I was wondering when all the drama between the pledge housemates would occur. So whats the deal with that jessica chick getting slapped?? Who's the sylvia chick? Sorry but on the previews i was on the phone and didn't hear much. At first i thought someone slapped becca the pledgemaster.

Here's a sorority question...since sororities cannot blackball people from initiation really except if they don't pay their dues or commit a crime, how do you girls get them to drop after they are initiated? And why can't you girls just blackball them instead of letting them see ritual and then doing some other means to get them to leave the chapter.

Personally - as a pledge class they are able to drop a girl. If they don't think she is pulling her weight, and wouldn't be a good sister as a pledge class they can drop her *or as you say blackball*

my definition of blackballing is when you kick somebody out of the sorority/fraternity when they are already in. Not at rush week, pledge processes and so on. After they are already initiated as a member.

hope that helps. All sororities are different, so you're prob going to get a lot of vary in responses.

Here's a sorority question...since sororities cannot blackball
people from initiation really except if they don't pay their dues or
commit a crime, how do you girls get them to drop after they are
initiated? And why can't you girls just blackball them instead of
letting them see ritual and then doing some other means to get them to
leave the chapter.

One of the main ways sororities differ among themselves is in terms of
how formalized their standards board process is and how much power the
board has.

Since you're a fellow frat guy, I'll frame this from a frat guy's
point of view... Most of us at one point or another during our
college years get to have the very cool experience of a sorority girl
going home from our lovely frat house after sunrise, if you get my
drift. From the girl's point of view, what she does is her own
business, thank you very much, but if it happens one or two or three
times too many and word gets around, that when the sorority's
standards board has an obligation to get involved.

Different sororities can have very different reactions to a situation
like this, all the way from totally ignoring it (it's her own
business) to taking it extremely seriously. This protects the
sorority (for obvious reasons), but it also protects the sister in
question, because the standards board process is a reasonable and
sensible alternative to destroying a sister through endless gossip.

But I'm just an old frat guy... Any of you ladies out there want to
dish^H^H^H^H share some real examples of how standards boards
go about doing their jobs? I promise I won't tell a soul. :eek:

As far as i know jordan and amanda dont stick with it. a couple of friends of mine went to a party at the house right next door in Davis about 2 weeks ago and met some of those girls and said that Jordan and amanda are no longer there. Sorry if i bursted anyones bubble.

So what are everyone takes on that show? Me personally i have learned a lot of what not to do!

Well Amanda is in the pictures from their formal that is dated just like a week or so ago. So I'm not sure if your information is correct....

From what I heard on the MTV message boards, Jordan and Mara are the ones that drop out. I think they drop out around a week or two before iniation. If you go to the MTV boards you can kind of tell that they are the ones that drop because Mara dogs a lot of what went on within the sorority.

We do NOT have to initiate anyone! If they do not meet their moral, financial or academic obligations, we do not initiate. And yes, I have witnessed a new member called into J-board the day before initiation and booted for moral indiscretions. New members know that they have those obligations from the get-go, and if they don't meet them, we cannot initiate them!

Does anyone know for sure from Davis who stays and leaves pledging????

dzsaigirl,

Isn't it true that a pledge is held to a higher standard than actives? So are more likely to go in front of the j-board for something an active might not be?

Not really. It's the action that gets you brought in, not who you are. But at the same time, why would you initiate someone who has been brought to J-board for something pretty bad? When people misbehave from the get-go, that's a bad sign. When an active does something they can obviously get disciplined, but since they are already initiated it would take more for them to get actually suspended. Does that make sense?