Julian McMahon
Hugh Laurie

Thanks for the link!

It sounds like the coffee menu at Starbucks. :(

Totally agree

^^^^^I agree. As for myself, I take what I can get. :D

^^^^^ too fly to settle

I think its a matter of choice; love is colorblind I do believe, On one occasion during the Thanksgiving holidays when I was younger I recall my cousin bringing a white woman over to our family's house for dinner. My dad at the time was cordial and she seemed to fit right in with the family and even ate chitlins with us. Afterward, my Dad did say that he would not take too kindly to us marrying outside our race.

This is so true. My husband (who's from Ghana) and I used to bump heads all the time when we first got married because of our perceived differences but we've since gotten over that. Now we embrace our likenesses and we can't believe how very alike we are despite our different upbringing. As for his family, they embraced me right away and have never had a problem with me being American although they did warn my husband that they would not be happy if he married a White woman, no matter where she was from.

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I agree. I don't like interacial relationships either. I would never get serious with a white woman. I would just hit it and quit it.

Are you white? Or black?

I'm a black dude. The reason why I couldn't get serious with a white woman, is because of the way it looks, especially in public. I would be ashamed of her. If she was tanned then maybe I would be partial to it, but if she was pale or red/pink, there's no way.

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Wow! So would you be ashamed of her only because she was pale or is it because you would be ashamed of the way people would react to you being black and her being a pale white woman? And why would you be partial to it if she were tanned? is it because she would look like she was a person of color eventhough she wasnt? So its okay as long as it "looks right"?

Im just having a hard time grasping this.

To the topic(s) at hand:
1. I've never dated outside of my race because i've never found a white or other guy attractive (as in someone i know not some celebs because there are definitely some guys of other races that make me wanna live in TV land) enough to hold my interest. Also it is really hard for any person who is not black to understand the complexity that is my blackness. Being black is so multifacited that only living in this black skin could allow you to understand and even then there is still so much that is not understood. For example to some black people (like myself) being a part of the political process is absolutely necessary to change the way that blacks are treated and viewed in america. While to other black people the political process is nothing more than a ploy to keep the black mind occupied on things that are not conducive to increasing black people's awareness and development. Although these are two very different opinions they are both very black and only a black person would be able understand and appreciate these things without me spending decades (or any amount of time) teaching them about them.
2. The interracial thing is only bothersome when it is done out of ignorance or spite or for reasons other than love. Personally i dont agree with ANY relationship regardless of race that is embarked upon for the wrong reasons.

It looks bad tanned or pale. I'm just sayin' that tanned white girls are more pleasing to look at than pale or red ones. But even they don't compare to black women. It especially looks bad when a black dude dates a white girl. Why? Because it makes him look weak to me. What's wrong with a strong sistah? I think a lot of black dudes who go out with white girls can't handle a sistah. Either that, or they believe in the stereotype of the "attitude" thing that black women are plagued with. Everyone has an attitude, it doesn't matter what color she/he is. If a black woman is with a white dude, it looks bad but not as bad, because some black women choose white dudes because they can't find a decent black dude. I just have strong views on it. Black dudes who court white girls are sell outs.

Oh yeah, I want to say one more thing. If a black women is with a white dude, he either has money or she hasn't had any luck with a black dude. There's no excuse for a black dude to be with a white girl though, because there are too many fine single sistahs out there who want a good black dude.

http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedi...rt2/index.html

interesting article (and videos) on Blackness and race relations in the Latino community, this could serve for a reason folks prefer one racial group over another.

In a mess up kind of way, this part of the article TW posted made me chuckle. If someone is ever confused about what they are, leave it to the USA to let you know (even though we don't know ish - SMH):p

But in general, that article made me sad. Wow.

About 2 years ago, there was a similar issue in Argentina who say there are no Black people in their country. Everyone knows that is untrue, but, that is the reality of things...

Right on! I couldn't agree more since love and spiritual/social/physical/mental/emotional compatibility have nothing to do with what makes for a solid relationship/marriage.

I agree with Ronnie B to a certain extent. It does look bad/odd TO ME when I see a black man with a white woman, simply because so many black men who date white women will date them exclusively and parade them around like they are some sort of prize. I'm not down with that. However, because I come from a family that has had many interracial couplings, and as a person who is open to dating non-black men, I know that true love knows no color and I try to give those in interracial (specifically black men with other) relationships the benefit of the doubt.

what are you cosigning to? his comment on black men who date white women are weak?

