Then delta gamma made quota. Congrats to Alpha Nu chapter and all the NPC groups.

Two questions:

1: Were first round cuts predetermined?

2: How much information do the PNMs know about the sororities after the first party? I know some schools list the chapter GPA on their website. It seems that the most recent information from USC schools is from 2010. Do the PNMs know if the sorority is or has been the recipient of any university discipline within the last three years?

Membership selection is private.

Why am I flashing on MacBeth...the three witches? (double bubble toil and trouble?

Thank you DBB, but I think Alabama was transparent on my first question.

As for my second question, why should I provide my daughter with $5000 dues if the chapter will be revoked before her graduation? I know some schools where the GPA range is less than 0.25, but if a chapter is significantly higher or lower than the average is that a secret?

Lastly, if a chapter is predominantly Christian I would think science majors would like this information.

1. None of your business or anyone else's outside of the individual chapters, for that matter.

2. How in the world would we know what PNMs know at any point in recruitment?

Carnation, I tried. I really did. (Do I hear that sound? yup. Here it comes).

for ellebud: Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

If you look on the general Panhelleni site you will find out that the sororities have a higher average than the student body in general.

There is one Christian house on campus. I do not have a clue to their beliefs with regard to sciences. BUT, as I Jew I find it offensive that you would equate all or some Christians Greeks or not with what I perceive as a far right backwater feelings about science. I believe that one can practice their faith and medicine at the same time...whether the person is a practicing Jew, Christian, Muslim or Hindu...whatever.

You are aware that this is Los Angeles...right?

If a chapter had any RM issues in the past you can't always use that as an indication to the future. Maybe those issues were with only a few ladies and those ladies are no longer with the chapter.

If your daughter wanted to know this info she could have asked during recruitment.

Really?! Wow.

Surely, surely, you aren't inferring that these are mutually exclusive. Surely.

If so, well, I guess I have been doing my science-based profession AND my Christian faith wrong for the past 20 years.

Sheesh.

ss to offend you ellebud, that was not my intent. I was just thinking of the statistics that say only twenty-five percent of scientists believe in Christ, and the rest of it. DD has friends that are Muslim, Jewish, Christian, and Hindi. However most of her friends are atheist or agnostic.

fwiw, most medical professionals take minimum classes in math, physics, and chemistry. They really are not considered scientists.

Also while the sororities may have a higher average GPA, is it statistically significant?

I really bought into the whole story that sororities are different that what I knew when I was in college. But after all the 'cool party' talk and lack of interest in charity activities during convo days I am confused. Perhaps the large recruitment class forced many actives to take part in first round without the proper preparation.

QFP.

Mevara, of course past issues will not predict the future. I just wonder if PNMs know if there is already a strike against the chapter.

Let me relate a story that was told to me by Dennis Prager. Many years ago Dennis was the director of a Jewish think tank where I was also a member. The question about faith and science was raised as to whether one could be a scientist and a religious Jew.

Dennis's brother was a doctor...And when asked how he could be so religious, see death and disease given to humans by God...Dennis told us that his brother said that every time he looked into a microscope he saw God's handiwork...

Elie Weisel was also a speaker. When he was asked how, as a survivor of The death camps who Mr. Weisel could ever believe in God...Elie Weisel said that God was absent in the Nazi soul...but God was present when one starving child shared his crust of bread with another.

I may be a bit philosophical but faith and science are not mutually exclusive...Faith and belief may make one a better person...and then a better doctor/scientist/researcjer/