No, also first cousin once removed. Second cousins have a great-grandparent in common--their parents are first cousins.

Sorry - forgot CHILD of your parent's first cousin. I know several of my second cousins, and tons of first cousins once removed, and lawd help me, second cousins once removed. We're a fertile family.

Thanks for the clarification! Honeychile does know best. :)

Our family is not that close, so given that definition, I don't even know my second cousins!

My family is just tiny and so we have to know our cousins be it 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc.

I can only tell you what I would want my organizations to do, which might be some or all of the following:

1. Roll our eyes, talk about what an idiot the author is, and remember that our organization is going to continue strong decades after this smarmy freshman journalist graduates and the newspaper piece is forgotten. In other words, sticks and stones.
2. Demand that the paper print a retraction.
3. Write letters to the editor and/or op-eds correcting all the nasty lies.
4. March outside the newspaper offices at a busy time with signs condemning their poor work.
5. Pass out flyers and put up posters around campus setting the record straight.
6. Go to a rival publication or campus radio/TV station to set the record straight.

But deliberately try to bankrupt the newspaper? No. I love my university, and it needs a daily student newspaper, just as it needs a football team, an orchestra, and a student government. Student newspapers' eternally rotating leadership will inevitably make some stupid decisions. Going for the corporate death penalty when it happens would be killing a flea with a bazooka. It makes me look silly, and I could end up hurting innocent bystanders.

Things would confuse other people when I mentioned my family (my dad's side is just me & sister for the most part) as we have cross generational bonding due to age. My great aunt & great uncle are only a couple years older than my mom so I usually never use great and say aunt & uncle. My mom was the oldest of 7, but I came along later, so my 1st cousins' kids I am closer to in age. That's the same generational placement that makes my second cousin old enough to be my dad, but my first cousin once removed my age peer.

Before I moved away from the big city and met people who had rural backgrounds, or were Mormons, I was pretty much the only kid who knew those degrees and removals of their family. My dad's family threw that way off though as my grandparents married and had him late, and he had me later in life, but weren't farmers. When one has 10 or so kids the first born is usually having their first born when their last sibling is being born. It ended up that my maternal great grandmother was a year or two younger than my paternal grandmother, which further became skewed as she got married at 14 to my 27 year old maternal great grandfather.

Also way creepy thing (but normal at the time and still in some world cultures) I found in my background: my father's mother's grandfather married a woman who died with no offspring, so he married her sister. So my great great great aunt and grandmother are crossed on my family tree.

Cousin at EKU enjoyed the first night!
*fingers crossed for her to have a successful recruitment*

that whole family/cousins thing has always been confusing to our family because my grandfather and his brother married two sisters. So my Dad has cousins from both sides of the family at once! ... now, go back and read carefully. My grandfather didn't marry his sister... people always seem to get that twisted.

Keep us posted. I would love to read her recruitment story.

The TCU schedule this year had one optional party at the end of days 2, 3, and 4. The sororities were able to choose whether or not they wanted to add their optional party each day based on their returns so that they could space the PNMs out more evenly.

From my observation, some houses used theirs and some didn't - and some used them one day but not others. I know we used ours all three days!

(I don't have exact numbers - sorry - but I arrived at hour house each evening right as the last party was starting so I saw which houses had members pouring out to go to dinner during that last time and which ones had PNMs standing in the tents outside. The way that TCU is set up, you can't see all the tents from one vantage point, so I didn't get to count houses....)

Alpha Gamma (Kappa Delta chapter) - Westminster College, MO achieved quota +7 (21):D

KKG and KAT also made quota but I don't have the exact numbers.

Zeta Tau Alpha at the University of South Carolina has 108 new members!

I think quota was 108.

I got Kappa at South Carolina today! They were who I went in wanting, so I'm excited. :)

My cousin at Eastern KY is a new member of
























KAPPA ALPHA THETA!!!!

She is so excited. Theta was her favorite throughout recruitment.
I'm so happy for you and all you Thetas have gained another awesome sister!

nittanygirl ~ congratulations to your cousin & to Theta @ EKU!