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ZTAMich 10-24-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xo_kathy (Post 1344632)
LOL, Michelle. After the win my husband offered to buy me a jacket like the team was wearing. I said, "WTH would I want that?" If he was drunk when he got it, it's got to be bad!!

Hey, how'd he get tickets?!? It's my dad's 60th birthday this week and we'll be back in Detroit for Game 6 - so if it gets that far we'd love to take him to the game. So far we've had no luck tracking down a pair.

I got a text msg just aftermidnight that they had won. I'm sure it was an after the game & a few beers purchase!

Tickets came thru some sports-world connections. He knows someone at MLB who hooked him up. Tho he didn't want to 'owe' him so he paid for most of them I think. Which I think is crazy considering he could get the MLB guy Knicks or Nets tickets & call it a fair trade. Well ok not FAIR since these are World Series tickets & the Knick's aren't really the same callibur in the basketball world...but still. Good luck finding a pair - I wish I had better advice!!

xo_kathy 10-25-2006 01:21 PM

:(
I hope this isn't a repaeat of the Mets/Cardinals series...

KSig RC 10-25-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xo_kathy (Post 1345776)
:(
I hope this isn't a repaeat of the Mets/Cardinals series...

The Cardinals REALLY have to beat Bonderman tonight - he's been pretty bad in the postseason, but if he holds it together against the So Taguchis of the world, his ground ball tendencies should really help him.

If the Cards lose tonight, Verlander and Cheatyface back-to-back could get ugly (HI JEFF SUPPAN HI JEFF WEAVER) - however, I'm not sure the Tigers will ever score another run off Carpenter, so winning tonight might end the series in favor of the Cubs Lite.

Thrillhouse 10-25-2006 04:53 PM

So about the cardinals not winning a game.....

I am loving it though, there were about 967 tiger fans in the state of Michigan until recently.

valkyrie 10-25-2006 05:34 PM

I about died when I heard Berman say "Winnie the Pujols" last night. Holy shit.

I hope the Tigers win, even if Magglio Ordonez sounds like a guy who would come in the night to kill you.

Munchkin03 10-25-2006 06:47 PM

I think I might be the only person around rooting for the Cards. It's the only thing holding up the house of cards that is Casa Munch.

During last night's game, we were looking at espn.com and it had a pronunciation guide for some of the ball players...Poo-Holes is the way they said to pronounce Pujols.

efcheerBB 10-26-2006 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1346051)
I think I might be the only person around rooting for the Cards. It's the only thing holding up the house of cards that is Casa Munch.

During last night's game, we were looking at espn.com and it had a pronunciation guide for some of the ball players...Poo-Holes is the way they said to pronounce Pujols.


I am with you in rooting for the Cards. I am from St. Louis and have been rooting for them for a long long time now. Even when I moved to Michigan to go to MSU, I still rooted for my Cards and wore my St. L shirts!!!

valkyrie 10-26-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1346051)
Poo-Holes is the way they said to pronounce Pujols.

I swear I'm not 12, but that's just never not funny.

xo_kathy 10-26-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1346051)
Poo-Holes is the way they said to pronounce Pujols.

LOL at valkyrie

If you know Spanish, though, it's not really Poo HOLES. The second sylable is more like hols - short and quick, not a drawn out oooo sound...if that makes any sense?

It's still hard for me to say - I end up saying Pool-hoes. My Puerto Rican husband has to always correct me...:o

KSig RC 10-26-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xo_kathy (Post 1346456)
LOL at valkyrie

If you know Spanish, though, it's not really Poo HOLES. The second sylable is more like hols - short and quick, not a drawn out oooo sound...if that makes any sense?

It's still hard for me to say - I end up saying Pool-hoes. My Puerto Rican husband has to always correct me...:o

Dude, even saying it "Poo-HULss" is tremendously funny, because I'm secretly 12 years old.

Thrillhouse 10-26-2006 12:50 PM

Popping in a white sox ws game dvd last night more than made up for the lack of a live game last night:D

Munchkin03 10-26-2006 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xo_kathy (Post 1346456)

If you know Spanish, though, it's not really Poo HOLES. The second sylable is more like hols - short and quick, not a drawn out oooo sound...if that makes any sense?

Don't forget that these pronunciation charts are geared towards middle Americans who think they're exotic when they eat kaysadillas! :D

(yeah, i'm an urban snob. oh well.)

OMG it's so funny to watch Detroit. Dudes are falling down, tripping over their feet--and yet not catch a ball! 6 errors in 4 games?

Munchkin03 10-26-2006 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie (Post 1346423)
I swear I'm not 12, but that's just never not funny.

