relays (or however you put it). I'm not sure what sororities or schools you found this at, but I have a very very difficult time believing that this happens. And if it truly did/does happen, that's not the norm and you need to make that clear. To say that these things are sorority issues is wrong in my opinion. I personally saw more of the drug use, alcoholism, rape, and all around debauchary going on in non-greek groups. In that sense I feel that you've taken an anti-greek stance. I don't doubt that some of these things go on within the greek system, but make sure you mention that it's a college wide issue and not just a greek issue. I will say that I haven't read your book, and don't know if I will. To begin with I'd rather not put money in your pocket if you are going to write about this stuff. Secondly, I don't care to be offended any more than I already have been. I try very hard as a member of a GLO to represent myself and my organization in the best light possible. I also strive to help people understand what we stand for and that we aren't just a group of katty girls who drink a lot and sleep around. Thank you for putting me back a few steps in my efforts.

Not only are her "sources" in the footnotes not too credible (I mean she uses KD's norman sheild as a source quite a bit... but when she uses it in the book she quotes an early 90's version... in the footnotes she mentions it was updated in 2003 WHY NOT USE THE NEW ONE ??!! She also doesn't really refrences her footnotes back to where she uses the info in the book very well... in fact I don't know what citation model she used... but I've never seen it and I don't think I could've turned in a paper that was cited like that...

Oh I so can't wait to read this when it comes.
Early 90's version???? Talk about out of date.
She has no excuse not to cite the updated version. Every single page IS ONLINE AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC (check it out at www.kappadelta.org)

But then again, she was probably able to twist the early 90's version to suit her agenda more

Re: maybe not UNT
 

lol @ LV bag comment so true :p

I don't know how big UTD or even UTA are as far as their greek system goes, but as far as I know I don't think either of them have houses?? Maybe their "drug room" is a sectioned off part of a chapter suite? :rolleyes:

Like someone else mentioned, based on what I have seen, it doesn't look like she has very credible sources...for all we know, her entire "undercover sorority experience" could be just a figment of her imagination.

If she really wanted to write a "tell all" book she should at least have the ...erm.. guts to tell all... like who her "renegade sisters" were.. what school they were on... etc. I have a hard time believing someone when they say they had some really reliable sources but "can't tell" to protect their idenities.

How do we know that "robbins" really is who they say they are on GC? I find it kind of amusing that "robbins" has dissappeared after starting such a thread like this.

Ok, that is all for now :)