:confused:

I think she was being sarcastic.

What's confusing about what lovehaiku typed?

I disagree with those statements. If a Black Man only sees Black women as lazy, loud, ignorant and ghetto, a white girl can have him! What kinda Black Men are you meeting? If that is how some black women wanna carry themselves, of course they're gonna go through that, or find a black man who's standards of living are equally as low. If you carry yourself respectably, and be a LADY, you'll find a good Black Man. HOWEVER I have been told that interracial dating is a "cultural thing". Some black men from down south and out west enjoy the company of white women. I'm not gonna say that it doesn't happen up here (in New York) but I don't see it very often. Here, Black Men LOVE BLACK WOMEN!

By "cultural" you mean regional cultures.

Some black men all over the country enjoy the company of white women and black men all over the country LOVE BLACK WOMEN! :) I do not have the regional statistics on regional interracial dating and marriage. But people's opinions on black men-white women isn't based on its real prevalence. It is based on its appearance and how visible it is in a particular area.

Although you may not see a whole lot of black men-white women couples walking around certain parts of NYC, you do see black men and nonAfrican diasporic women (i.e. Latina women who are not considered "Afro-Latina, Armenian, etc.).

I didn't understand what she meant by black guys parading white women around like prizes. What if he really likes her? I don't get it.

i parade my ivory princess around all the time.

That poster was saying that some black men do see white women as prizes so on first appearance she is apprehensive about interracial couples.

But the poster also said that she gives these couples the benefit of the doubt beyond that because she knows that a lot of people really do find love "in the swirl." :p

I know black men who have put white women on a pedastol and said things like "white women aren't bossy," "white women are submissive," "I advance my career with white women." Just like I have had white men approach me on some "I've always been curious about black women...nubian princess...give me that sassy black women stuff...." and they totally made me feel like they were anticipating some slave massa and slave mistress action. :rolleyes:

@ DSTCHAOS - You are spot on with regards to what I meant. Thanks for helping to clear that up.

When you see a black guy with a white woman, how do you know if he's parading her around like a prize or if he really likes her? Do you just make an assumption?

You guys and your status symbols. *SMH*

Wait. People have actually said that to you? I know they have thought that about me, but no one has ever said it so bluntly. One reason why I have difficulty with the idea of dating white men is that I don't want to be anybody's "exotic".

@Cheerfulgreek

I don't know, which is why I try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I have no idea whether the man is parading her around like a prize or not, so I make an effort not to pass judgment.

I haven't the foggiest, and therefore I make no assumptions about his reason for being with her.



That said, I do WONDER/QUESTION if it is like/love, or if it's something else.

how do you think i make in corporate america? i have to bring something to company functions to make the white male power structure more at ease.

i thought we were never going to talk about that again.

^^^ race traitor

He only parades white women around at parades.


Oh yeah...that's what I get for trying to be friendly sometimes. :p I'm not used to being places where white men are pursuing black women. So I don't automatically act standoffish like I do with black men who I don't want to be bothered with.

Friendly white people + friendly black people + maybe some drinks at a nonthreatening/unassuming (noncolleague) social gathering = usually some interesting comments.

How do you know they have thought that about you? They told someone else?

what are you talking about? i love scandinavian women.

Ha!

No, it is more the subtext of some of the other things that they say, and this is without the benefits of alcohol.

I've witnessed this mess myself as well. Men who think like this aren't really going to be much good for any woman, so it's not really a loss. On that bossy thing though...I hate to burst anyone's bubble but I am one bossy, unsubmissive-bordering-on-aggressive and fearless white binch.

ETA: AND I'm the breadwinner of my family as well as handling all things related to finance, budgeting and investing. Try me. :p

o.k. so you give them the benefit of the doubt, but the question I have for you is, why would a black guy think because he's with a white woman he has a prize?:confused: It just doesn't make any sense to me. Shouldn't he think he has a prize anyway, regardless of what race she is? You just make it sound like if he's with a black woman, he doesn't have a prize, but if he's with a white woman he does. Another question I have for you is, why don't you see a man as man and a woman as a woman? Why the black man/white woman thing?

I've also noticed that when I see a black woman with a white guy, I don't see many stares and snares if any at all. When a black guy is with a white woman though, black women seem to get really mad. I see it all the time. I don't know what the big deal is.