I will admit that I'm totally 12, and it's providing way too much comedy for me.

tinydancer 10-27-2006 12:21 AM

Cards lead series 3 games to 1. I'm rooting for them- since the Phillies bombed out, I'll just stay with the National League.

AGDee 10-27-2006 05:48 AM

We're definitely giving these games away. Well, we can't be too sad. The Tigers went from one of the worst records in baseball (if not THE worst) to making it to the World Series in one season. It's been a fun party anyway! I think we'll take the next game, but I'm not holding my breath after that...

PM_Mama00 10-27-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1346887)
We're definitely giving these games away. Well, we can't be too sad. The Tigers went from one of the worst records in baseball (if not THE worst) to making it to the World Series in one season. It's been a fun party anyway! I think we'll take the next game, but I'm not holding my breath after that...

We were talking about that at work yesterday. Even if we lose, it's just losing the title... which ok is everything in the baseball world, but to see a shit-ass, constantly losing team totally turn around within a year and make it to the World Series has been awesome.

dzfan 10-27-2006 11:16 AM

I am definitely rooting for the cardinals!

BaylorBean 10-28-2006 12:51 AM

GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I so wish I was in STL right now! God I miss home. Way to go guys! Great game! What a way to break in the new stadium!

PM_Mama00 10-28-2006 01:59 AM

Congrats to the Cardinals. I love the little guy, So Taguchi?

Still proud of the Tigers though. They did what no one imagined could happen this year.

AGDee 10-28-2006 08:23 AM

Congrats to the Cards. They definitely played better baseball in the World Series.

And, thanks to our Tigers for the fun ride. You brought us back to a level of respectability on the baseball field. What a great year!

Dionysus 10-28-2006 10:26 AM

How come my hick ass neighbors started SHOOTING (like you do on New Years) when the cards won? :mad: :eek: :rolleyes: That's Missourah for you!

But, yeah, congrats cards! :)

KSigkid 11-01-2006 04:09 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2645976

Whatever Mota was using, it didn't work. He was awful last year.

KSigkid 11-21-2006 03:47 PM

Ok, so they don't give the MVP to Jeter. Fine, I'm thinking, did they give it to Mauer? I mean, he deserved it too.

No..they gave it to Justin Morneau. And, even worse, Mauer didn't even finish in the top 5. Glad to see they only looked at counting stats.

Between this and last years NL result (Beltran and Cabrera finishing so low, Hoffman and Garciaparra getting votes), they really need to start taking away some voters' ballots. At least they got the AL Cy Young correct.

KSig RC 11-21-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1360937)
Ok, so they don't give the MVP to Jeter. Fine, I'm thinking, did they give it to Mauer? I mean, he deserved it too.

No..they gave it to Justin Morneau. And, even worse, Mauer didn't even finish in the top 5. Glad to see they only looked at counting stats.

Between this and last years NL result (Beltran and Cabrera finishing so low, Hoffman and Garciaparra getting votes), they really need to start taking away some voters' ballots. At least they got the AL Cy Young correct.

. . . I think they got the NL CY 'right' within an acceptable margin of error, too. Otherwise, agreed - how about 5 ballots naming Freddy Sanchez compared to ONE naming Jason Bay? Or a dozen writers not listing Miguel Cabrera in the top 5 (and a half-dozen leaving Beltran out of the top 5)?

Or Hafner below Frank Thomas . . . the list could go on and on.

Terrible voting, just terrible.

KSigkid 11-21-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1360976)
. . . I think they got the NL CY 'right' within an acceptable margin of error, too. Otherwise, agreed - how about 5 ballots naming Freddy Sanchez compared to ONE naming Jason Bay? Or a dozen writers not listing Miguel Cabrera in the top 5 (and a half-dozen leaving Beltran out of the top 5)?

Or Hafner below Frank Thomas . . . the list could go on and on.

Terrible voting, just terrible.

Yeah, I forgot the NL voting, although I thought Hoffman got too many votes...overall pretty good though.

This MVP voting was, possibly, the worst I've seen though. Just horrible, right on line with the 1987 results (Andre Dawson and George Bell), and other notable mistakes.

The problem is, there are writers who will avoid stats like the plague. I remember a column by Phil Rogers (Chicago writer) on ESPN.com a couple of months ago, where he said he didn't look at all stats because he was "too busy watching the games." It's like an unhealty aversion to just looking at the numbers.

KSig RC 11-21-2006 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1360984)
Yeah, I forgot the NL voting, although I thought Hoffman got too many votes...overall pretty good though.

This MVP voting was, possibly, the worst I've seen though. Just horrible, right on line with the 1987 results (Andre Dawson and George Bell), and other notable mistakes.

The problem is, there are writers who will avoid stats like the plague. I remember a column by Phil Rogers (Chicago writer) on ESPN.com a couple of months ago, where he said he didn't look at all stats because he was "too busy watching the games." It's like an unhealty aversion to just looking at the numbers.

Yeah, exactly - I think Keith Law said it best:

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Incidentally, the following voters should be removed from the voting process permanently:

• The guy who put Jeter sixth.
• The guy who put Mauer 10th ... and the five guys who left him off their ballots entirely.
• The three guys who put Frank Thomas second.
• The guy who put A.J. Pierzynski 10th.
So so so so so so so so so so so so so silly. One of the worst MVP votes ever, wow.

Thrillhouse 11-21-2006 11:40 PM

Horrible vote.

Although I don't think Dye should have won it... he deserves it more than Morneau.

Someone obviously thought they were funny by putting Pierzinski 10th but why not name an obscure player like Hiram Bocachica 10th instead? That what I wouldv'e done.

Thrillhouse 11-22-2006 02:23 AM

Heres the voting breakdown for the AL MVP:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseba...ny-main-bigpix

It figures that a Chicago voter would have AJ 10th.

KSigkid 11-22-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrillhouse (Post 1361261)
Horrible vote.

Although I don't think Dye should have won it... he deserves it more than Morneau.

Someone obviously thought they were funny by putting Pierzinski 10th but why not name an obscure player like Hiram Bocachica 10th instead? That what I wouldv'e done.

I honestly think that's part of the problem; writers are wasting votes on hometown guys, when it can really hurt in close races. That, and there is just a stubborn disregard for numbers from some writers. Honestly, that's what the numbers are kept for, and we have so many types of stats to look at, it's ridiculous that guys just ignore that stuff.

Even without that though - wouldn't it be common sense that a catcher with good defensive stats and excellent hitting stats would be more valuable than a mediocre first baseman with good hitting stats? Don't give the award to Jeter, fine, but Mauer's finish in the voting bothers me more.

Thrillhouse 11-22-2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1361339)
I honestly think that's part of the problem; writers are wasting votes on hometown guys, when it can really hurt in close races. That, and there is just a stubborn disregard for numbers from some writers. Honestly, that's what the numbers are kept for, and we have so many types of stats to look at, it's ridiculous that guys just ignore that stuff.

Even without that though - wouldn't it be common sense that a catcher with good defensive stats and excellent hitting stats would be more valuable than a mediocre first baseman with good hitting stats? Don't give the award to Jeter, fine, but Mauer's finish in the voting bothers me more.

Exactly. A catcher who can put up huge numbers like Mauer did deserved it if it went the Minnesota route.

KSigkid 11-23-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrillhouse (Post 1361601)
Exactly. A catcher who can put up huge numbers like Mauer did deserved it if it went the Minnesota route.

The sad thing is, you, KSigRC and I would be better voters than about 90% of the guys out there.

KSigkid 11-28-2006 08:56 AM

If the Sox are going to trade Manny, and then sign J.D. Drew, they'd better not use a "character" argument to justify trading Manny.

mu_agd 11-28-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1363264)
If the Sox are going to trade Manny, and then sign J.D. Drew, they'd better not use a "character" argument to justify trading Manny.

If they do trade Manny and sign JD Drew, does this mean we are going to see lots of intentional walks to Ortiz?

KSig RC 11-28-2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1363264)
If the Sox are going to trade Manny, and then sign J.D. Drew, they'd better not use a "character" argument to justify trading Manny.

You know damn well they don't care at all about Manny's "character" - but this is probably their last opportunity to 'sell high' on Manny, so of course they'll explore . . . he has more value right now than at any point since the moment they signed him, because his contract suddenly went from "bizarrely bad" to "bizarrely underpaid" in a matter of seconds.

If they can replace 90% of his production at multiple positions, and also get some decent upper-level position talent in the farm (nobody but Ellsbury really matters, now that Pedroia has graduated), they almost have to make the deal, don't they?

Remember, they add anywhere from 6-8 WARP in projected value the minute they sign Matsuzaka-san . . . and he replaces 12 starts from Kyle Snyder, 10 from Jason Johnson, etc etc etc etc. As long as the drop-off from Manny's annual 8-WARP season to some combination of Drew, Pena, whoever covers their inevitable injuries, and Crisp not sucking ass with a broken hand is less than the advance in the rest of the team (staff, SS, probably 1B), anything else is gravy, right?

That said, unless the Dodgers get freaky as hell with some combo of Billingsley, Loney, Broxton, and Kemp, I'm not really sure where the value can come from - so few teams have upper-level talent ready to deal anymore . . .


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